Secret of Prometheus

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by zioburosky13, Apr 11, 2012.

  1. zioburosky13

    zioburosky13 Vault Senior Citizen

    Jun 24, 2004
    There is an upcoming sci-fi movie, directed by Ridley Scott, which is said to shared the same DNA with 'Alien' the movie. You know the little bugger than crawls into your throat, mature and burst from your chest? :)

    Well, there is a sneak peek of 12 minutes of footage from the movie and some things have been clarify.

    Major Spoilers

    I am too excited now. :ugly:
     
  2. Joelzania

    Joelzania Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Oct 12, 2011
    I'm confused. Are there going to be Xenomorphs?
     
  3. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    lets hope not ... the less connections it actually has to xenomorphs the less they can fuck up. Really. Prequel? Fuck that! The Alien franchise has been screwed to many times that I stay "calm" and in "hope".

    A good Sci Fi movie? I hope it will be. At least he isn't doing everything in CGI compared to someone else we know (YES I TALK WITH YOU LUCAS-DO-ALL-IN-CGI-CRAP-SW-MOVIE-MAKER!).

    anyway. Enough ramblings. I really REALLY hope they don't go on this bandwagon of "solving" all mysteries. Particularly around the aliens or the space jockeys. No movie ever established any real connection between those and the xenomorphs, the books give a bit more informations but they describe them as scientists, explorers which had the misfortune to stumble over the xenomorphs and out of curiousity picked some up.

    AvP really does not count as its crap basically. Those AvP movies did more damage then I don't know ... only a Star Wars vs Aliens vs Predators could do more damage. Yes with a chest bursting scene including Han and Chewbaca fighting a Predator over meat.

    I think answers are nice. But actually that the xenomorphs have so many mysteries and the movies as whole gives them actually this great ambience. So I hope they don't come up with things like bio-engineered by Jockeys as weapons or anything like that. Maybe its just me but that would totally ruin it for me.
     
  4. Gonzalez

    Gonzalez Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2004
    I don't know. Personally I like to pretend that there are no more movies on the franchise other than "Alien" and "Aliens". "Alien 3"'s beginning was a total insult to "Aliens" ending, and tho is not terrible it doesn't hold out to the other two. From then on it just kept getting worse. Alien resurrection made me puke, it was the final insult, and the others, well, to varying degrees they're, especially some of them, terrible movies, the one with aliens on earth reaching B class horror movie levels of shittiness.

    But with Ridley Scott, the original creator of "Alien" and who has brought us some really good movies in the past, such as "Blade Runner", I'm hoping this would finally be a redemption to the butchering of the franchise.

    If I'm wrong then nothing happens, just another disappointment, the franchise cannot go any lower from where it already is. If not, then it will be wonderful to see the franchise redeemed.
     
  5. UniversalWolf

    UniversalWolf eaten by a grue.

    Aug 28, 2005
    True. Not much left to lose at this point.
     
  6. Mad Max RW

    Mad Max RW Mildly Dipped

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    Jan 12, 2004
    It sounds like they're aiming for a PG-13 rating, as well. Apologists are making the argument "but PG-13 today can be pushed much further than derp derp derpa derp crap out of my mouth". The fact is if the original Alien was done as anything less than R they'd have to cut the entire chestburster scene. That's one of the most iconic scenes in movie history and could have been lost if maximizing ticket sales was Ridley Scott's top priority.
     
  7. 34thcell

    34thcell Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Sep 22, 2008
    This isn't Alien. The fear of alien rape probably won't play such a large part of the horror (at least not in the same way). And if you take away that scene then there's not a whole lot of splatter.
     
  8. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    first, alien was not about the splatter or the creature even though many think that. The alien is no actor. Its just part of the movie. The actors really made the difference here which gave the whole situation a very realistic look. And that is what made the "horror" of Alien so intense. The same was true for Alien 2. To go with one example. The beginning of the movie was the last filmed scene on the set. The intention was to give the crew time to get to know each other and thus give a much more realistic acting on the friendship which you would see in a group. And it works very well. Cameron also allowed every actor to work on his armor to customize it the way he want it to look like.

    The creature for it self is very fascinating of course. But as seen with AvP and AvP2 even the best creature design can not make out of a "crap" movie suddenly a "good" one if you don't have the actors. With Predator it have been the over the top elite soldiers of which all have been really great actors. Not just Schwarzenegger but his crew as whole.

    Its sad that many see today only either the "Alien" or the "Predator" and forget about everything else thinking this is the whole thing. Just as like Star Wars is only about lightsabers and throwing people around with the force. I mean yeah. Ever heard those things are just the icing on the cake? I hope Prometheus will contain not just some kind of creature or "horror" effects but good acting.
     
  9. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Meh I don't mind this theory myself, the xenomorphs being a type of weapon or 'planet forming' organism the Jockeys send in to cleanse and prepare planets for colonization.

    A while ago I read an article somewhere from a fan who looked at it from a biologist point of view and pointed out several reasons why the creature is more likely to have artificial origins than a natural one.
     
  10. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    yeah, I know what you mean. But thats the part I am talking about. Explain it and it is loosing its "mystery". The fact that even after so many years people still talk about it what they could be is what makes it so interesting. Artificial or not? Weapons or not? Gives much room to interpretation and speculation. And yet. It always is a mystery. As soon something is "explained" to you and you don't have to think anymore its loosing a bit of its appeal and fascination. But that is my opinion.
     
  11. Mad Max RW

    Mad Max RW Mildly Dipped

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    Jan 12, 2004
    Well duh. I was using that as an example, but obviously you missed the point. Cutting Prometheus for a PG-13 rating means they are sacrificing *something* in the process. If Alien was cut today for PG-13 one of the most memorable scenes in the past 100 years of film would never have been allowed in theaters. Now imagine the equivalent being lost because all they want is to sell a few more tickets to sniveling teenagers. Fans of Ridley Scott, the Alien series, scifi, horror, and movies in general are being robbed. Ultimately it's gonna bite the studio in the ass because more people will just wait for the DVD. Then you can kiss goodbye the revival of one of the best franchises ever and expect more half assed shit like AvP and Predators. I figured more people on this forum would understand that.
     
  12. Gonzalez

    Gonzalez Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2004
    Just saw this. Found out about it from a tweet by Josh Sawyer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOOJl5lWNfM&feature=youtu.be

    If they're going for this kind of focus then I think they're going in the right direction, rescuing things that made the first two Alien movies good, like the unscrupulous corporation doing shady things.
     
  13. Mad Max RW

    Mad Max RW Mildly Dipped

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    Jan 12, 2004
    So Prometheus is spreading around the world like a cancer and based on viewer reactions it sounds equally as painful. Not going to waste a dollar on this mess.
     
  14. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    well the acting certainly seems good. So I am watching this in cinema for sure. I like that viral-trailer.

    Also:

     
  15. The Dutch Ghost

    The Dutch Ghost Grouchy old man of NMA Moderator

    Jan 11, 2004
    Unfortunate its not a very good movie and not in the sense of "the audience doesn't understand it and therefore rate it low" good.

    Compared to Alien the story isn't that well set up and some transitions between the various scenes are weird like the stuff that happens when [spoiler:8b582ab90c]Shaw leaves that medical pod after the removal of the octopus thing[/spoiler:8b582ab90c].
     
  16. mobucks

    mobucks i get such a kick out of myself Orderite

    May 22, 2010
    Dude that actor playing the android is a great actor and that trailer (only one I'll watch) really set a tone I can get into. I can't wait! Alien(s) are like my 2 favorite movies of all time. I could really give a shit about continuity or versimilitude whaterver that is as long as it has amazing non-cgi sets and sexy xenos IM DOWN! The first movies have always been an asthetic treat! So I am optimistic for more of that. As long as the CGI is not overdone. Im drunk.
     
  17. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    yeah but to be honest the plot in Alien and Aliens was superb as well. If it really is THAT inconvenient like some say here ... then I am a bit worried about Prometheus. Still I am going to watch it in the cinema.
     
  18. Gonzalez

    Gonzalez Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Aug 21, 2004
    I don't know, the name of Ridley Scott alone, being back after so long, since the first movie. At least I have to give it a try. What I fear the worse is building up expectation and then being disappointed I guess. Like I've said, if it sucks, then it wouldn't be the first time I waste time in a bad movie. And if I get really disappointed then I'll have plenty of time to rant about it after i see it.
     
  19. Mad Max RW

    Mad Max RW Mildly Dipped

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    Jan 12, 2004
    The whole ending just leaked online and good god almighty... It's like a cutesy version of the suit from MDK with a dolphin mouth. I'm beginning to think Ridley Scott is trolling the world with this bullshit.
     
  20. TorontoReign

    TorontoReign Non Binary Pod Person Staff Member Moderator

    Apr 1, 2005
    So I am hearing mixed reviews so far. If what Dutch Ghost said is true then that is too bad. Not a big surprise though. With Ridley Scott being attached to this it was bound to fail to meet expectations.