Special Edition dev diary & Survival Edition announced

Wait a minute, $50 bucks for the whole thing right? Not $50 bucks for the clock plus the rest of the stuff? If it's the latter....
 
MrBumble said:
Am I the only one who thinks this clock looks great ?
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Nah, it's cool. I might buy it if it was like 10 bucks and didn't come with Fallout 3.

The naming is pretty stupid, though. This Survival Edition is basically the Collector's Edition with the CE being a Special Edition.

Seriously, got their wires crossed there.

Plissken said:
Wait a minute, $50 bucks for the whole thing right? Not $50 bucks for the clock plus the rest of the stuff? If it's the latter....
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119 bucks for the whole thing. (I think. Amazon seems to be down)

Which would be CE (= 70 bucks) + clock (=50 bucks)
 
I cancelled my Gamestop pre-order to pre-order this from Amazon. The clock is cool enough (for me) to pay the difference.

I'm not a big fan of the bobblehead, but the lunchbox and the clock are very nifty keen.
 
MrBumble said:
Am I the only one who thinks this clock looks great ?
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I also like the clock, I prefer it to my current alarm clock. But I don't think it's worth the money!

What I think, is that with the CE and this Survival Edition, Bethesda is trying to squeeze, from Fallout 3, as much money as they can, before the game is even finished.

I would like to own all this junk they are trying to sell, so in 10 years I could say: Hey! I own a "real" Pip-Boy 3000.
But what I really, really want to able to say in 10 years is: Hey! I own a copy of that great RPG Fallout 3. It's as good as Fallout and Fallout 2.

But that, I'm afraid wont be happening...
 
I just hate the fact that they do not even try to hide the agressivity of their marketing : the game was not even shown to the public yet but we already have two collector editions, pre-orders and exclusive goodies for pre-orders...How Bethesda...
 
real marketing should include releasing a gameplay demo that doesn't completely suck, prior to "finishing" the game or at least a few gameplay videos that aren't completely staged and scripted.

Games that are going to be good, should be able to withstand open beta testing without creating massive negative feedback from the gaming public.

I've been convinced for some time now that Bethesda doesn't release betas/demos/vids for the fans to try out because either:

they are so stuck up that they think we have no good suggestions/changes to offer.
(which they have no right to be, considering the experience of their staff)

or because they know the game isn't what they're saying it is and they don't want to generate a huge mass of pre-release negativity on the web to counter their aggressive overhyping.

So far all they are doing is hyping (read: lying)and concealing.

That's not marketing.


BTW, the clock looks cool, but I'd rather it had a stamped metal case and a power cord on it, instead of being a cheap battery powered clock in a plastic pipboy shaped case with decals on it.
 
whirlingdervish said:
BTW, the clock looks cool, but I'd rather it had a stamped metal case and a power cord on it, instead of being a cheap battery powered clock in a plastic pipboy shaped case with decals on it.
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I understand this is a custom-made gizmo with a niche target market, but 50 dollars, especially in addition to cost of the standard SE, is still real steep. I'm fine with it being a simple LED display, anything more fancy would make it overly expensive, but they managed to achieve that anyway.
I wonder who they're counting on buying the thing, sets like these are usually bought only by the staunchest of longterm fans, whilst I think Bethesda has managed to alienate most of that base. I mean its cool thing either way, but I'm not gonna get it because of the other main component. If this were an "original" sequel, on the other hand, I'd easily cough up another 10 bucks for this edition.
 
MrBumble said:
I just hate the fact that they do not even try to hide the agressivity of their marketing : the game was not even shown to the public yet but we already have two collector editions, pre-orders and exclusive goodies for pre-orders...How Bethesda...
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I think that's par for the course nowadays with these sorts of AAA titles. The hype machines are completely out of control.

Look at Metal Gear Solid 4 - it's being bundled with two different PS3s, comes in several different collector's edition packages and the game is chock full of product placement - everything from iPods to cellphones to energy drinks.

(I'm still buying and enjoying the hell out of MGS4, btw)
 
Do want... if I have any money leftover after buying the Metal Gear Solid 4 and Soulcalibur IV collectors editions. I may cancel my preorder on the latter if Yoda is anywhere near as broken as I expect/fear him to be.
 
whirlingdervish said:
real marketing should include releasing a gameplay demo that doesn't completely suck, prior to "finishing" the game or at least a few gameplay videos that aren't completely staged and scripted.

Games that are going to be good, should be able to withstand open beta testing without creating massive negative feedback from the gaming public.
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I think there was an interview a while back where Pete Hines or Emil said that they wouldn't release a demo because the large open world was so intricate to the gameplay that they wouldn't be able to pare the game down into a demo without the player losing a sense of what the game is like.

I don't agree with that, but considering how many players admit to spending the majority of their time just wandering around in Oblivion/Morrowind, it's hard to not grant them that point even if it is only due to how poorly implemented the combat, stealth, AI, and quests are. Let's face it Oblivion is a first person wandering game. A single town + dungeon would not be able to hold up to scrutiny as a demo because it would leave out the core gameplay - wandering.
 
It's a nice idea, but I don't think it's enough to justify shelling out another few bob for it.
Again, a flask would've have been a cool collector's item (or anything to keep whiskey in for that matter).
Since i'm a magpie for collector's editions of anything though (usually music: digipaks and rare vinyls especially) i'll probably fork out for the special edition.
 
They're neat, although you've gotta be somekinda asshole to pay $130 for that shit. I can buy a much better alarm clock radio with actual features from Walmart for less than $8. If they took the time to fit in a working am/fm radio, an alarm with a few different settings, snooze button, and a couple other basic things all cheap radio clocks have, I'd consider shelling $20 for one if it wasn't a terrible molded plastic like it probably is. Remember, they're charging $50 for just a clock.

The flask is a kickass idea.
 
What's the point of getting all this cheap plastic crap when the rael meat (the game) is another piece-of-shit cheap ass rip-off of the original concept :ugly:
 
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