Astiaks said:
That's why we switch to Bagels.
Starcraft 2 - It is out there
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That's why we switch to Bagels.
UncannyGarlic
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Depending on how much they charge for their expansions, I agree. I was talking in terms of them encouraging regular map makers to charge for maps (or Blizzard to release premium maps/map packs), thus decreasing the value of their product. I might be being a bit gloom and doom about it as it really all depends on the map makers and how easy it is to charge for your map, it very well may end up being like most other games were almost every mod is free.pkt-zer0 said:
WoW has made me a lot more skeptical of Blizzard as they really charge out the ass for it. They went with the EverQuest model of sales, charging for the bigger new content updates (expansions) and the base game instead of strictly a monthly fee (which is comparatively high, especially when you factor in the size of the userbase). They also (used to) charge for some small things like transferring your character from one server to another (which is nickle and diming in my book). After that, talk of an iPhone app store is extremely discouraging as that is all about encouraging charging for mediocrity so that Apple to cash in big time. Not that I'm against a developer making a full game using the SDK and charging for it and it really comes down to how they deal with the marketplace.
The thing with them releasing the game in three parts is... isn't the first part, with just the Terran campaign, supposed to be as big, if not bigger, than the first game with all three campaigns? If so, I'm not sure why you would consider that you're getting less for your money somehow.
Though, unless they include some really huge engine/graphic/whatever improvements in the other two releases, I hope they don't charge full price for simply another chapter in the single-player campaign and some probably minor changes/additions to the multiplayer.
Though, unless they include some really huge engine/graphic/whatever improvements in the other two releases, I hope they don't charge full price for simply another chapter in the single-player campaign and some probably minor changes/additions to the multiplayer.
sydney_roo
Still Mildly Glowing
If the other 2 releases contain only additional single-player content I will settle on buying only the first as I will only play via Battle.net or LAN.
Alphadrop
A right proper chap.
Well if they add anything new I would buy them but I only really play the Terran campaign(s) in SC anyway. 
Hoxie said:
But how will you stop an enemy that cannot be hit due to having a massive hole in it's middle?
It's at least very easy to burn rice.
Don't feel bad, so are most of us.Black said:I play terran and am terible- copper league
I actually look forward to the single player campaigns.sydney_roo said:
It allows for slower play with more fortressing, usually. The online games are a bit quick for me (at least the ones against skilled players).
UncannyGarlic
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Each campaign is supposed to be something like 26-30 missions, so as big as SC and Broodwar. I'd say that no more than $30 for the expansions is a reasonable price as they already have the engine and tools done with the first game and the majority of the new content is the singleplayer campaign. My concern is them price gouging like they do with WoW (which uses the Everquest model).Kyuu said:
Judging from their past games, they'll most likely have a few new units and new terrain.sydney_roo said:
UncannyGarlic said:
They will do that for sure. They can't ensure themselves any other way of "forcing" the multiplayer enthusiasts to get the expansions that isn't adding new units. Finding a single SC game is rare, you'll most likely find a Broodwar game online.
Added you.Black said:If someone is in the beta and would like a spar buddy- scrubwave.scrubwave.
I play terran and am terible- copper league
I'm Moof.planhex if someone wants to kick my ass.
Mutoes
Mildly Dipped
Region lock and more so the no lan thing do irritate me but i dont really care for the public chat rooms, even if i dont really play much multiplayer games they in my experience are just filled with nonsense and cursing/spam. But honestly i wouldnt really care if there was chat rooms, i dont get whats the harm of having them when one can just not go in to them. IIRC blizzard made the argument that that was the reason there is no chat rooms (spam and other nonsense talk)
But to answer the question if im still buying it: Yes im still buying the game, beta convinced that the actual gameplay is good enough to justify those flaws.
But to answer the question if im still buying it: Yes im still buying the game, beta convinced that the actual gameplay is good enough to justify those flaws.
UncannyGarlic
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Do you have a link to the announcement (I want to see what they have to say)?
The region lock is a mixed bag and it really depends on how they do it. Honestly, I'm all for region locking the South American version of the game (too many obnoxious Brazilians) but I'm not so cool with region locking everywhere. Depend on whether it detects the region and locks it or whether the software is written to only include regions in each region's copy (so the NTSC copy has only US WEST and US EAST), it'll either be pretty easy to fool, or quite hard to do. I get that they want to try to optimize the experience for everyone but it seems kinda pointless. As I said elsewhere though, it wouldn't be as big of a deal if they left in TCP/IP, IPX.
Removing the chat makes no sense to me, I rarely used it but it was convenient at times and very convenient for clans I'd imagine. Removing it just plain doesn't make sense to me, I mean it takes less work to not reimplemented it but it only improves the experience... That said, removing it makes B.Net more like other multiplayer services so that may have been their logic, removing it did nothing to make them worse than other services.
No LAN remains the biggest problem if you ask me.
The region lock is a mixed bag and it really depends on how they do it. Honestly, I'm all for region locking the South American version of the game (too many obnoxious Brazilians) but I'm not so cool with region locking everywhere. Depend on whether it detects the region and locks it or whether the software is written to only include regions in each region's copy (so the NTSC copy has only US WEST and US EAST), it'll either be pretty easy to fool, or quite hard to do. I get that they want to try to optimize the experience for everyone but it seems kinda pointless. As I said elsewhere though, it wouldn't be as big of a deal if they left in TCP/IP, IPX.
Removing the chat makes no sense to me, I rarely used it but it was convenient at times and very convenient for clans I'd imagine. Removing it just plain doesn't make sense to me, I mean it takes less work to not reimplemented it but it only improves the experience... That said, removing it makes B.Net more like other multiplayer services so that may have been their logic, removing it did nothing to make them worse than other services.
No LAN remains the biggest problem if you ask me.
TheWesDude
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
el_jefe_of_ny said:
yes, i deny SC2 with an azn chick as my avatar. she is an actress.
i have played a fair # of RTSes in my time. always wanted to try the original and the re-release of the dune RTSes.
as to the longevity, that is simply not true. there are RTSes that are still played online that were released before starcrap.
i played one not too long ago.
no, i did not and do not like starcrap 1.
and it appears by everything i have seen all this is, is an engine and graphic upgrade and it plays if not exactly then almost exactly like the first one.
means that i wont like starcrap 2 either.
Guiltyofbeingtrite
Vault Dweller
TheWesDude said:
Just don't get Dune 2000.
Mutoes
Mildly Dipped
UncannyGarlic said:
No i dont,
, got this impression from the beta forums and TL which had both discussion about how easily spam could be countered by blizz and how lame excuse this is. But after trying to find actual announcements i couldnt find any reasons provided by blizzard.