The Guns and Ammo Thread

WillisPDunlevey said:
Smaller shot will do just as good inside of a house and wont over penetrate (if you are worried you may miss)

Just playing around, I have seen the plastic wadding and shot holders pass clean through hollow core doors and dry wall.
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Well, depends on the walls he has. Here in eurolandia, we mostly have solid brick walls. So 00 buck would do fine here.
 
SuAside said:
Well, depends on the walls he has. Here in eurolandia, we mostly have solid brick walls. So 00 buck would do fine here.
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American walls are too thin... we could never have a Stalingrad here :(

There was a guy here shot with #12 (im guessing the round was old or hand loaded as #12 is not that common)

The x-ray was especially nasty. It looked like a negative of a photograph of the night sky.
 
WillisPDunlevey said:
Its a fairly uncommon shotgun in the USA as well.
Most of them were turned into Short Barrel Shotguns (NFA tax stamp required) in the late 1990s because they would hold 6 rounds rather than the 3 of Surbu body guard shotguns and would fit under someones jacket. (this was before Tromix and RJF started playing around with Saiga 12s

The 81 works fine. I have never had any problems with it.
I added a ventilated barrel shroud to it.
Other than the added shroud, its stock and has the shorter barrel 20" IIRC (I have not measured it in14-15 years)
The only problem with it is that the 5rd magazines are $100~150 plus each and are not imported.

Also since the shotgun is a pump action and based on a tube fed pump, the follower for the magazine acts like the lift mechanism from the pump, so I cant just modify Saiga mags to work in it. I have to have new followers made to fit the saiga mags and then modify the mags to lock up in the 81.

SuAside said:
I presume you mean the IZH-81KM if you say 5 shell magazines? That's a fairly uncommon shotgun (at least here). How do you like it?
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pics or it never happened
 
WillisPDunlevey said:
DammitBoy said:
pics or it never happened
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You are going to call me on this... after I produced images of my STEN MKIII pistol and my .45ACP caliber SKS?

Ill get some when I get home.

Want pix of my Spencer as well?
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It's a picture thread of people showing their guns willis! Post pictures of said guns you tard! :crazy:
 
DevilTakeMe said:
WillisPDunlevey said:
American walls are too thin... we could never have a Stalingrad here :(
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Demo vid of various loads being put through "thin American walls." This one demonstrates a shotgun versus handgun rounds versus your house.
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Informative videos. :clap: I thought the .223 penetrates the walls easily.
 
Ok... here is the Baikal. To be extra nice, i put in some FO3 eye candy.

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Baikal + 5rd box mag

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#8 shot and two of 12 ball OO shot.

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Extra mag (I have 3 more mags still in the wrapper)

I also took a pic of my NIB polytech legend:

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Here is the finished .45ACP cal SKS:

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Last but not least, here is my Tantal.
As far as I know, it was the first Tantal in/built in the USA.
I got it off of the old AK.net in 08 of 2001. It was built on a Steyr Maadi receiver in 1999. The parts were imported by a guy who went to poland on a vacation/buying trip.

Yes I paid 3x what a Tantal costs now, but I had one 6 years or so before you could get them.

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Its registered as a .221 pistol in my state (its 1/4" too short when folded to be a rifle by state law... its fine according to fed law)

It would be legal to carry it around in a bag or something as a CCW carry gun.

That is a 50rd magazine made by Tony Chrisanti back in the late 90s. Its bakelite. I have a couple more of them. I think there were various models in 15, 20, 40, 45, 50, and 55rds made by his company.

the 15s and 20s were for states that would not allow larger mags.


I got tired of digging and gave up before i took pix of the spencer. Its just a run of the mill spencer that has been in the family since 1864.
 
That Bikal looks fantastic, just a quick question on it is the Bayonet one that's factory supplied? I know they issued them for the M1917 trench gun in WW1 but I didn't know they still made them for shotguns.

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I can see the sense in issuing a Bayonet for a shotgun as they are used at much closer ranges than a rifle.
 
That is the front mounting bracket for the ventilated barrel shroud... no bayonet lug.

THere are a number of shotguns with bayonet lugs (mossburg makes them for the 590 series)

Muff said:
That Bikal looks fantastic, just a quick question on it is the Bayonet one that's factory supplied? I know they issued them for the M1917 trench gun in WW1 but I didn't know they still made them for shotguns.

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I can see the sense in issuing a Bayonet for a shotgun as they are used at much closer ranges than a rifle.
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DammitBoy said:
WillisPDunlevey said:
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Thanks for posting pics. Tell me more about this sks.
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My new Fallout style gun:
.45 ACP SKS.
It is now blowback (not gas operated)
Uses 30rd Grease Gun Mags
Has new front and rear sights (usually sports a red dot)

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This SKS was converted to .45acp blowback after some bubba ruined the 7.62x39 barrel. The gas system was taken off, the lugs were milled off the bolt and the bolt was opened up to .45.
A new magazine locking mechanism was made to hold grease gun mags.
The front and rear sights are from a VZ-58 (they were extras lying around)
 
Reminds me of a beefed up Reising Gun. I know SKS is semi-auto but... did you make it full auto?
 
Mk gun mods can do it. Wild horse manufacturing came up with the mod... but I would not have them do one for me.

It is a great fix for bubbaed sks rifles (there are lots of messed up sks's out there)
 
WillisPDunlevey said:
Mk gun mods can do it. Wild horse manufacturing came up with the mod... but I would not have them do one for me.

It is a great fix for bubbaed sks rifles (there are lots of messed up sks's out there)
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MK gun mods - got a link? Or anything more specific?
 
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