The Guns and Ammo Thread

[SuAside]

i know a guy that refers to coyotes as "self-erecting targets".

and yeah, i hear the USA isn't very "south-paw friendly" when it comes to firearms, Phred. in Europe plenty of brands work towards ambidextrous design or offer lefty versions of their guns as well.

 

[Muff]

I am left handed but I am right eye dominant so couple that with British army rifle training and 3 years as a student gamekeeper shooting right handed is no problem for me, PhredBean can you tell me how that rifle handles I have been looking at one for fox control.

 

[SuAside]

the irony... i'm right handed, but left eye dominant.

 

[PhredBean]

the irony... i'm right handed, but left eye dominant.

As am I, hence why I shoot lefty for longarms.

Muff: I'd personally recommend it to anyone. Low recoil, extremely flat shooting, the Savage Arms accutrigger is nice, and the whole rifle seems very reliable so far.

I'm heading to the SLC gun show on the 29th, I'm likely just going to purchase more magazines for a number of my handguns and rifles in case the Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2007 passes.

 

[Smoke_Jaguar]

I'm heading to the SLC gun show on the 29th, I'm likely just going to purchase more magazines for a number of my handguns and rifles in case the Assault Weapons Ban and Law Enforcement Protection Act of 2007 passes.

How many rounds are in the highest pistol mag available to the public?

Also, how much does it cost for a "learn how to shoot" type course?

 

[SuAside]

the irony... i'm right handed, but left eye dominant.

As am I, hence why I shoot lefty for longarms.

yeah, it's a pain in the ass. probably why i'm not into longarms atm (but i suppose it doesn't help that the longest shootingrange in my neck of the woods is only 50m long, if i'd go for a rifle, i'd want to shoot a wee bit further. not doing milimeter work on 50m.).

How many rounds are in the highest pistol mag available to the public?

well, depends on how you view "mag". Glocks can take 33-ish round stick magazines and 50 round drums for instance.

but that isn't really regarded as normal magazines by shooters... but they are legal.

basically there is no answer to your question. i bet you can find a 500 round mag for some .22 homemade by some nutjob.

Also, how much does it cost for a "learn how to shoot" type course?

dont know how it works at the other side of the pound, but here, if you become member of a shooting club, they teach you the stuff and then you have to do a state required exam (which is mostly safety oriented, you don't really need to hit anything to pass). after that you become full member. if you want to learn stuff, you just need to ask the old guys at the club, the professional sport shooters, or the safety supervisor. (the stuff before the safety exam is included in the membership fee btw, no extra cost)

 

[Foul Ole Ron]

Muff: I'd personally recommend it to anyone. Low recoil, extremely flat shooting, the Savage Arms accutrigger is nice, and the whole rifle seems very reliable so far.

Had my brothers 22/250 and his 303 SMLE out at the range one day, just shooting at metal gongs @ 200 meters, the 303 was just smearing over the 1/2 inch plate using mark 7 ammo for the Bren Gun, but the 22/250 was punching right through.


me...

 

[Smoke_Jaguar]

well, depends on how you view "mag". Glocks can take 33-ish round stick magazines and 50 round drums for instance.

but that isn't really regarded as normal magazines by shooters... but they are legal.

basically there is no answer to your question. i bet you can find a 500 round mag for some .22 homemade by some nutjob.

By available to the public, I mean what's the highest pistol magazine (normal mags, not extented, modified, etc) that you can buy from a gun shop. It doesn't matter the handgun type, whatever pistol mag carries the most rounds, that was my question.

I still don't have my answer.

 

[SuAside]

jezus man, how the hell are we supposed to know that for sure?

"zomg! biggest magazine! *drool drool*"

no one that is actually serious about guns would care about that.

but, ok if i had to guess, i'd supposed the .22 Calico 'pistol' with 100 round tubular magazine probably wins.

 

[PhredBean]

By available to the public, I mean what's the highest pistol magazine (normal mags, not extented, modified, etc) that you can buy from a gun shop. It doesn't matter the handgun type, whatever pistol mag carries the most rounds, that was my question.

I still don't have my answer.

I think 18 is about as far as you'd get in a normal 9mm mag for certain handguns. I'm not sure for .22s, I've never looked. I just keep standard 10 round magazines for my Stoeger Luger-22.

Standard capacities you'll see, give or take 1-2, are: 8 rounds for .45acp, 12 rounds for .40s&w, and 15 for 9mm. With the assault weapon ban all magazines would be limited to 10 rounds, which is why I'm snatching up a few extra magazines for my two .40 cals, since the ban doesn't prohibit the ownership of magazines purchased before its institution.

 

[Thrawn]

well, depends on how you view "mag". Glocks can take 33-ish round stick magazines and 50 round drums for instance.

but that isn't really regarded as normal magazines by shooters... but they are legal.

basically there is no answer to your question. i bet you can find a 500 round mag for some .22 homemade by some nutjob.

By available to the public, I mean what's the highest pistol magazine (normal mags, not extented, modified, etc) that you can buy from a gun shop. It doesn't matter the handgun type, whatever pistol mag carries the most rounds, that was my question.

I still don't have my answer.

Testing my memory here but I believe my friends took the 30 round mag from a CSX Storm and put it in a Beretta 9mmSF. The clip wasn't made for the gun but it works.

I do not believe there are any limits on how big a magazine can be for target shooting. You only get 3 shots when you are hunting though (At least in Washington)

 

[DammitBoy]

Most pistols have magazines that range from 7 rounds to twenty rounds as factory issue.

A standard Colt 1911 holds seven rounds.

My HKVP70z holds 21 rounds.

Most aftermarket magazine manufacturers market extended clips up to around 30 rounds for most pistols.

Rifles usually come with 5 round mags to twenty round mags stock from the factory.

Aftermarket - you can easily get 30-50-100 round mags for rifles.

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There are some exceptions, like the Calico rifle/pistol previously mentioned. It came factory with either a 50 or 100 round magazine.

You can go to many sites to see the extensive variations available, but I would recommend cheaperthandirt.com to view a wide selection at one site.

 

[Smoke_Jaguar]

Yes, good answers all.

A standard Colt 1911 holds seven rounds.

I heard of a high capacity variant of the 1911A1 that used double stacked magazines. It quite eliminates the only drawback it had.

 

[SuAside]

double stack .45 means a thicker grip. which means some people cant handle it well.

 

[[PCE]el_Prez]

double stack .45 means a thicker grip. which means some people cant handle it well.

True. My friend has a kimber knock off double stack 1911. Even though I have no problem firing it accuarately it just doesn't feel right in my hand.

 

[Muff]

Some people have done some odd stuff to the 1911 over the years I have seen technical drawings to convert the 1911 into a SMG.

 

[Smoke_Jaguar]

Why bother? Gun manufactures make smgs and handguns that complement each other. If you have a P90 and a Five-seveN (yummy, 20 rounds), that's all you'll need. FN has outdone itself on that.

Plus if you just want an "smg handgun", Beretta ( 93R I think ) and Glock ( notably the 18 ) have good choices.

 

[DammitBoy]

Yes, good answers all.

A standard Colt 1911 holds seven rounds.

I heard of a high capacity variant of the 1911A1 that used double stacked magazines. It quite eliminates the only drawback it had.

The best is the para-ordinance p14 which holds 15 rounds of .45 - it's my regular carry firearm.

If you have a big hand, the grip is not a problem...

 

[Smoke_Jaguar]

The best is the para-ordinance p14 which holds 15 rounds of .45 - it's my regular carry firearm.

If you have a big hand, the grip is not a problem...

Canadian, right? They seem alright.

It works for you, you obviously like the classical pistol body and frame. I bet you like the colt socom and the grizzly.

I like this gun for being very reliable, and it's probably the reason you carry it. That and the 45.

I like more modern designs, I told you, I just love the Five-seveN. I've tried looking for something similar, but nothing is comparable. The viking is cool threatening weapon. It probably depends on what you do with them.

 

[DammitBoy]

I bet you like the colt socom and the grizzly.

I like more modern designs, I told you, I just love the Five-seveN. I've tried looking for something similar, but nothing is comparable. The viking is cool threatening weapon. It probably depends on what you do with them.

No, I don't like the colt socom or the grizzly. The FN is a very nice package.

I thought you were against gun ownership?