Wooz said:
Or in that case, grab a G36. Same caliber, better performance.
Plus, it's German. Win by definition.
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Or in that case, grab a G36. Same caliber, better performance.
Plus, it's German. Win by definition.
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Wooz, you Poles really took the whole "Invasion in 1939" thing hard didn't you? That rifle seems to have been born out of that mentality. Looks great.
And no, not skip the 47. The 74's round doesn't have the knockdown power i want to put on targets that are that close to me.
And no, not skip the 47. The 74's round doesn't have the knockdown power i want to put on targets that are that close to me.
that vid is full of shit. anyone with any experience with both guns will tell you that. if you cant tell the bullshit from the truth in the vid, just visit any decent online gun forum (THR, TFL,...) and read the topics about it.Dopemine Cleric said:
because the 74 has big trouble with heavy foilage in wooded areas. the 5.45mm is a tumbler and when penetrating cover, it is even less likely to cause damage than the 5.56mm (which was one of the big gripes in Vietnam when they used the older variants of that ammo, today you can get heavier 5.56mm, which preforms better under those conditions).Ah-Teen said:
still, this is why at close range, many still prefer the 7.62x39, because it's heavy & can punch through stuff a lot easier. it however suffers from extreme bullet drop at longer ranges, making it rather ineffective at that.
pfft 5.56mm NATO in a modified AK... *shrug*Wooz said:
kinda beats the purpose in my book.
still, it appears to be able to hold it's own in Iraq and i've heard good things about it, but it's just not for me...
JaW
It Wandered In From the Wastes
I'll recommended aged but still very good Sa-58. High quality, accurate, dismantled in 1 minute, rate of fire 800 rounds/min!!! I have one at home for a joy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa_vz._58
Sa58 Field Strip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpjshPOnzOk
Sa58 shooting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5uopFgIQb4
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sa_vz._58
Sa58 Field Strip
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpjshPOnzOk
Sa58 shooting
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5uopFgIQb4
a good weapon, but i dislike the esthetics (they wouldnt matter to me obviously if i was a soldier, but i'm a recreative shooter, so it also factors in).JaW said:
regardless, CZ makes very good weapons.
JaW
It Wandered In From the Wastes
SuAside said:
well it isn't beauty, the design is 50 years old
EDIT:
This upgrade looks much better:
http://www.aktivnizaloha.cz/storage/200606261751_58LeslV_resize.jpg
http://www.aktivnizaloha.cz/storage/200606261751_58Leslll_resize.jpg
or this one http://www.aktivnizaloha.cz/storage/200606261752_58P95bluza_resize.jpg
http://www.aktivnizaloha.cz/storage/200606261753_58Tpoust_resize.jpg
more videos: http://www.strelci.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=126
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Yeah I know. They seemed to be biased toward the M16 to make Americans feel good about themselves. And I know for a fact the AK can make a decent shot at that range. Though I still would prefer the 74 at range since the muzzle velocity is greater. The only positive video I could find about the AK-47 is this one... which for some reason the narrators description makes me want to play fallout over again. *note* "If I had to go to an alien world.... If western Civilization broke down....."
And the "more tanks than god".... wheres my red alert cd?
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=KvrG4T2K4sE[/youtube]
i still find it so goddamn odd that it doesnt have a real receiver cover... the whole thing goes open and shut.JaW said:well it isn't beauty, the design is 50 years old
EDIT:
This upgrade looks much better:
side not: the MP-40 is not 'the Schmeisser'
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Ah-Teen said:
Good luck with getting that round to 400m.
you can hit stuff at 400m, though the arc is so high, you cant possibly aim.
still, for oldskool volley fire, it should work.
still, for oldskool volley fire, it should work.
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Yeah, within range, but past the effective range.
Some guy posted this on HL2.net
For me it looks overly complicated, bulky, inefficent and downright sucky.
I'm not sure what that thing even is. It looks like an air gun with either great aspirations or a serious case of multiple personality disorder.
I see a faux MP5 reciever, and AR-15 cary handle and CAR stock, two (?) verticle grips, with one mounted on the faux suppressor(?!?)
In general, when you add weight to the barrel, like adding a suppressor, you cause a change in barrel harmonics and point of impact. In fact, a lot of folks go to great lengths to keep their barrels "free floated" , with no weight on the barrel from the receiver forward. Also, I can assure you that suppressors get quite hot. I can light a cigarette off of my 9mm suppressor after a couple of mags. Not sure I'd want my hand that close to the heat or to the end of the barrel. Also not sure how you can put the magazine forward of the locking bolt.
In summation, it's a fake.
I see a faux MP5 reciever, and AR-15 cary handle and CAR stock, two (?) verticle grips, with one mounted on the faux suppressor(?!?)
In general, when you add weight to the barrel, like adding a suppressor, you cause a change in barrel harmonics and point of impact. In fact, a lot of folks go to great lengths to keep their barrels "free floated" , with no weight on the barrel from the receiver forward. Also, I can assure you that suppressors get quite hot. I can light a cigarette off of my 9mm suppressor after a couple of mags. Not sure I'd want my hand that close to the heat or to the end of the barrel. Also not sure how you can put the magazine forward of the locking bolt.
In summation, it's a fake.
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JohnnyEgo said:
That puzzles me as well...
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Dopemine Cleric said:
<,,< yeah thats not me. If I ever said anything like that I probably got meters and feet mixed up. Which I do... quite often.... fucking imperial system....*leg humps fallout ranger*