The Guns and Ammo Thread

the same amount as i spent on my motorcycle years back (a tad below 5k), i will now spend on guns this year alone. this excludes munitions.

last year, i spent 3k on guns (excluding ammo).

now, i suspect i can't keep doing this, nor will i need to. this year i'll have all the "basics" i want. so next purchases will just be special things.

still, in time i do think i'll be needing a "hobby" room to store all this stuff. ;)
 
DammitBoy said:
A used MR-73 goes for $1399.00 us or $2499 aus - I don't know what that converts to in eurotards, but I sincerely doubt they go for 1050 euros.

There is also a waiting list for new Manurhins.

See this link; http://www.sportingguns.com.au/UsedGuns/UsedGuns.asp

I call shenannigans... :roll:
that's mostly because only limited amounts were imported to the US. as such, prices balloon and people see their chance to make a good buck.

and taking Ausfailia as a reference for a French weapon? don't know what to say to that.

Chapuis Arms is the current manufacturer of Manurhin weapons, since Manurhin crashed & burned so many years ago. Chapuis makes very high class hunting weapons mostly and has a rather decent dealer network set up in western europe.
it's also ironic that many people simply don't know about the MR-73 and want an S&W because it's flashier & better known from the media.

also 1050 Euros = 1 382.22 U.S. dollars

PS: you can buy Manurhin 6 inch sport models second hand here for around 600 euros.
 
oh, the envy. ;)

i'll see if i can make some cellphone pics (my digicam died) next saturday. going to the store then.
 
SuAside said:
oh, the envy. ;)

i'll see if i can make some cellphone pics (my digicam died) next saturday. going to the store then.

Envy?

Junior, I'm a gun nut. I've been collecting for over 35 years. I have more than 32 guns - I'm not exactly sure, I might have more, I haven't counted lately.

I'm hard pressed to figure out what to buy when I'm standing in the middle of a gun show with $2500.00 in hand.

Envy doesn't enter the picture. Disdain, pity, and revulsion come to mind when reflecting upon you and your posturing - but not envy.
 
you're probably the only person i've ever heard explicitly saying he doesn't want an MR-73... congratz, you're unique!
 
SuAside said:
you're probably the only person i've ever heard explicitly saying he doesn't want an MR-73... congratz, you're unique!

*shrugs*

Not much of a revolver guy, except I collect S&W lemonsqueezers and I really like Ruger blackhawk single actions.

Other than that, I'm mostly into semi-auto pistols, shotguns and rifles. Thinking about adding a few bolt action military rifles into the collection before WWII stuff gets really pricey. I do have two pump shottys with extended magazines for home defense though. If hunting with a shotgun, it will always be one of my trusty 1100's.

Probably, the only revolver I'd want at this time is the Ruger Alaskan 2 1/2" .454 casull and that merely for it's novelty 'boom' factor.

My daily carry gun is a very plain, utilitarian Para-Ordinance P14 that has had the ramp and the triggered reworked. It's back-up is a Ruger SP101 in .357, which is what my wife carries as well.

I have a lot of odd stuff in my collection, like an HKVP70Z and a Chinese broomhandle mauser converted to magazine feed in 9mm.
 
DammitBoy said:
SuAside said:
oh, the envy. ;)

i'll see if i can make some cellphone pics (my digicam died) next saturday. going to the store then.

Envy?

Junior, I'm a gun nut. I've been collecting for over 35 years. I have more than 32 guns - I'm not exactly sure, I might have more, I haven't counted lately.

I'm hard pressed to figure out what to buy when I'm standing in the middle of a gun show with $2500.00 in hand.

Envy doesn't enter the picture. Disdain, pity, and revulsion come to mind when reflecting upon you and your posturing - but not envy.

Settle down, boys. A lot of hostility over one man's preference in revolvers.

1. The MR-73 seems like a nice gun. I had never heard of it before, but I am not the all knowing type of firearms enthusiast, so I looked it up. Seems to be well made and a reliable revolver.

2. I am always fascinated by the value placed on importation, which is why a Mercedes is considered a luxury sedan over here, and a taxi cab over there. I paid quite a bit less for both of my 686s together. Even the one I had 'fancified' for competion still books well under the going rate for a stock 686 in the European markets. The stock 686 is a fine and very accurate revolver, but at that price-point, there are many others as well. You really want an expensive revolver, have a look at Korth. Somewhere north of $5k.

3. Concerning money: It is, in my opinion, in somewhat poor taste to brag about what one spends on one's hobbies. But I will do so here to illustrate a point. Last year, I spent a little over $17k on firearms. It was a good year for me, and that is considerably more then I might spend in a normal year. But what does it really mean? I am very small potatoes compared to many of my acquaintances. A friend of mine spent over $50K in Spare Parts for his water-cooled belt fed. Quantity reflects nothing. I have spent small amounts of money on inexpensive firearms, but I have never bought a 'cheap' one. By the same token, I have spent a lot of money on firearms that interest me, but may have no intrinsic value above others that are out there. How much you do, or can, spend is therefore a rather poor metric on which to pass judgement.

4. 32 guns in 35 years? You're a little behind the curve!
 
DammitBoy said:
Probably, the only revolver I'd want at this time is the Ruger Alaskan 2 1/2" .454 casull and that merely for it's novelty 'boom' factor.
an S&W .460 would probably be even better for that... :twisted:

JohnnyEgo said:
2. I am always fascinated by the value placed on importation, which is why a Mercedes is considered a luxury sedan over here, and a taxi cab over there. I paid quite a bit less for both of my 686s together. Even the one I had 'fancified' for competion still books well under the going rate for a stock 686 in the European markets. The stock 686 is a fine and very accurate revolver, but at that price-point, there are many others as well. You really want an expensive revolver, have a look at Korth. Somewhere north of $5k.
yeah, a 686 costs like 800-900 euros here. which means a slightly modified version costs the same as a Manurhin MR-73. which is lightyears beyond (except perhaps in looks, but i don't care).

as for Korth, yeah, you wont find anything below 3500 euros.
also Janz is damn good, but at the same price range.

but you get what you pay for. i once saw a Korth that fired a double magnum load. the cylinder was bulged, but the frame was perfectly intact. try that with a Ruger or an S&W, you'll be picking the pieces out of your face. ;)
still, replacing the cylinder costed as much as a new 686. ;)
JohnnyEgo said:
3. Concerning money: It is, in my opinion, in somewhat poor taste to brag about what one spends on one's hobbies. But I will do so here to illustrate a point. Last year, I spent a little over $17k on firearms. It was a good year for me, and that is considerably more then I might spend in a normal year. But what does it really mean? I am very small potatoes compared to many of my acquaintances. A friend of mine spent over $50K in Spare Parts for his water-cooled belt fed. Quantity reflects nothing. I have spent small amounts of money on inexpensive firearms, but I have never bought a 'cheap' one. By the same token, I have spent a lot of money on firearms that interest me, but may have no intrinsic value above others that are out there. How much you do, or can, spend is therefore a rather poor metric on which to pass judgement.
meh... if nothin else, it keeps the economy going... :)

but people that rant about people spending on guns, forget about what people spend on sigs, alcohol, girlfriends with expensive tastes, boats, cars, motorcycles,...

to each his own. 8-)
 
JohnnyEgo said:
Settle down, boys. A lot of hostility over one man's preference in revolvers.

4. 32 guns in 35 years? You're a little behind the curve!

The number flucuates as I buy, sell, and trade. Been as low as 3 guns and as many as 50 and I've probably sold and traded several hundred in that time. That's the nature of my hobby, I'm not a hoarder. Which inevitably results in me, at some point, saying - "Why the fuck did I trade that?" or "What the hell was I thinking?!"...

My hostility is reflective of my personal dislike of suaside, not his choice in weapons.

You seem like a nice level-headed, non-snob kinda poster, I've always enjoyed reading your posts and seeing your posted pics.

I've always believed in quality and provenance over dollars spent myself. If you like something and enjoy it, who cares what monetary value other folks put on it? Bragging about the expensive cost of a gun is ultra lame - hence suasides proclivity to brag and boast while looking down his nose at what others purchase.

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ps - Suaside, if somebody gave me an S&W .460 - I'd sell it and get the Ruger in .500 or .454 (still a silly gun though).
 
DammitBoy said:
My hostility is reflective of my personal dislike of suaside, not his choice in weapons.

You seem like a nice level-headed, non-snob kinda poster, I've always enjoyed reading your posts and seeing your posted pics.
so that makes me a bypolar snob then? :)
DammitBoy said:
Bragging about the expensive cost of a gun is ultra lame - hence suasides proclivity to brag and boast while looking down his nose at what others purchase.
i don't get it... how does mentioning how much i spend on guns make me 'brag'? from my point of view, i spend pretty little on guns, actually, when comparing to other hobbies, or interests. and i work hard for that little bitty amount... probably too hard.

each individual buy, i feel like i actually get more than i pay for, which is also why i said the MR-73 costed 1050 euros. that wasn't bragging.

as for looking down at other people's purchases? what? the only things i've posted here were no bullshit personal opinions and none were to demean anyone's purchase. whatever floats your fuckin' boat, dude... if High-Point pistols are your thing, have fun! i don't like em, but i aint going to stop you. and i also think Korth revolvers are waaaaay too expensive, but knock yourself out.

i might be a lot of bad things, but trust me, being a snob aint one of them.
DammitBoy said:
ps - Suaside, if somebody gave me an S&W .460 - I'd sell it and get the Ruger in .500 or .454 (still a silly gun though).
well, you were going for the ultimate useless handbazooka, you might as well get the .460S&W, still more or less the most commonly found and most powerful revolver (more so tha the .500S&W or .454Cas).

personally, i wouldn't even touch any of those guns with a 10 foot stick.
 
DammitBoy said:
Snobbery duly noted... :roll:
euhm, dunno about the USA dude, but here in the EU, the .460 & .500 S&W are guns loved by snobs... ;)

i think you need to look up the definition of snobbism...
DammitBoy said:
ps - High Point's are crap.
snob...
 
My guns!

Marlin 30-30 leveraction
Brandfreaking new XD tactical 5 inch in .40s&w with two 12 round magazines (.40 bigots can kiss my ass)
Ruger 10-22 with scope
Remington 870 12 gauge 26 inch barrel with awesome civicam on the furnature.

I also got a Blackhawk Serpa holster for the xd.

Click the thumbnails!




















My gun freezer! (chemical freezer, explosive resistant and has a lock.




And my cats!



 
neat!

how'd you like the Marlin? someone offered me a Marlin 39A Mounty, think i'll take him up on that.

also, lol, "FRIGID". haha, that's fucking cool. :P
 
For 15 bucks that freezer is all sorts of awesome.


Marlin as a company is a fantastic company. I learned to shoot on their .22s and with this lever action I am absolutely sold on their weapons.
 
Ah-Teen said:
For 15 bucks that freezer is all sorts of awesome.
15 bucks? goddamn it!

do want...


as for the whole Manurhin thing, i forgot to post on Sunday. went to the shop. an MR-73 4 inch for 1050 euros new, but the cylinder had some blemishes althought it was clearly new (shipping damage, what a shame... he was willing to give me a deal on the price because of it).
anyhow, i asked him to get the prices for new 4" and 5.25" versions.
now that i've seen the gun and tried it, i'm abso-fucking-lutely in love... the SA trigger is smoother than a baby's bottom, the DA trigger is damn nice, the grip is very comfortable and the blue is... well, damn... you could practically get lost in it. it's so deep.

i'm quite entertaining buying the blemished 4" for practical shooting and buying a 5.25" for target shooting and collectioning...
 
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