The Guns and Ammo Thread

[PainlessDocM]

That was purely coincidental.

 

[Public]

gun owners anyone?

 

[DirkGently]

0000 Steel wool and gun oil. Use some oil lubricate, clean it off with the 0000 steel wool.

Reloading is pretty common practice and not necessarily all that dangerous. If you're interested in shooting regularly, it's worth keeping the equipment and saving your brass and reloading it; some basic research will give you some information on how to use/load the cartridges, but if you're not interested, it's not necessary, and it can be dangerous (there are all kinds of crazy loads out there). Remember, safe and sane keeps your blood on the inside.

 

[PainlessDocM]

Thanks man, will try that out. Preserving history and all that jazz.

 

[DexterMorgan]

Buy a Norinco copy (they're cheap) and then as you get more money available, make some modifications to make it better (like triggerwork etc, since the Norinco is a bit rought standard, but the metal used is great quality).

And they go for as low as $400? Holy shit!

 

[the_cpl]

gun owners anyone?

Yes, we know. That's what you can own in the UK.

 

[DirkGently]

Nevermind history (although that's awesome) you actually want that cocksucker to work. (make sure you check out the barrel too.)

 

[MutantScalper]

If I had a weapon that was basically a museum piece I certainly wouldn't be shooting it. But hey, to each his own.

 

[Mettle]

Out of secondary curiosity; If* one were to travel to the USA, can you as a tourist go anywhere to go do some shooting under controlled circumstances?
And is there any way to do some legal shooting with automatic weapons?

 

[DirkGently]

If I had a weapon that was basically a museum piece I certainly wouldn't be shooting it. But hey, to each his own.

It's called Living History.

Out of secondary curiosity; If* one were to travel to the USA, can you as a tourist go anywhere to go do some shooting under controlled circumstances?
And is there any way to do some legal shooting with automatic weapons?

Yes and yes. There are plenty of rental ranges and typically all they require is that you be over eighteen, give some picture ID and a some money, and you can shoot all you want/can afford.

There are ranges/events where you can fire full auto weapons, but they're a bit pricier/harder to find. FA is legal, but heavily regulated (National Firearms Act, or NFA) and have a pretty price tax stamp ($500 USD, commonly called 'the rental fee').

So long as you listen to the range officers/instructors, it's a pretty easy/good time based on where you go.

Also, if you know any online friends who are gun owners/enthusiasts, they may let you come over and play with their toys and show you how to use properly.

Alternatively, don't go to America, go to Serbia and do some of their living history stuff. Like firing a 40mm Bofors cannon. Or some countries in S.E. Asia where for the right price you can fire a RPG. At a cow.

PS seriously google "Living history of serbia" to see about firing a 40mm Bofors cannon. (yes I want to do it so bad)

 

[PainlessDocM]

Some more pointy objects:

If I had a weapon that was basically a museum piece I certainly wouldn't be shooting it. But hey, to each his own.

I don't intend to discharge them, at least not now perhaps in the distant future.

 

[SuAside]

I'll try to gather info on both guns, PainlessDocM.

Only thing I can say already is that it's most likely Norbert Cachoir who made that revolver. He made weapons in Brussels around 1912 and later.

Also: katanas? lul, what?

I know that ballistic coefficients are involved, and recoil ofcourse - but where would you otherwise get it from? Weight? Or size for better grip?

Mechanical accuracy of the weapon (which is why a semi-auto is by nature less accurate than a bolt action or single shot).
Quality of the barrel and rifling.
Rifling twist rate in relation to bullet weight and powder load.
Barrel finish (chromed barrels are by nature harder to make accurate than stainless steel ones for instance).
Barrel harmonics (the barrel shakes from the violent discharge and must be in tune with the projectile).

And so on and so forth.

Once you go past a minimum length of barrel, there is no real gain in the weapon's accuracy. A longer barrel can of course mean longer sight range and such, which allows for easier aiming, but that doesn't change the weapon's inherent accuracy, only the human's ease of using it accurately.

If you do some research on the matter, you should find plenty of literature on it.

Buy a Norinco copy (they're cheap) and then as you get more money available, make some modifications to make it better (like triggerwork etc, since the Norinco is a bit rought standard, but the metal used is great quality).

And they go for as low as $400? Holy shit!

That's a bit optimistic. But they should be rather cheap in any country where they can be had.
You should do some reading on them. They're often discussed as project guns, especially amongst canadians.

 

[PainlessDocM]

I'll try to gather info on both guns, PainlessDocM.

Only thing I can say already is that it's most likely Norbert Cachoir who made that revolver. He made weapons in Brussels around 1912 and later.

Also: katanas? lul, what?

Thanks, much appreciated. I'll try to make a photograph of the symbols on the revolver . You don't like katana's? I used to love them when I was a teenager

This looks like the bayonet we own, although it's not exactly the same. It is currently at my brothers house. Will take /ask for a picture. It's a very mean looking (and quite large) WW1 (?) thing

I found this on the interwebz

http://www.littlegun.be/arme belge/artisans identifies c/a cachoir fr.htm

 

[Dragula]

PS seriously google "Living history of serbia" to see about firing a 40mm Bofors cannon. (yes I want to do it so bad)

Eh, POS.

 

[DirkGently]

PS seriously google "Living history of serbia" to see about firing a 40mm Bofors cannon. (yes I want to do it so bad)

Eh, POS.

You got a problem with bigass autocannons? Bofors makes good shit and we use them. They used to be the AC-130U "Spooky" gunships, though they're being/been replaced with a 30mm made by Bushmaster.

@PainlessDocM: I've seen awesome bayonets like that before, but the best, most :black101: bayonets i've seen have the upper side of the blade serrated, for sawing through people/barbed wire. Those are awesome.

Katanas and swords and things are kinda boring, imo. Unless you're really, really into actually stuff with that sword, you've got a big showpiece, and all you can do with it is have it sit there or make you look like a douchebag.

 

[Dapper Dan Man]

Pistol: Sig-Sauer P225 9mm - The handgun I learned how to properly shoot on. I always have been partial to this.

Pistol: Ruger Mark II - Target 22. LR pistol. Good to take out into the backyard and try my hand at the deflated basketball I used as a target.


Future plans. My next station being in the middle of @#$%ing Texas, I feel like I should add to my small collection:

Pistol: Thinking about trying to find a decent 'concealable' 9mm for the time. The P225 I love and has a lower profile, but doesn't hide as well as newer models. I may instead give a Glock another try, but I really like how Sig handles.

Shotgun: Home defense.

 

[SuAside]

Not a bad start at all, Fireblade.

Thanks, much appreciated.

LG: Definitieve zware beproeving met zwartkruit
Onder het sterretje staat het merkteken, Initiaal van de inspecteur
R (met kroon): Voor revolvers: ofwel "Zwartkruit met 30% overdruk" ofwel "Rookzwakkruit met 50% overdruk". (Overige wapens normale druk)
Leeuwke met PV: Laatste proef met rookloos kruit (vanaf 1903)

I'll try to make a photograph of the symbols on the revolver.

Seems like Cachoir & family was active from 1910 to 1965, give or take.

You don't like katana's? I used to love them when I was a teenager

Let's say I'm not a fan of the hype spread by some people.

@PainlessDocM: I've seen awesome bayonets like that before, but the best, most :black101: bayonets i've seen have the upper side of the blade serrated, for sawing through people/barbed wire. Those are awesome.

You make my brain hurt... Large serrated bayonets are for pioneers and engineers. They weren't made to saw people in half, and for barbed wire they had better and faster ways.
The saw edges were meant to saw stuff (big surprise). If you'll remember, building fortifications in those times usually required quite a bit of wooden support structures. If you'll remember, combat engineers also dug tunnels towards the enemy lines, which yet again had to be supported by wooden support structures.

Katanas and swords and things are kinda boring, imo. Unless you're really, really into actually stuff with that sword, you've got a big showpiece, and all you can do with it is have it sit there or make you look like a douchebag.

This differs how from people who own historic firearms?

 

[DexterMorgan]

@PainlessDocM: I've seen awesome bayonets like that before, but the best, most :black101: bayonets i've seen have the upper side of the blade serrated, for sawing through people/barbed wire. Those are awesome.

As Sua already pointed out, serrations are there to be used for cutting through various materials, not flesh.

On a primarily stabby weapon like a rifle with a mounted bayonet they're a good way to get your weapon stuck and disarm yourself.

That's a bit optimistic. But they should be rather cheap in any country where they can be had.
You should do some reading on them. They're often discussed as project guns, especially amongst canadians.

I know, I did say "as low as". Don't have any illusions I'd score one that cheap. And yeah, I've already visited a couple of Canadian gun-nut forums

 

[alec]

This is my personal slingshot. As ammo I favour icecubes, as they disappear after the crime has been committed. Also: because they water my plants after I chase the stray cats out of my rooftop garden.
And it's fun at Christmas when local kids fire up^tons of fireworks and I just feel like I need to react to their missiles with some of my own.



It cost me €7,50.

 

[SuAside]

Smart move, alec. I like the ice cubes. Do you use a specific type? (round "cubes" instead of normal cubes for easier aiming?)

Just remember that shooting them at anyone and getting caught could have some serious consequences in Belgistan.