UniversalWolf
eaten by a grue.
Anyone here know anything about Colt .38 Supers? I have one and I've been trying to find data on it, but they're pretty rare and all the info I've come up with seems confusing or contradictory.
The Guns and Ammo Thread
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Euhm, there are a huge amount of guns that are nothing more than range guns... What's your point? A lot of stuff isn't practical at all. But that's fine.DirkGently said:
Oh please die.DirkGently said:
.38 Super is a souped up 9x19mm. Easier to load to higher pressure to reach higher power factors. Most commercial .38 Super is however anemic shit out of fear of blowing up badly converted pistols.UniversalWolf said:
A 1911 in .38 Super is nice, but expensive to feed (you need to pick up reloading anyway).
In the end, nothing wrong with .38 Super, they're just not very common or accepted outside the racegun crowd. Currently a lot of IPSC shooters are switching from .38 Super to .40 S&W for practical reasons & cost of practise ammo.
WillisPDunlevey
Mildly Dipped
Para-ordnance makes an 18 shot .38 super that I have been looking at, but the price of ammo is the issue for me. I do have a weapon in 9mm largo (similar over all dimensions to the .38 super but not interchangeable and it is expensive to shoot. My only ammo choices are CCI (yuck) or old ass Santa Barbara (Yuck as well).
as a side note,
I saw an episode of some police reality show years ago and some guy killed his girlfriend with an IPSC .38 super as she was running away from the passenger side of his pickup. he got her with a tight pattern in the back and the cops would not stop talking about the "tight" group.
as a side note,
I saw an episode of some police reality show years ago and some guy killed his girlfriend with an IPSC .38 super as she was running away from the passenger side of his pickup. he got her with a tight pattern in the back and the cops would not stop talking about the "tight" group.
Practical accuracy in a 9x19mm or .38Super will be fairly similar.
So good shooter + good pistol and you can expect about the same results in practical shooting situations.
You should however not compare a .38 Super race gun against a stock duty pistol.
So good shooter + good pistol and you can expect about the same results in practical shooting situations.
You should however not compare a .38 Super race gun against a stock duty pistol.
Bal-Sagoth
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
On the subject of Desert Eagles,
I work Asset Protection at Best Buy. Every day at pre-determined random intervals the money men come from one of the contracted armor car companies to take what ever we have in the safe to lock up. They are all issued standard 9mm Glocks by default but they can carry what ever they want if they provide it, sometimes you will see some with revolvers instead of automatics. Well one of the newer guys who came in that I had not seen before the other day, straight up had a Desert Eagle in a thigh holster on him. It was the most ridiculous while at the same time awesome thing I had ever seen.
Honestly, I doubt many people knock over armored cars these days so the guns they carry are mostly a deterrent factor if anything. It would be pretty intimidating to most I am sure to see that hand cannon strapped to some guy you were thinking about taking on.
I work Asset Protection at Best Buy. Every day at pre-determined random intervals the money men come from one of the contracted armor car companies to take what ever we have in the safe to lock up. They are all issued standard 9mm Glocks by default but they can carry what ever they want if they provide it, sometimes you will see some with revolvers instead of automatics. Well one of the newer guys who came in that I had not seen before the other day, straight up had a Desert Eagle in a thigh holster on him. It was the most ridiculous while at the same time awesome thing I had ever seen.
Honestly, I doubt many people knock over armored cars these days so the guns they carry are mostly a deterrent factor if anything. It would be pretty intimidating to most I am sure to see that hand cannon strapped to some guy you were thinking about taking on.
UniversalWolf
eaten by a grue.
I know all about the ammo cost and whatnot for .38 Super. I'm more interested in the specific models because some of them are rare and collectible. The one I have is nothing special as far as I know, but even dating the manufacture has been more confusing than it ought to be. As far as I can tell it was either made in the late 1930s or the 1950s. Both are possible given what I know of it's history.
The Desert Eagle shoots slowly if you want to shoot accurately. Recovery time is long before getting back on target.Bal-Sagoth said:
The ammo used is big, but a bad penetrator. Bodyarmor should stop it just fine.
And how intimidated do you think that the criminal with the AKM/AR15/FAL/G3 will be?
It will impress ghetto retards, but it will not stop someone with half a brain and a plan...
Bal-Sagoth
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
SuAside said:
Well as I said it does not really matter, he mostly just had it on there for novelty factor and just a general "yes I am armed don't fuck with me". It is not as if armored car robbery is thriving these days anyways, I am hard pressed to find many related news stories of it at all.
WillisPDunlevey
Mildly Dipped
UniversalWolf said:
What .38 super do you have? Colt? If its a name brand build like that, its not too hard to find the info through the company's historical division.
WPD
UniversalWolf
eaten by a grue.
Yeah, that's an option. I'm trying to avoid paying their archiving fee, though.WillisPDunlevey said:
FWIW, it's a Colt Commander with a 31--- LW serial number. My father got it in trade from my uncle, who was an MP in the U.S. Army. I don't know for sure whether or not it was his service pistol. It looks almost exactly like a 1911.
WillisPDunlevey
Mildly Dipped
A quick google search for Colt Commander .38 super turned up a bunch from the 1970s- present listed for $1200+ depending on model and engraving etc.
You probably have a collecters item there and should get a good appraisal/info from Colt so you know what its worth.
WPD
You probably have a collecters item there and should get a good appraisal/info from Colt so you know what its worth.
WPD
UniversalWolf
eaten by a grue.
See, the funny thing is, my searches turned up a date-of-manufacture in either the late 1930s or the mid 1950s. I can't tell for sure which one is right.WillisPDunlevey said:
I know for a fact it's earlier than the 1970s. Sometime in the 1960s is the latest it could possibly be.
I'm sure you're right about the appraisal though. Thanks for the effort.
It's a cool pistol, and I don't plan on selling it.
Pistol: Glock 22 (.40 S&W standard frame)
Back-up or conceal carry pistol: none yet, probably the Glock 23 or 27 (.40 S&W compact or sub-compact)
Carbine: Kel-Tec Sub 2000. Available in 9mm or .40, and can use magazines from either Glock or S&W/Beretta/Sig pistols. Mine's Glock .40
Rifle: none yet, leaning toward something lever-action in the .30-ish caliber area.
Shotgun: haven't even looked into these yet.
Back-up or conceal carry pistol: none yet, probably the Glock 23 or 27 (.40 S&W compact or sub-compact)
Carbine: Kel-Tec Sub 2000. Available in 9mm or .40, and can use magazines from either Glock or S&W/Beretta/Sig pistols. Mine's Glock .40
Rifle: none yet, leaning toward something lever-action in the .30-ish caliber area.
Shotgun: haven't even looked into these yet.
Pre-determined and random?Bal-Sagoth said:
Bal-Sagoth
Water Chip? Been There, Done That
LazyGnome said:
Pre-Determined for them, random for us. Who knows, maybe they think Best Buy is going to stage a heist. Honestly it does not seem like that bad of a gig, I still have my heart set on Law Enforcement but if I can't get work with an agency right away after I finish my Criminal Justice degree, I might try to get work with an armored car company.
Anyways, picked up a new gun today. Black Friday sell + tax free on all firearms purchased today and tomorrow.
Springfield XDM .40 S&W
Threepwood
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
I own a 20 bore (gauge) shotgun for shooting game.
Carib FMJ
Nuka-Cola Chaser
PISTOL: Planning to get a GLOCK 19 and or a Night Hawk Dragon 1911A1
RIFLE: LaRue Tactical OBR 16" Barrel Rifle in 5.56mm. Bushmaster ACR or H&K MR223 (Civilian 416)
SHOTGUN: Mossberg 500 .12 guage
RIFLE: LaRue Tactical OBR 16" Barrel Rifle in 5.56mm. Bushmaster ACR or H&K MR223 (Civilian 416)
SHOTGUN: Mossberg 500 .12 guage
I usually don't talk about what - if any - guns I own, but because I'm mostly anonymous; among a few as unusual - my Colt 1911 is my favorite - is my Sharps .50-90.
I like revolvers more than pistols, as far as protection and range-firing goes. Any one else agree?
I like revolvers more than pistols, as far as protection and range-firing goes. Any one else agree?
Threepwood
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Bulero said:
See, I'd love to own a revolver, sadly British law says not.
Piston ARs are not worth the trouble, Carib. They add a miriad of problems in an attempt to revolve other problems. I know several people who own the MR223 or have used the HK416N in a workrelated setting and none of them seem that hugely pleased with it.Carib FMJ said:
I'm also a fan of the Masada concept, but do not like what became the ACR.