The Guns and Ammo Thread

5.45x39 is a really fun cartridge. Low recoil, reasonably accurate. Sensitive to wind though.

Enjoy.
 
Don't have the kind of cash for a REAL gun yet (still a student) but I do have a crosman 2100 air rifle. Want a pistol, but it's harder to get one in MI than most other states.
 
WelcomeToNewReno said:
. Want a pistol, but it's harder to get one in MI than most other states.

No it is not. I live in Michigan. Sure, you have one or two more steps than are required in Somalia, but in Michigan, it is easier to buy a gun than to buy a blowjob (they dont sell those at Cabellas yet)

Step 1. Find/decide on a pistol that you want.
Step 2. Go to police station to get permit (takes 15 minutes)
(Getting permit requires that you are not a felon or a retard)
Step 3. take permit to seller and get pistol (NICS check time varies)
Step 4. Take pistol and permit back to police station so they can "make sure pistol is not stolen)

Go home with pistol.

The end.
 
Yeah, actually that is an awful lot of trouble.

Here in glorious South Carolina it goes something like this.


Step 1. Enter gun store

Step 2. Give ID and select gun while they run background check.

Step 3. Background check is done in 15-20 min, pay for gun.

Step 4. Leave store.


The entire process takes all of 30 min if you know what you want, the way it should be.
 
WillisPDunlevey said:
WelcomeToNewReno said:
. Want a pistol, but it's harder to get one in MI than most other states.

No it is not. I live in Michigan. Sure, you have one or two more steps than are required in Somalia, but in Michigan, it is easier to buy a gun than to buy a blowjob (they dont sell those at Cabellas yet)

Step 1. Find/decide on a pistol that you want.
Step 2. Go to police station to get permit (takes 15 minutes)
(Getting permit requires that you are not a felon or a retard)
Step 3. take permit to seller and get pistol (NICS check time varies)
Step 4. Take pistol and permit back to police station so they can "make sure pistol is not stolen)

Go home with pistol.

The end.

More like:

Step 1. Find/decide on a pistol that you want.
Step 2. Go to police station to get permit (takes 15 minutes)
Step 3. Contact your FFL dealer.
Step 4. Contact the online store.
Step 5. Order the firearm and wait for the dealer.
Step 6. Go to the FFL dealer for NICS background check.
Step 7. Get a "Delayed" and go home without the firearm and wait.
Step 8. Go to the FFL again and pay, go home with the pistol.
Step 9. Take pistol and permit back to police station so they can "make sure pistol is not stolen)
Step 10. If you want to carry it, you must pay a lots of money, you must spend at least 8 hours at a safety course. Pay.
Step 11. You must go back to the police station, again. Pay.

:|

Usually you can't find stores around the area, what is selling handguns too, and they sell perfectly the same what you want. I know only 1 place in my area, they sell handguns too, and all their guns are really overpriced.
 
the_cpl said:
More like:
Step 1. Find/decide on a pistol that you want.
Step 2. Go to police station to get permit (takes 15 minutes)
Step 3. Contact your FFL dealer.
Step 4. Contact the online store.
Step 5. Order the firearm and wait for the dealer.
Step 6. Go to the FFL dealer for NICS background check.
Step 7. Get a "Delayed" and go home without the firearm and wait.
Step 8. Go to the FFL again and pay, go home with the pistol.
Step 9. Take pistol and permit back to police station so they can "make sure pistol is not stolen)
Step 10. If you want to carry it, you must pay a lots of money, you must spend at least 8 hours at a safety course. Pay.
Step 11. You must go back to the police station, again. Pay.

:|

Usually you can't find stores around the area, what is selling handguns too, and they sell perfectly the same what you want. I know only 1 place in my area, they sell handguns too, and all their guns are really overpriced.

I have to agree about the lack of good stores in the area with good prices. Most are way expensive and or cater only to bubbas.

As for having NICS troubles, i have a pretty unique name so its not an issue for me. IIRC if you have a C&R license or CCW NICS is not needed .... though some dealers want to do that anyway to justify the fees.
 
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my latest addition to the John Wayne Arsenal of Freedom:

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my ss para-ordnance P16 10mm wilson combat conversion

I intend to customize the hell out of it, with more performance parts and a face-lift

nothing like 16 rounds of 10mm to make a statement...

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Here's my updated arsenal list

1. Thompson Center .54 cal Hawkins blackpowder (R)
2. Pennsylvania .50 cal long blackpowder rifle dixie gunworks kit (R)
3. Uberti 1873 revolver carbine .45LC single action (R)
4. Pietta .44 cal New Army Model 1858 cap and ball, single action black powder (P)
5. Uberti 1860 Army Colt .44 caliber black powder single action (P)
6. Davis .32 auto single action derringer (P)
7. Para-Ordnance P14 .45 cal semi-auto (P)
8. M1A1 Garand .308 cal semi-auto (R)
9. Mossberg 144 LSA .22 target bolt action (R)
10. SKS-45 Romanian 7.62x39 semi-auto (R)
11. Winchester Model 94 .45LC lever action (R)
12. Remington 1100 12ga. 2 3/4" semi-auto (S)
13. Remington 870 12ga. 3” pump action (S)
14. Remington Rolling Block #4 .22 single shot circa 1884 (R)
15. I.A.C. model 99 1887 coach gun side by side 20ga. (S)
16. Intratec AB-10 9mm semi-auto (P)
17. Ruger new model Blackhawk .357 7" barrel single action (P)
18. Ruger new model Blackhawk .45LC 5" barrel single action (P)
19. Ruger new model Blackhawk 30 carbine 7.5” barrel single action (P)
20. Ruger new model Super Blackhawk 44 stainless steel magnum 7.5” barrel single action (P)
21. Ruger Mark II 50th anniversary edition .22 cal semi-auto (P)
22. Ruger Mark III fluted barrel stainless steel target semi-auto (P)
23. Ruger .454 casull revolver (P)
24. Ruger single-six .22/.22 magnum Blackhawk single action (P)
25. Ruger SP101 .357 revolver (P)
26. Ruger 10/22 RBI .22 semi-auto (R)
27. Ruger Mini-14 ranch rifle .223 cal semi-auto (R)
28. Smith & Wesson 1898 break top ‘lemon squeezer’ .32SW model #1 dao (P)
29. Smith & Wesson 1906 break top 'lemon squeezer' .32SW model #2 dao (P)
30. Smith & Wesson 1915 break top 'lemon squeezer' .32SW model #3 dao (P)
31. Smith & Wesson 1918 break top 'lemon squeezer' .32SW model #3 with pearl grips dao (P)
32. Mauser 1896 'broomhandle' 9mm semi-auto (P)
33. Mauser G98 1914 7mm bolt-action (R)
34. Colt HBAR-15 match grade target .223 semi-auto (R)
35. Bushmaster Carbon-15 7.5” barrel P97S .223 semi-auto (P)
36. HK VP70z 9mm semi-auto (P)
37. AK .223 Romanian krinkov semi-auto (P)
38. Llama .45 minimax semi-auto (P)
39. Moisen-Nagant M44 7.62x54 bolt action (R)
40. Rossi/Puma Legacy .454 casull lever action carbine (R)
41. M.I.L.S. ThunderFive .410 / 45 long colt revolver (P)
42. M6 Springfield Armory Scout survival rifle .22 hornet/.410 (R)
43. Walther P22 Target .22 semi-auto (P)
44. GSG P5 .22 semi-auto (P)
45. Benelli M1 tactical 12ga. Semi-auto shotgun (S)
46. Para-Ordnance P10 Warthog .45 semi-auto (P)
47. Para-Ordnance P16 10mm custom conversion semi-auto (P)

(P) = pistol
(R) = rifle
(S) = shotgun
 
SuAside said:
DammitBoy said:
nothing like 16 rounds of 10mm to make a statement...
You don't say. :P

You loading your own 10mm auto? What are you using?

I got 550 rounds of ammo with the pistol, along with eight boxes of hornady defense...

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I like their jhp/xtp line of ammo. About $25 for a box of 20 here.
 
DammitBoy said:
Here's my updated arsenal list

1. Thompson Center .54 cal Hawkins blackpowder (R)
2. Pennsylvania .50 cal long blackpowder rifle dixie gunworks kit (R)
3. Uberti 1873 revolver carbine .45LC single action (R)
4. Pietta .44 cal New Army Model 1858 cap and ball, single action black powder (P)
5. Uberti 1860 Army Colt .44 caliber black powder single action (P)
6. Davis .32 auto single action derringer (P)
7. Para-Ordnance P14 .45 cal semi-auto (P)
8. M1A1 Garand .308 cal semi-auto (R)
9. Mossberg 144 LSA .22 target bolt action (R)
10. SKS-45 Romanian 7.62x39 semi-auto (R)
11. Winchester Model 94 .45LC lever action (R)
12. Remington 1100 12ga. 2 3/4" semi-auto (S)
13. Remington 870 12ga. 3” pump action (S)
14. Remington Rolling Block #4 .22 single shot circa 1884 (R)
15. I.A.C. model 99 1887 coach gun side by side 20ga. (S)
16. Intratec AB-10 9mm semi-auto (P)
17. Ruger new model Blackhawk .357 7" barrel single action (P)
18. Ruger new model Blackhawk .45LC 5" barrel single action (P)
19. Ruger new model Blackhawk 30 carbine 7.5” barrel single action (P)
20. Ruger new model Super Blackhawk 44 stainless steel magnum 7.5” barrel single action (P)
21. Ruger Mark II 50th anniversary edition .22 cal semi-auto (P)
22. Ruger Mark III fluted barrel stainless steel target semi-auto (P)
23. Ruger .454 casull revolver (P)
24. Ruger single-six .22/.22 magnum Blackhawk single action (P)
25. Ruger SP101 .357 revolver (P)
26. Ruger 10/22 RBI .22 semi-auto (R)
27. Ruger Mini-14 ranch rifle .223 cal semi-auto (R)
28. Smith & Wesson 1898 break top ‘lemon squeezer’ .32SW model #1 dao (P)
29. Smith & Wesson 1906 break top 'lemon squeezer' .32SW model #2 dao (P)
30. Smith & Wesson 1915 break top 'lemon squeezer' .32SW model #3 dao (P)
31. Smith & Wesson 1918 break top 'lemon squeezer' .32SW model #3 with pearl grips dao (P)
32. Mauser 1896 'broomhandle' 9mm semi-auto (P)
33. Mauser G98 1914 7mm bolt-action (R)
34. Colt HBAR-15 match grade target .223 semi-auto (R)
35. Bushmaster Carbon-15 7.5” barrel P97S .223 semi-auto (P)
36. HK VP70z 9mm semi-auto (P)
37. AK .223 Romanian krinkov semi-auto (P)
38. Llama .45 minimax semi-auto (P)
39. Moisen-Nagant M44 7.62x54 bolt action (R)
40. Rossi/Puma Legacy .454 casull lever action carbine (R)
41. M.I.L.S. ThunderFive .410 / 45 long colt revolver (P)
42. M6 Springfield Armory Scout survival rifle .22 hornet/.410 (R)
43. Walther P22 Target .22 semi-auto (P)
44. GSG P5 .22 semi-auto (P)
45. Benelli M1 tactical 12ga. Semi-auto shotgun (S)
46. Para-Ordnance P10 Warthog .45 semi-auto (P)
47. Para-Ordnance P16 10mm custom conversion semi-auto (P)

(P) = pistol
(R) = rifle
(S) = shotgun

How do you store all of that stuff? :shock:
 
.Pixote. said:
DammitBoy said:
Here's my updated arsenal list

1. Thompson Center .54 cal Hawkins blackpowder (R)
2. Pennsylvania .50 cal long blackpowder rifle dixie gunworks kit (R)
3. Uberti 1873 revolver carbine .45LC single action (R)
4. Pietta .44 cal New Army Model 1858 cap and ball, single action black powder (P)
5. Uberti 1860 Army Colt .44 caliber black powder single action (P)
6. Davis .32 auto single action derringer (P)
7. Para-Ordnance P14 .45 cal semi-auto (P)
8. M1A1 Garand .308 cal semi-auto (R)
9. Mossberg 144 LSA .22 target bolt action (R)
10. SKS-45 Romanian 7.62x39 semi-auto (R)
11. Winchester Model 94 .45LC lever action (R)
12. Remington 1100 12ga. 2 3/4" semi-auto (S)
13. Remington 870 12ga. 3” pump action (S)
14. Remington Rolling Block #4 .22 single shot circa 1884 (R)
15. I.A.C. model 99 1887 coach gun side by side 20ga. (S)
16. Intratec AB-10 9mm semi-auto (P)
17. Ruger new model Blackhawk .357 7" barrel single action (P)
18. Ruger new model Blackhawk .45LC 5" barrel single action (P)
19. Ruger new model Blackhawk 30 carbine 7.5” barrel single action (P)
20. Ruger new model Super Blackhawk 44 stainless steel magnum 7.5” barrel single action (P)
21. Ruger Mark II 50th anniversary edition .22 cal semi-auto (P)
22. Ruger Mark III fluted barrel stainless steel target semi-auto (P)
23. Ruger .454 casull revolver (P)
24. Ruger single-six .22/.22 magnum Blackhawk single action (P)
25. Ruger SP101 .357 revolver (P)
26. Ruger 10/22 RBI .22 semi-auto (R)
27. Ruger Mini-14 ranch rifle .223 cal semi-auto (R)
28. Smith & Wesson 1898 break top ‘lemon squeezer’ .32SW model #1 dao (P)
29. Smith & Wesson 1906 break top 'lemon squeezer' .32SW model #2 dao (P)
30. Smith & Wesson 1915 break top 'lemon squeezer' .32SW model #3 dao (P)
31. Smith & Wesson 1918 break top 'lemon squeezer' .32SW model #3 with pearl grips dao (P)
32. Mauser 1896 'broomhandle' 9mm semi-auto (P)
33. Mauser G98 1914 7mm bolt-action (R)
34. Colt HBAR-15 match grade target .223 semi-auto (R)
35. Bushmaster Carbon-15 7.5” barrel P97S .223 semi-auto (P)
36. HK VP70z 9mm semi-auto (P)
37. AK .223 Romanian krinkov semi-auto (P)
38. Llama .45 minimax semi-auto (P)
39. Moisen-Nagant M44 7.62x54 bolt action (R)
40. Rossi/Puma Legacy .454 casull lever action carbine (R)
41. M.I.L.S. ThunderFive .410 / 45 long colt revolver (P)
42. M6 Springfield Armory Scout survival rifle .22 hornet/.410 (R)
43. Walther P22 Target .22 semi-auto (P)
44. GSG P5 .22 semi-auto (P)
45. Benelli M1 tactical 12ga. Semi-auto shotgun (S)
46. Para-Ordnance P10 Warthog .45 semi-auto (P)
47. Para-Ordnance P16 10mm custom conversion semi-auto (P)

(P) = pistol
(R) = rifle
(S) = shotgun

How do you store all of that stuff? :shock:

Store it?

Well, some are displayed on the wall or over a fireplace, some are in the gun safe, several stay where I put them for defense, like the P14 in my truck, or my Para warthog in the nightstand.

My wife keeps her ruger sp101 in her purse...

ps - more than half of those are pistols, so they really don't take up a whole lot of space.
 
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