The Last of Us 2 - Two cowgirls murdering each other's loved ones

You have to love Ellie's logic.
"I'm not going to forgive the man who called me homophobic names but said he was sorry but I will forgive the woman who killed my father figure and is not sorry about that what so ever."

10/10 masterpiece! You really captured the logic of modern millennials on Twitter Neil!
 
RangerBoo said:
You have to love Ellie's logic.
"I'm not going to forgive the man who called me homophobic names but said he was sorry but I will forgive the woman who killed my father figure and is not sorry about that what so ever."

10/10 masterpiece! You really captured the logic of modern millennials on Twitter Neil!
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Is that actually a mistake because the whole, "I don't forgive this dude" is why she spent years tracking down and trying to murder Abby. Because she had a vengeful horrific streak to her that ended up ruining both their lives.

Most normal people in the post-apocalypse don't go on John Wick revenge sprees like Ellie did but she does because she's not a "live and let live" kind of person. I don't see why they felt the need to illustrate this with a sandwich refusal but storytelling is strange that way.

Besides, she already killed Abby's dog. You really can't destroy someone further than that.

TorontoReign said:
https://kotaku.com/i-loved-the-last-of-us-2-except-for-all-the-parts-i-dee-1844238779

Look at the intended audience not being happy and fighting off their hate for the game.
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This article is hilarious because she says, "I wish I could have had a post-apocalypse walking simulator just about visiting the various places here and there."

And I'm like, "Death Stranding?"
 
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In fairness whilst Death Stranding is great, due to the nature of timefall the landscape is barely post-apocalyptic. It looks more like Iceland. It's one of the things I'd prefer for a sequel would be more traditional apocalyptic landscape to navigate since some of my favourite parts were exploring the handful of remaining city ruins
 
CT Phipps said:
Is that actually a mistake because the whole, "I don't forgive this dude" is why she spent years tracking down and trying to murder Abby. Because she had a vengeful horrific streak to her that ended up ruining both their lives.

Most normal people in the post-apocalypse don't go on John Wick revenge sprees like Ellie did but she does because she's not a "live and let live" kind of person. I don't see why they felt the need to illustrate this with a sandwich refusal but storytelling is strange that way.

Besides, she already killed Abby's dog. You really can't destroy someone further than that.
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Dude, stop making excuses for bad storytelling. She murdered her way through out this entire game that would make even Hillary Clinton blush and all of a sudden she is like, "Nah, I'm not going to kill you. Revenge bad." It is just bad. Imagine John Wick murdering his way through out the first movie and not killing the guy who killed his beloved dog. Maybe if they set up that Ellie is a forgiving person in the beginning or with her interactions with people then I would have buy it but not with how Ellie is through out 99 percent of The Last of Us 2.
 
RangerBoo said:
Dude, stop making excuses for bad storytelling.
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Don't bother trying to convince him of anything, he has made up his mind. He has pretty much twisted his point of view into thinking any negative review with legit criticism as "bullshit" and any attempt at convincing him will be met with shitty arguments fueled by butthurt because a bunch of people didn't liked his favorite game.
 
RangerBoo said:
Dude, stop making excuses for bad storytelling. She murdered her way through out this entire game that would make even Hillary Clinton blush and all of a sudden she is like, "Nah, I'm not going to kill you. Revenge bad." It is just bad. Imagine John Wick murdering his way through out the first movie and not killing the guy who killed his beloved dog. Maybe if they set up that Ellie is a forgiving person in the beginning or with her interactions with people then I would have buy it but not with how Ellie is through out 99 percent of The Last of Us 2.
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Abby spared her life twice. That would make me second guess myself.
 
RangerBoo said:
Dude, stop making excuses for bad storytelling. She murdered her way through out this entire game that would make even Hillary Clinton blush and all of a sudden she is like, "Nah, I'm not going to kill you. Revenge bad." It is just bad. Imagine John Wick murdering his way through out the first movie and not killing the guy who killed his beloved dog. Maybe if they set up that Ellie is a forgiving person in the beginning or with her interactions with people then I would have buy it but not with how Ellie is through out 99 percent of The Last of Us 2.
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"Characters can't change. That's shit writing"
 
CT Phipps said:
Abby spared her life twice. That would make me second guess myself.
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Atomic Postman said:
"Characters can't change. That's shit writing"
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There was nothing that showed that Ellie was changing and having second thoughts. You even said it yourself Phipps that Ellie is a unforgiving person. Then all of a sudden out of the blue she is like "I forgive you" after massacring her way through people through out the entire game to get to Abby. For fuck sakes! There is change and then there is inconsistency. TLoU2 is full of inconsistency. God people will stick up for pretentious art and the "Subverting Exceptions" troupe in order to make themselves look smart and cultured.
 
RangerBoo said:
There was nothing that showed that Ellie was changing and having second thoughts. You even said it yourself Phipps that Ellie is a unforgiving person. Then all of a sudden out of the blue she is like "I forgive you" after massacring her way through people through out the entire game to get to Abby. For fuck sakes! There is change and then there is inconsistency. TLoU2 is full of inconsistency. God people will stick up for pretentious art in order to make themselves look smart and cultured.
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It's not really that out of the blue.To me it felt like Ellie's entire mission in California was futile and wrong, hence the whole massive sequence dedicated to her making an ultimately irrational and wrong decision to abandon a comically idyllic family life in pursuit of retributive violence. Same thing with the pretty on the nose direct parallel between Abby and Lev and Joel and Ellie (lest we forget that Joel was also an amoral murderer of innocents prior to TLOU1)

After a hyper-violent sequence where Ellie literally has to beg for a fight from two dying people, realising she's lost basically all legitimate human value to her life for something that she can't even know Joel would want (Vs wanting Ellie to live a good life), she gives up in a sequence where she is pained and conflicted. Then the ending sequence leaves you on a bitter reminder of what that indulgence of violence ultimately cost.

That is unless you watched scenes on YouTube and kinda wanna be angry. In which case yeah it's total bullshit
 
I am noticing a correlation of people who lean to the far left thinking that this game is a masterpiece of storytelling while everyone else thinks this game is mediocre. Gee, I wonder why...
Atomic Postman said:
It's not really that out of the blue.To me it felt like Ellie's entire mission in California was futile and wrong, hence the whole massive sequence dedicated to her making an ultimately irrational and wrong decision to abandon a comically idyllic family life in pursuit of retributive violence. Same thing with the pretty on the nose direct parallel between Abby and Lev and Joel and Ellie (lest we forget that Joel was also an amoral murderer of innocents prior to TLOU1)

After a hyper-violent sequence where Ellie literally has to beg for a fight from two dying people, realising she's lost basically all legitimate human value to her life for something that she can't even know Joel would want (Vs wanting Ellie to live a good life), she gives up in a sequence where she is pained and conflicted. Then the ending sequence leaves you on a bitter reminder of what that indulgence of violence ultimately cost.

That is unless you watched scenes on YouTube and kinda wanna be angry. In which case yeah it's total bullshit
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Cry more faggot. Sorry I don't like your angry lesbian fetish simulator.
 
RangerBoo said:
I am noticing a correlation of people who lean to the far left thinking that this game is a masterpiece of storytelling while everyone else thinks this game is mediocre. Gee, I wonder why...

Cry more faggot. Sorry I don't like your angry lesbian fetish simulator.
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Not only do I not lean to the "far left" but I'm not sure why you're getting so angry about this. I'd previously assumed you were a reasonable person. I also don't think a solidly mediocre zombie story with a simple message about violence done better by Hotline Miami is a masterpiece but okay

I mean nice to see you've got literally no argument at all and in effect conceded, but still I'd expected better
 
Atomic Postman said:
Not only do I not lean to the "far left" but I'm not sure why you're getting so angry about this. I'd previously assumed you were a reasonable person.

I mean nice to see you've got literally no argument at all and in effect conceded, but still I'd expected better
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You thought wrong dumbass. I don't tolerant retardation. You gotta be like Chris Chan and tell me that I am knocked down your level of respect? I fucking hope so. I'm not the Queen Bitch for nothing.
 
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RangerBoo said:
You thought wrong dumbass. I don't tolerant retardation. You gotta be like Chris Chan and tell me that I am notched down your level of respect? I fucking hope so. I'm not the Queen Bitch for nothing.
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If it's such faggot retardation then surely you'd be able to offer an easy dunk counter argument, right?

I mean, it's not like you're posturing because you have no actual way to disagree or anything of value to say. Right?
 
Atomic Postman said:
If it's such faggot retardation then surely you'd be able to offer an easy dunk counter argument, right?

I mean, it's not like you're posturing because you have no actual way to disagree or anything of value to say. Right?
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No, I have said plenty on why this game is trash but retards like you and Phipps are like "LOL! You are just homophobic! This game is a 10/10 masterpiece!" and every time I make a counter argument on the illogical dumb shit of this game you go; "Homophobic bitch! People who hate this game are basement dwelling manbabies! This game is masterful storytelling!" or none of my counter arguments are addressed or a faggot like you comes and puts words in my mouth. Not only that but Norzan was blocked for addressing why this game is shit and anything that TorontoReign has said has also been disregard and thrown out the window. Whatever, enjoy wanking your small dick off to Neil's lesbian fetish simulator while cumming yourself dry thinking you are intelligent and cultured for liking this overrated shit pile. Nothing is going change the fact that you are still a faggot.
 
RangerBoo said:
No, I have said plenty on why this game is trash but retards like you and Phipps are like "LOL! You are just homophobic! This game is a 10/10 masterpiece!" and every time I make a counter argument on the illogical dumb shit of this game you go; "Homophobic bitch! People who hate this game are basement dwelling manbabies! This game is masterful storytelling!" or none of my counter arguments are addressed or a faggot like you comes and puts words in my mouth. Not only that but Norzan was blocked for addressing why this game is shit and anything that TorontoReign has said has also been disregard and thrown out the window. Whatever, enjoy wanking your small dick off to Neil's lesbian fetish simulator while cumming yourself dry thinking you are intelligent and cultured for liking this overrated shit pile. Nothing is going change the fact that you are still a faggot.
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"I have no argument and I must scream"

As far as concessions go this is alright. It'll do.
 
Atomic Postman said:
"I have no argument and I must scream"
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Why you just trow them out the window or call everyone that disagrees with you about this game a homophobe. Also, bullshit that you don't lean far left. Only a far left faggot will be happy with what WoTC is doing with D&D. Eat shit cocksucker.
 
RangerBoo said:
Why you just trow them out the window or call everyone that disagrees with you about this game a homophobe. Also, bullshit that you don't lean far left. Only a far left faggot will be happy with what WoTC is doing with D&D. Eat shit cocksucker.
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Except I've never called anyone a homophobe for disliking TLOU2. I've also made it pretty clear that I think DnD is a shit system and that caring what a corporation declares about a prefabbed setting is for retards. Try again.
 
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