Todd Howard and his inspiration video to gamers everywhere.

[ZigzagPX4]

Tell me quietly, guys and gals of NMA...

Is your hate of Todd Howard seriously serious or is this just some form of extreme cynical sarcasm? Because trust me, people are scared of NMA because they can't tell the difference.

 

[GlutinousRice]

Guys, guys, don't be so hard on him, he thinks math is *subjective

*still like you dude!

It's a well know fact that chess players form the most violent and virulent game community in the world, you can't blame them to be to hard.

Also math being subjective is an interesting question.

 

[Irwin John Finster]

Guys, guys, don't be so hard on him, he thinks math is *subjective

*still like you dude!

Ah yes, math. My oldest enemy.

 

[Crni Vuk]

Guys, guys, don't be so hard on him, he thinks math is *subjective

*still like you dude!

It's a well know fact that chess players form the most violent and virulent game community in the world, you can't blame them to be to hard.

Also math being subjective is an interesting question.

Well, I won't denny that getting deeply in to math can dig up some serious philosophical questions! Like Zenos Paradox, the concept/idea of Infinity, and a couple more. It is not a coinsidence that many Mathematicians, have been also philosophers. At least it was common a couple thousands years ago, where science and the school of metaphysics/philosophy have been very closely related. They came up with some questions that are hard to answer, at least without the correct tools, what is reality? What is nothing? Can nothing even really exist? What is the world made of? In recent history, like the last 2-300 years most famous mathematicians have been also at the same time students of nature, scientists, practicing physics or something similar, like Newton, Gauss, Kepler, just to name a few. To believe that it is subjective though. The first time I actually saw someone to suggest that about math. Seeing as how math is actually the most accurate scientific fields of all.

 

[Dr Fallout]

Ahem, anyway. I did not question that it was complex (or did I?) but I said that it had simplistic rules which as you state is very much true. Oh I have played against really good people, and with luck beat them once or twice (I am not speaking figuratively, they're tough), but I prefer board games or table top games with just as much strategy (I'd be loath to say more) and yet also the freedom of choice, mostly seen in tabletop games where I can configure an army best suited to a tactical objective.

 

[naossano]

Chess games lack randomness. It doesn't mean it is bad, but i love having some level on randomness in games. So i love cards/dices games better as you don't know 100% of the factors involved.

Still, chess still have a lot of factors and can provide a lot of fun.

Tell me quietly, guys and gals of NMA...

Is your hate of Todd Howard seriously serious or is this just some form of extreme cynical sarcasm? Because trust me, people are scared of NMA because they can't tell the difference.

If you spent enough time here, you would have noticed by now that newbies & Beth fanboys aren't much in trouble here UNLESS they are hostiles themselves from the get go. I am pretty sure no one here would get blamed here just for loving Fallout 3 & 4. They might if they start saying "Fallout 4 is obviously the best game and you all suck by not seing it", but not if they say "I love Fallout 4 and i will keep loving it no matter what you say"

 

[vdweller84]

If Bethesda made a chess game there would be the following:

1. Bugs. For instance, if a knight passed over a bishop during its movement, the board square colors would all be fucked up.
2. Immersive first-person view: Sure, why having to appraise the layout and tactical possibilities and outcomes of every match? Fuck that. Besides, we've got a ton of polys to shove to the newest NVIDIA GPU. Did that sound like product placement/advertising? Nah.
3. Kewl loot! Every pawn defeated drops lv.100 king's armor, plus two twoothpicks, an onion, and a 8-speed fist dildo.
4. Meaningful crafting system! Tired of those black and white squares? Now you can create whatever you wish: Laminated blue and red squares! Chrome squares! Rainbow-color squares! Octarine squares! Plus, we are introducing our patented HorseShit[SUP]TM [/SUP]technology, whith which you can create cool-looking, layered armors of warm, steamy* horse manure for all your troops! *It has to be steamy because we wrote a kewl heat distortion shader.
   
5. Award-winning storywriting. just before checkmating the opponent's king, you learn that he is actually your father. Don't you remember? His knights played with you on their laps when you were 2! You used to hang out on your Rook, over there (points at enemy rook). My bishops circumsized you, son! Now choose one of those generic and by the gods not at all similar endings!
6. Visceral combat and gun...erm...chessplay. Shoot a mere pawn's head over 126,645 times to bring it down!
7. Real time, all the time! Turns are for faggots! Right? Let all the pieces move at once!
8. Excellent modding support. Prepare for nude bishop models! Rooks with massive erections! Some modders may also fix bugs too!

Ah, well, fuck it. I'll just VATS-kill the other guy's king from where I stand. Checkmate.

 

[naossano]

Not to mention that your king/queen/knights are flagged as essential so you won't have to reload.

 

[Theinnerfish]

Not to mention that your king/queen/knights are flagged as essential so you won't have to reload.

It's hard to distinguish different pieces, what would happen if someone lost their King just because they were careless for a second?

It's best way to prevent players from losing their essential pieces only to realise (maybe many turns later) they can't win the game anymore.

 

[vdweller84]

Not to mention that your king/queen/knights are flagged as essential so you won't have to reload.

Not to mention that you will be able to actually,like,reload!

 

[ZigzagPX4]

Tell me quietly, guys and gals of NMA...

Is your hate of Todd Howard seriously serious or is this just some form of extreme cynical sarcasm? Because trust me, people are scared of NMA because they can't tell the difference.

If you spent enough time here, you would have noticed by now that newbies & Beth fanboys aren't much in trouble here UNLESS they are hostiles themselves from the get go. I am pretty sure no one here would get blamed here just for loving Fallout 3 & 4. They might if they start saying "Fallout 4 is obviously the best game and you all suck by not seing it", but not if they say "I love Fallout 4 and i will keep loving it no matter what you say"

People tend to be hostile in alien territory, though. But, yes, I have spent enough time to know the difference. I'm just seeing how anyone could mistake this entire thread for being a subtle "I hope Todd Howard's life gets screwed over" thing when it's not nearly that serious.

 

[Sergeant Politeness]

People tend to be hostile in alien territory, though. But, yes, I have spent enough time to know the difference. I'm just seeing how anyone could mistake this entire thread for being a subtle "I hope Todd Howard's life gets screwed over" thing when it's not nearly that serious.

I'm also interested to know that. It's "some form of extreme cynical sarcasm" for me, but I can't say if some people really hate him.

 

[Dr Fallout]

Tell me quietly, guys and gals of NMA...

Is your hate of Todd Howard seriously serious or is this just some form of extreme cynical sarcasm? Because trust me, people are scared of NMA because they can't tell the difference.

If you spent enough time here, you would have noticed by now that newbies & Beth fanboys aren't much in trouble here UNLESS they are hostiles themselves from the get go. I am pretty sure no one here would get blamed here just for loving Fallout 3 & 4. They might if they start saying "Fallout 4 is obviously the best game and you all suck by not seing it", but not if they say "I love Fallout 4 and i will keep loving it no matter what you say"

People tend to be hostile in alien territory, though. But, yes, I have spent enough time to know the difference. I'm just seeing how anyone could mistake this entire thread for being a subtle "I hope Todd Howard's life gets screwed over" thing when it's not nearly that serious.

Todd Howard knows what he's doing, so I couldn't say his dumb, and I bet he's nice or okay as a person.

 

[Earth]

Meh, it's not like saying I hope his life collapses will actually cause his life to collapse so...

Fuck Todd Howard. The guy's a creep. He ruined Bethesda's output and mutilated the Fallout series. He only knows how to make one kind of game: Terminator:Futureshock. The guy's a snake oil salesman with no respect for his fans or for the Elder Scrolls or Fallout series. People like him hold video games back as an artistic medium. ("Why are you complaining about Fallout 3? It's just a game."

EDIT: rants are fun now and then

 

[Crni Vuk]

Yeah, I don't have a problem with Todd as person, I don't know this guy! And he is succesfull in what he's aiming for I guess. So, you have to give him that. He knows how to sell stuff.

What I find really creepy is this ... fetish some have with Todd, like woha! There! You critisted God Howard! No one expects the spanish inquisition I guess. I would assume those people are just trolling ... but I fear ... knowing the human mind, that a lot actually really adore him ...

Seriously. I like the original Fallout 1 developers. But, puting them on some kind of pedestal? They are making games, not curing cancer while pushing space explortion and serving meals to bums on a space station.

 

[Walpknut]

I do dislike him for his influence on the Fallout series and his bold faced lies that he gets away with every time. His following of creepy fanboys doesn't help either.

 

[ZigzagPX4]

Yeah, I don't have a problem with Todd as person, I don't know this guy! And he is succesfull in what he's aiming for I guess. So, you have to give him that. He knows how to sell stuff.

What I find really creepy is this ... fetish some have with Todd, like woha! There! You critisted God Howard! No one expects the spanish inquisition I guess. I would assume those people are just trolling ... but I fear ... knowing the human mind, that a lot actually really adore him ...

Seriously. I like the original Fallout 1 developers. But, puting them on some kind of pedestal? They are making games, not curing cancer while pushing space explortion and serving meals to bums on a space station.

It's an Internet running gag - those usually get elaborate and deep, but they're still just jokes. No one actually hails Gabe Newell, or "GabeN", as a god for introducing Steam sales.

As for the anti-criticism culture - well, that exists for every series, every intellectual property, all media, all entertainment, all pieces of fiction AND non-fiction. Unavoidable. As long as humanity remains human, you won't see the "you can't say bad things about this" culture go away.

 

[Spacemunkey]

What I find really creepy is this ... fetish some have with Todd, like woha! There! You critisted God Howard! No one expects the spanish inquisition I guess. I would assume those people are just trolling ... but I fear ... knowing the human mind, that a lot actually really adore him ...

They remind me of teenage girls swearing that their favorite boy band member looked right at them. Personally I have nothing against Todd Howard, but I understand people who do seeing that both he and Pete Hines are the face of Bethesda.

 

[ZigzagPX4]

• Great games are played not made. – "You can have the greatest design document ever made, and you're going to change 90 percent of it as soon as you play the game."
• Keep it simple. – "Doing something really well takes time, more time than you think it will. Simple systems acting together create complexity that players can appreciate."
• Define the experience. – "Don't define your game by a list of bullet points… define it by the experience you want people to have."

I can see how this could be perceived as hypocrisy, but have we ever considered that it could be one of those "shoot the messenger" mistakes we're making? Like how Almir Listo took all the flak for the PAYDAY 2 Microtransactions incident, or how people always blame DICE and BioWare for EA's DLC choices?

What did Todd Howard legitimately do that makes us so sure we're not slamming the wrong person? Like, is it really his fault how Fallout 4 has turned to pandering, or the bigwigs up at Bethesda Softworks and ZeniMax itself? Do we have a quote from Todd Howard himself that shows he doesn't care? I mean, he's the executive producer and game director at Bethesda Game Studios, sure. But the games by BGS are published by Bethesda Softworks, who are in turn a subsidiary of ZeniMax Media.

And if we're going to bring Pete's tweet as an argument, Pete Hines works for Bethesda Softworks. They don't make the games, they do what EA does for BioWare. Though it was a pretty hilarious fail, considering he heads the PR for all of Bethesda's work.

 

[Crni Vuk]

Yeah, I don't have a problem with Todd as person, I don't know this guy! And he is succesfull in what he's aiming for I guess. So, you have to give him that. He knows how to sell stuff.

What I find really creepy is this ... fetish some have with Todd, like woha! There! You critisted God Howard! No one expects the spanish inquisition I guess. I would assume those people are just trolling ... but I fear ... knowing the human mind, that a lot actually really adore him ...

Seriously. I like the original Fallout 1 developers. But, puting them on some kind of pedestal? They are making games, not curing cancer while pushing space explortion and serving meals to bums on a space station.

It's an Internet running gag - those usually get elaborate and deep, but they're still just jokes. No one actually hails Gabe Newell, or "GabeN", as a god for introducing Steam sales.

As for the anti-criticism culture - well, that exists for every series, every intellectual property, all media, all entertainment, all pieces of fiction AND non-fiction. Unavoidable. As long as humanity remains human, you won't see the "you can't say bad things about this" culture go away.

I know that, don't worry. But seriously, I think it is a bit special with Todd compared to Gabe, considering the target audience of their titles and the way how their marketing is mainly focused on creating entertainment and hype. Even Todd said so much when he was having this conference in some University, they are making mainly entertainment, if I remember his words. I would say this atracts a certain kind of audience, that is simply in to that.

Like why some go to Biber concerts or gathering for the pope. The same kind of people that seek those GOTY shows, going to Blizzcon and all that. It's more about the event than the person I assume. Gabe and many others are not nearly as present like Todd is when it comes to presentations, like the last E3. But Bethesda is not the only one! Don't get me wrong! I am not judging it or saying it is a bad thing.

That's simply how AAA gaming works these days, creating marketing, hype, brands etc. And it is not unique to gaming. This happens with Windows and their conferences, Apple and showcasing new products. And people love it. So much that they start to idolize certain people - for what ever reason, as like they were gods.

Enjoying such events isn't the problem. When people start to shut down their brain, is what I find disturbing.