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thank god it failed, would not want it to turned into another al sisi in egypt
Dunno, the military coup from 1960 was actually quite good as the prime minister was taking steps to becoming an autocrat. And th elast one from 1980 resulted in the constitution they have today.thank god it failed, would not want it to turned into another al sisi in egypt
I guess it's complicated. Maybe the coup leaders had a lot of sympathizers who agreed with them, but no one was sure if they would really take their arms if things get hot. Saying, yeah Erdogan has to go! Is one thing. But to actually do something, is a whole different matter. I mean how many of us would agree that he should leave, but who would really take action? And this makes it a real gamble. Wait to long, and someone might blow the whistle or you lose support, do it to early, and you don't get full support and people will simply sit out the situation. It seems the military as a whole was simply waiting. Like, let us see what Erdogan does, if he dies or flees to a different nation, what the public will do and so on.Yea, it kinda failed. That sucks, especially for all the low level guys involved. They'll be tried for treason and executed. There's like 2800 of them, at least. I wonder why this failed? Were they dumb to try it in the first place? Not having the whole military on their side?
Sure, he will leave office one day, the qustion is just how and when .
And now the Turkish government is claiming that the US was behind the coup attempt, they've cut off power and shut down access to Incirlik Air Base, and shut down the airspace around the base, which is where the US was staging air strikes against ISIS. The base has about 5,000 USAF personnel stationed there, plus tactical nukes. If we lose that base ...The good thing is that now the conspiracy theories are bubbling up as the coup was executed very badly and gave the government the perfect excuse to cleanse the military and opposition. So this is going to be fun.
That could turn into a war, which the Turks will lose very rapidly.And now the Turkish government is claiming that the US was behind the coup attempt, they've cut off power and shut down access to Incirlik Air Base, and shut down the airspace around the base, which is where the US was staging air strikes against ISIS. The base has about 5,000 USAF personnel stationed there, plus tactical nukes. If we lose that base ...
Good times.
That could turn into a war, which the Turks will lose very rapidly.
Funny thing, since a few weeks german government officials were not allowed to visit the german soldiers stationed there (as a reaction to Germany calling the armenian genocide, well, a genocide).And now the Turkish government is claiming that the US was behind the coup attempt, they've cut off power and shut down access to Incirlik Air Base, and shut down the airspace around the base, which is where the US was staging air strikes against ISIS. The base has about 5,000 USAF personnel stationed there, plus tactical nukes. If we lose that base ...
Good times.
What would the US government gain from it politically?
Tried? Did you not see the videos and pictures? Many of those taken prisonner at the bridge were lashed with leather belts, had their throats cut and were then dumped into the river.Yea, it kinda failed. That sucks, especially for all the low level guys involved. They'll be tried for treason and executed. There's like 2800 of them, at least.
A coup in Turkey is not quite like a coup elsewhere. In Turkey, the military has been the secular protector of the people ever since Ataturk. They intervene when either religious extremism or despots threaten the state. As a result, they tend to be viewed favorably by the people.I wonder why this failed? Were they dumb to try it in the first place? Not having the whole military on their side?
Contrary to Egypt, Turkey has a long history of military coups to protect the nation. Each time, the military handed the power back to the democratic forces after peace and stability had been restored.thank god it failed, would not want it to turned into another al sisi in egypt
There was a pro-Erdogan government member on TV who spoke about what was happening. Only problem was that he was talking about stuff that hadn't actually happened yet as if it came out of a playbook.Not about to jump on the conspiracy bandwagon but this coup was so shockingly in favor of Erdogan it's as if he planned it himself.
There was a pro-Erdogan government member on TV who spoke about what was happening. Only problem was that he was talking about stuff that hadn't actually happened yet as if it came out of a playbook.
It's quite likely Erdogan's supporters knew something was up and had a plan in place.
Yep.A coup in Turkey is not quite like a coup elsewhere. In Turkey, the military has been the secular protector of the people ever since Ataturk. They intervene when either religious extremism or despots threaten the state. As a result, they tend to be viewed favorably by the people.