Unpopular Opinion and Discussion thread

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by R.Graves, Feb 21, 2017.

Is this poll pointless?

  1. Yes

    25.3%
  2. No

    11.6%
  3. INSUFFICIENT DATA FOR MEANINGFUL ANSWER

    63.2%
  1. Morgan_

    Morgan_ The Fool

    Jul 3, 2020
    Well done is simply meh to me. That being said, I'm not sure how much of an unpopular opinion fucking tight asses is.
    Instant ramen actually sucks and is one of the worst microwave foods. I am always disappointed whenever I try one.
     
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  2. WeissYohji

    WeissYohji It Wandered In From the Wastes

    175
    Nov 8, 2018
    I don't care for Lord of the Rings. I want to like it, but it's too damn long. You remember those eagles that rescued Sam and Frodo? If Gandalf was in so great with the eagles, WHY THE FUCK COULDN'T FRODO AND THE GANG FLY TO MT. DOOM INSTEAD? Why did they have to do all that damn walking? And don't try to tell me that they'd have been spotted. Legolas has a goddamn bow and can snipe enemies from above.
     
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  3. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Did you not get the plot point that the ring corrupts everyone around it and corrupts them faster the more magically inclined they are? Theres a reason frodo specifically is the ring bearer and theres a reason the fellowship falls apart so spectacularly.
     
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  4. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    The movie sadly didn't made this very clear but I think Tolkien himself made a comment on that decades ago when asked about the eagles in his story. Don't know if that was mentioned in the books though. If I remember it correctly the point with the eagles was that they have been powerfull beings. They usually don't mingle in the affairs of >mortals<. Not on the level as Gandalf did who was send to Middle Earth next to the other Wizards with the specific task to help the people of middle earth fight Sauron. It all goes as far back as the Simarilion which explains the history of Middle Earth. The reason the eagles helped Gandalf apparantly is because they still owned him some favour or something. But he can't just summon them like they are his Servants. The eagles are ruled by Gwaihir. The King of the eagles. Now look how the Kings in Lord of the Rings often act. Even in the face of destruction and doom. They are proud and don't just do what you command them. Even if it's Gandalf. So Gandalf could probably ask the Eagles and their King to do it for them but it is very likely they will say no due to the risk of loosing to many. They are not very common in Middle Earth anymore. And as powerfull as they are they can be killed. So they keep mostly to them self.

    However next to the points R.Graves made it only seems a good idea on the surface to just take the Eagles and fly to Mount Doom. Just get there quick, throw the Ring in. Right? Well. No. Because when you think about it Sauron would most likely spot them. He is searching for the Ring after all with all his power. And the Ring also wants to return to him. I imagine it would be fairly easy for Sauron to spot the eagles. Either trough Saruman or one of his Servants or what ever. And then it would be all of the power of Sauron, his Nazgul and what ever else he has against the Eagles. They wouldn't stand a chance. The whole point of the Journey was to get Frodo unoticed in to Mordor and Mount Doom.
     
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  5. WeissYohji

    WeissYohji It Wandered In From the Wastes

    175
    Nov 8, 2018
    Who said the faces had to fly directly to Mt. Doom? They could fly indirectly.
     
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  6. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Indirectly?
     
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  7. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Snug Rubber

    Sep 11, 2010
    Drunkenly stumble into Mt Doom.
     
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  8. WeissYohji

    WeissYohji It Wandered In From the Wastes

    175
    Nov 8, 2018
    Send some scouts to find the bad guys, then fly on an indirect path to the volcano, stopping occasionally to resupply. Frodo and co. would eventually reach Mt. Doom, throw the One Ring into the volcano, then fly back to the Shire and smoke a bowl or whatever it is they do there.
     
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  9. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    I don't think that's how it works ... particularly as Mount Doom and the area around it is guarded by well a large army. Besides I don't think the King of Eagles Gwaihir would have agreed to any of it.
     
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  10. WeissYohji

    WeissYohji It Wandered In From the Wastes

    175
    Nov 8, 2018
    Damn the numbers! Fly to Mt. Doom anyway instead of doing all that walking.

    Tolkien sure knew how to needlessly pad a story. Did anyone ever point out this plot hole to him when he was still alive?
     
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  11. Aurelius Of Phoenix

    Aurelius Of Phoenix Psued.

    Mar 9, 2018
    Maybe the Eagles didn't want to carry those faggots all the way to Mordor, maybe they were racist against Hobbits, maybe go fuck yourself.
     
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  12. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    Bro just fly over an army so they can shoot you down with 10 billion arrows and a dragon rider its not that big a deal bro cmon what a plothole
     
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  13. Morgan_

    Morgan_ The Fool

    Jul 3, 2020
    5head take.
     
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  14. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Well. You know. In the books they traveled for like 2 years or something. If I remember correctly.
     
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  15. WeissYohji

    WeissYohji It Wandered In From the Wastes

    175
    Nov 8, 2018
    I'm pretty sure those eagles could fly higher than the arrows can reach them.
     
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  16. Morgan_

    Morgan_ The Fool

    Jul 3, 2020
    Magic and flying enemies though. Keeping a low profile was deemed neccesary. Sauron and Saurman had vague ideas of where the ring was and only got locations when Frodo put it on. Flying is the fastest and riskiest way to get there.
     
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  17. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Arrows yes ...
     
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  18. R.Graves

    R.Graves Confirmed Retard

    Apr 21, 2016
    I dont know how she forgot about the dragons when i specifically mentioned them. Its almost like shes being intellectually dishonest or something.
     
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  19. Norzan

    Norzan Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Apr 7, 2017
    Wasn't the entire point of walking to Mt. Doom to avoid attention? Sauron has the Nazguls and a bunch of other agents that are actively looking for the ring, a bunch of people flying on giant ass eagles would be incredibly easy to locate and in turn make you an huge target.
     
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  20. Morgan_

    Morgan_ The Fool

    Jul 3, 2020
    It's like half the people in the convo aren't reading whats being said wtf :lol:
     
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