What are people's thoughts on how the Brotherhood is depicted in 3 and 4?

MaxStories said:
Okay, listen here dude Just because somebody doesn't think like you doesnt mean that person is trolling I played fallout 1,2,tactics,3,4 and new vegas. While you may think I am a moron for not thinking like you, I am serious. Name me one thing fallout 3 did wrong about the lore. Vault 87 is explained, BOS is explained, like literaly everything. Maybe you can complain about the caps, drugs and running ghouls but those are all gameplay elements that also appear in new vegas and are not meant to be taken very seriously. Fallout 3 is a great game that Bethesda actually cared about, unlike their other games. It is weird how none of you can see that. Don't get triggered, because honestly its sad that grown men can get so mad becausea game franchise changed. It is sad to getmadabout things like that.
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Not even mad. Feel free to express your thoughts; I actually don't mind that people like 3, I only mind attempts at forcing people to like 3 and handwave arguments of 3's flaws. Plus people have discussed 3's lorebreaks to death on this forum so I couldn't be bothered (plus I have better things to do than engage with a 3 fanboy).

Generally, most people that express liking of 3 on the site with poor grammar and excessive handwaving turn out to be trolls that merely login once and never come back.
 
MaxStories said:
Okay, listen here dude Just because somebody doesn't think like you doesnt mean that person is trolling I played fallout 1,2,tactics,3,4 and new vegas. While you may think I am a moron for not thinking like you, I am serious. Name me one thing fallout 3 did wrong about the lore. Vault 87 is explained, BOS is explained, like literaly everything. Maybe you can complain about the caps, drugs and running ghouls but those are all gameplay elements that also appear in new vegas and are not meant to be taken very seriously. Fallout 3 is a great game that Bethesda actually cared about, unlike their other games. It is weird how none of you can see that. Don't get triggered, because honestly its sad that grown men can get so mad becausea game franchise changed. It is sad to getmadabout things like that.
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No offense, but saying the forum is "triggered" and that grown men are mad over a game isn't helping your case when you say you're not looking to troll.
 
Oh lordy, another one that just joins this forum to tells us we (at least the ones who despise Fallout 3) are basically wrong and says why we can't "see" how Fallout 3 is actually good.

Nope, i have seen all of it unfortunately, Fallout 3 is still a miserable excuse for a Fallout game.
 
CerberusGate said:
Not even that. It just states generic platitudes on why 3 is good rather than going into detail properly or saying something original.
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It has been discussed a lot why it is good, do you really want to me to waste my life trying to explain something to you that you will reject nonotheless?
Plus I am not biased bethesda fanboy, I hate their decisions about fallout now and all the lore breaking,,and I generaly despise elder scrolls because I think people give it too much credit. But fallout 3 was actually pretty good to me, and I think they did a fine job of merging the old lore with the new and reviving the franchise. It allowed new vegas to be made, you all forget that!
 
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So much for accusing me of being triggered. 8-)

Seems it got triggered instead based on the triple post.
MaxStories said:
But fallout 3 was actually pretty good to me, and I think they did a fine job of merging the old lore with the new and reviving the franchise. It allowed new vegas to be made, you all forget that!
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No one brought up 3 reviving interest in the franchise that led to NV so far (though I would credit 3 for bring Fallout to the public eye for better and definitely for worse) plus people are judging 3 on its merits rather than its contributions.

Plus as @Risewild stated, he can list out 3's issues.
 
CerberusGate said:
So much for accusing me of being triggered. 8-)

Seems it got triggered instead based on the triple post.

No one brought up 3 reviving interest in the franchise that led to NV so far (though I would credit 3 for bring Fallout to the public eye for better and definitely for worse) plus people are judging 3 on its merits rather than its contributions.

Plus as @Risewild stated, he can list out 3's issues.
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Dude don't insult me, I did not know that triple post was against the rules and I also did not say you are triggered, I said that in general its sad that adults get mad because sonebody thinks different about a game. There is a reason why this site is considered toxic, I did not make that up.You refferening to me as "it" is really out of place and agressive for no reason.
 
MaxStories said:
Dude don't insult me
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If you thought what I said was an insult, you have very low standards for insults.

MaxStories said:
I said that in general its sad that adults get mad because sonebody thinks different about a game.
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Well I guess you've missed what I've said so far then so let me spell it out in a picture then
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As for people being mad, you're not wrong but there's also nothing you can actually do about it. Going around mocking people over being mad is certainly useless as that won't change anything either.

Again, I don't care that you like 3 (others might but there's that). In fact, more power to you for your own opinion. It's just pointless to go around claiming people are wrong for not having the exact same opinion.

MaxStories said:
There is a reason why this site is considered toxic...
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Like @Big No pointed out, for someone claiming not wanting to troll, you seem way too aggressive in labeling the site rather than interacting with minimal hostility. Plus the toxic claims for the site is exaggerated, at most people here are very direct and have seen every excuse used to prop 3 as a superb game (along with knowing how flimsy each excuse tends to be).

Oh and one more thing:
MaxStories said:
I am not biased bethesda fanboy
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Yes, you are. Direct denial only makes it more obvious.
 
CerberusGate said:
Not even that. It just states generic platitudes on why 3 is good rather than going into detail properly or saying something original.
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Given that he said all of the points manyatruenerd were true, even though someone made a video correcting him on a lot of stuff and Jogre in the thread of that video in this forum also corrected him on a ton of stuff he got wrong, just leads me to believe he's a Fallout 3 fanboy.

I also can't take anyone who says "Fallout 3 didn't break lore" seriously when it broke as much, or probably more, lore than Fallout 4.

I do not even know what his goal even is. To change our minds? We have dissected this game and seen everything to the minute detail, nothing anyone will say will change our minds on this game, at least it won't change mine.
 
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Remember this MaxStories is the same person that thinks nuking megaton is most complex quest of all of the whole fallout series. He also thinks that this is the quest that made F3 more than a fallout game and made it art. You people are not going to win anything by arguing with this guy.
 
ironmask said:
You people are not going to win anything by arguing with this guy.
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Well duh. That Power of Atom thread kinda indicates as much. And seriously, nuking Megaton is complex? ...All it does is shift your go-to-town to one of the other settlements and in terms of story consequence, not much.

Its posts and behaviour are akin to all the trolls of the same MO. Eventually, it'll leave the site either by going inactive or making a shitshow of it like that Helloitme.
 
Considering Fallout 3 was my first Fallout game I played, I don't know. They feel very bland, what's with being isolated to DC and sitting their butts on their place, until PC comes and triggers few one-of-a-lifetime-events, where you get to assist them killing super mutants. They don't really showcase of keeping things safe or help other wastelanders. They also can be killed with 3 clips of 10mm pistol, with default 15 small guns skill. The only really disguintishable thing out of other people is that they have power armor and have it perk restricted, but considering the game uses Damage Resistance, it's only slightly better compared to other armor and humping Med-X.

But consider that I played Fallout 3 first time as 10 year old, I didn't care much about anything about Fallout 3, other than it was one of the first wasteland survival sandbox open world RPG games where you can go where you want, and do whatever you want. Unfortunately, the reality is harsh:
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