What BoS division do you speculate is in Boston?

The T-51b actually looks crappier and junkier than the T-45d in Fallout 3 and New Vegas. And I think the T-45d actually looks good on the Fallout 3 GOTY edition cover art, so its not really a bad design, just bad modeling and animation.
 
Can't agree with T45 looking better. T-45 looks like a bulky tin can, lots of rough edges and exposed joints, while T51 looks like a proper armor, smooth, everything is nicely protected save for some piping on the helmet.
When it comes to Midwest BoS armor, it is easily my favorite one. It speaks "badass" with every inch of its plating. And it fits them like a glove, it looks very intimidating, which is exactly what a raider-squashing, mutant-eradicating, robot-recycling fascist organization/state needs.
 
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Can't agree with T45 looking better. T-45 looks like a bulky tin can, lots of rough edges and exposed joints, while T51 looks like a proper armor, smooth, everything is nicely protected save for some piping on the helmet.
When it comes to Midwest BoS armor, it is easily my favorite one. It speaks "badass" with every inch of its plating. And it fits them like a glove, it looks very intimidating, which is exactly what a raider-squashing, mutant-eradicating, robot-recycling fascist organization/state needs.
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The T45d has a much better looking helmet IMO. The 51b helmet is a bit goofy looking, where the T45d is more intimidating which is why I suspect Bethesda uses it more.
 
Or they use it more because it is their own design. Have you noticed how they have redesigned pretty much *all* weapons and armor with F3? It's clear they did not want to keep anything the way it was before. Even monsters and animals got redesigned big time.
Which is funny, on one hand they cram all the F1/2 stuff they can, no matter if it fits or not (BoS, Enclave, water quest, GECK, Harold, Super Mutants) but on the other visually they must have it their way.
 
I prefer the BoS not to be a main faction in Fallout 4, and even not in the game at all. But because this game begins a few months after the beginning of Fallout 3, I predict the BoS in the Commonwealth will be midwest BoS plus descendants of the lost airship crews.

At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if Bethesda were to set a Fallout in former New Orleans and put in a new chapter of the BoS and a new group super mutants.
 
In all honesty? Lyon's Brotherhood. The game is set just a few scant months after FO3, so I more than expect Lyon's Brotherhood to pop up. If it's the Midwest Brotherhood, I'd be legitimately surprised, but I don't see it happening. As for the Enclave? yeah, I totally except them to pop back up as well given that Broken Steel more or less confirmed that they're still out there.
 
Gaddes what you said is probably what I am speculating deep down as well, unfortunately. I am doubtful of the Enclave being a major faction however in Fallout 4. Here is why,

We see two different airships in Fallout 4, one definitely belonging to the BoS 'Prydwen', and we see a airship in the concept art with the player character, a bos soldier, and Preston Garvey. It is not the same airship as the Prydwen, but it is just concept art, and we really don't know how many airships are in the game. We also look at the BoS access of vertibirds, they have them, and it looks like a lot of them.

So where does that leave the Enclave in Fallout 4? I feel like for the Enclave to be a major faction in Fallout 4 they would haft to have at very least the same tech/power as the BoS. Anyway I am not speculating that the Enclave will be in Fallout 4, maybe remnants.

DC is closer to Boston then Chicago. The seeds that were planted in Fallout 3 with the institute among other things, it very well could be the DC division. However, like The Pre War Hub said in their speculation video, Lyon's would not have had time to construct a airship or airship/s, and travel from DC to Boston in time for the events of Fallout 4. The airship we see in the gameplay trailer is what appears to be a carrier, its a well armored beast. Its not a quickly thrown together airship, it seems to be a carrier for vertibirds, but that is speculation.

A branch of the West or Midwest division could have been making their way to Boston during the events of Fallout 3.

Also, in Fallout 3 the BoS wear T-45, we see the BoS mainly in T-60 both in concept art and in game with Fallout 4. We see a lot of variety of power armor in Fallout 4 obviously, but T-60 is suggested as the main set of power armor for the BoS in F4. They also threw in F2/NV's MK II power armor which is my favorite but that is neither here nor their.

Then as PossibleCabbage and the Pre War Hub stated, the Institute is in Boston, a very high tech area. The BoS seem to be rolling up into Boston with a hint of aggression and or have already setup shop before or around the time you leave your vault.

Over all, please don't be Lyon's.
 
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Oh, I do agree Sai that there has been some solid speculation towards the Mid-West Brotherhood, but it would certainly be odd that had mentions to them in FO3 as being a small, rouge outfit, to have them suddenly pop back up as a major player a few months later. I'd be curious to know what the story behind the T-60 is though.
 
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Oh, I do agree Sai that there has been some solid speculation towards the Mid-West Brotherhood, but it would certainly be odd that had mentions to them in FO3 as being a small, rouge outfit, to have them suddenly pop back up as a major player a few months later. I'd be curious to know what the story behind the T-60 is though.
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Funny enough Rothchild also mentions Lyon's being a small division as well. Then says that the rest of the BoS should still be in the West coast, or he assumes as they have not been in contact for 7 years.

However, Rothchild is only assuming about the Midwest, assuming they are still a smaller division. Hopefully that was intended because Fallout Tactics begins around 2200, and Fallout 3 begins around 2280. The midwest also recruited everyone, and everything in Tactics, so that would be interesting to see reavers, deathclaws, and super mutants as BoS in Fallout 4.

Then on a more realistic speculation

We know the bombs hit October 23rd 2077, but we do not know for sure when the player character emerges from the vault in Fallout 4. Speculations from The Pre War Hub speculate that F4 could take place a few weeks after Fallout 3, but possibly around the same time as Broken Steel, maybe.

Dr. Lee also leaves 2 weeks later after the events of the main quest of Fallout 3 for the commonwealth. Then Bethesda mentioning the seeds they grew in Fallout 3 for Boston. Then they also throw in how they are wanting to do something fresh and new.

With all things speculated, I am really at a 50 50, I think its either the Midwest or East Coast division in Boston. The Midwest symbol, Chicago midwest division mention in F3, the airship, the T-60 armor not T-45 (not that T-60 was in Tactics).

I am at a 50 50, 50% its the East Coast Lyon's division themselves, and 50% that it is the Midwest or West Coast division.
 
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Gaddes said:
Oh, I do agree Sai that there has been some solid speculation towards the Mid-West Brotherhood, but it would certainly be odd that had mentions to them in FO3 as being a small, rouge outfit, to have them suddenly pop back up as a major player a few months later. I'd be curious to know what the story behind the T-60 is though.
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Funny enough Rothchild also mentions Lyon's being a small division as well. Then says that the rest of the BoS should still be in the West coast, or he assumes as they have not been in contact for 7 years.

However, Rothchild is only assuming about the Midwest, assuming they are still a smaller division. Hopefully that was intended because Fallout Tactics begins around 2200, and Fallout 3 begins around 2280. The midwest also recruited everyone, and everything in Tactics, so that would be interesting to see reavers, deathclaws, and super mutants as BoS in Fallout 4.

Then on a more realistic speculation

We know the bombs hit October 23rd 2077, but we do not know for sure when the player character emerges from the vault in Fallout 4. Speculations from The Pre War Hub speculate that F4 could take place a few weeks after Fallout 3, but possibly around the same time as Broken Steel, maybe.

Dr. Lee also leaves 2 weeks later after the events of the main quest of Fallout 3 for the commonwealth. Then Bethesda mentioning the seeds they grew in Fallout 3 for Boston. Then they also throw in how they are wanting to do something fresh and new.

With all things speculated, I am really at a 50 50, I think its either the Midwest or East Coast division in Boston. The Midwest symbol, Chicago midwest division mention in F3, the airship, the T-60 armor not T-45 (not that T-60 was in Tactics).

I am at a 50 50, 50% its the East Coast Lyon's division themselves, and 50% that it is the Midwest or West Coast division.
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All solid speculation in my book. As for the T-60? I kinda get the feeling it's a "New Fallout, New Power Armor" deal.
 
Immurzshive speculation:
After the events in Broken Steel the DC Brotherhood send expedition to Chicago (using vertibirds) to contact the midwestern chapter, told them about the institute (since they knew of it from doctor Li) and helped them rebuild the airship(s). Then they went to Boston to liberate the poor people and androids from the (for no reason) evil institute/ enclave base and to use its technology to save the world or whatever. And based on the blue laser/ orbital bombardment from the trailer i presume that they also managed to fix the Liberty Prime´s optics using all those cameras, then something MacGuffin something got it to orbit and instaled it on the B.O.M.B station/ enclave satelite from Broken steel so they could use it as a superweapon because.... i dunno, ´mursive splosions?

Oh, and the Enclave also abducted the protagonists wife and kid and holds then in cryo pods in the Institute. During the final battle when the Liberty satelite blows up the main door and the protagonist finds out that he was androind all along and that his memories were downloaded from the cryo box (omg such plot twist!). Then inside the institute he finds out that the Enclave once again build FEV something and he has to sacrifice either his wife or child to save the world.
And lets not forget the opportunity for "Forget Steel" DLC with Enclave invasion from their secret base in Chicago.

So basicaly, its both midwestern and DC BoS.
 
I'm willing to bet it's the BOS vs. The Institute and you can side with one or the other, since you can call in Vertibirds and they've shown you attacking the BOS in gameplay.
 
I hope Bethesda didn't take the criticism of the Brotherhood in Fallout 3 being too goody-goody too harshly and have them become Enclave: Part 2.

They can make for good villains, but they shouldn't do the Snidely Whiplash thing.
 
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MKSaibot said:
Gaddes said:
Oh, I do agree Sai that there has been some solid speculation towards the Mid-West Brotherhood, but it would certainly be odd that had mentions to them in FO3 as being a small, rouge outfit, to have them suddenly pop back up as a major player a few months later. I'd be curious to know what the story behind the T-60 is though.
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Funny enough Rothchild also mentions Lyon's being a small division as well. Then says that the rest of the BoS should still be in the West coast, or he assumes as they have not been in contact for 7 years.

However, Rothchild is only assuming about the Midwest, assuming they are still a smaller division. Hopefully that was intended because Fallout Tactics begins around 2200, and Fallout 3 begins around 2280. The midwest also recruited everyone, and everything in Tactics, so that would be interesting to see reavers, deathclaws, and super mutants as BoS in Fallout 4.

Then on a more realistic speculation

We know the bombs hit October 23rd 2077, but we do not know for sure when the player character emerges from the vault in Fallout 4. Speculations from The Pre War Hub speculate that F4 could take place a few weeks after Fallout 3, but possibly around the same time as Broken Steel, maybe.

Dr. Lee also leaves 2 weeks later after the events of the main quest of Fallout 3 for the commonwealth. Then Bethesda mentioning the seeds they grew in Fallout 3 for Boston. Then they also throw in how they are wanting to do something fresh and new.

With all things speculated, I am really at a 50 50, I think its either the Midwest or East Coast division in Boston. The Midwest symbol, Chicago midwest division mention in F3, the airship, the T-60 armor not T-45 (not that T-60 was in Tactics).

I am at a 50 50, 50% its the East Coast Lyon's division themselves, and 50% that it is the Midwest or West Coast division.
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All solid speculation in my book. As for the T-60? I kinda get the feeling it's a "New Fallout, New Power Armor" deal.
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T-60 imo is a modernized T-45. Worse than T-51, but better than T-45.

Sort of like M26 Pershing --> M46 Patton.
 
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