What suddenly no longer exists

Pinkolik said:
9/11 never happened. It was just a big hoax. There weren't any "Twin Towers". It was just a cover-up to start elimination of Muslims so called "terrorist" allegedly doing attacks on western people for a community called Alkaida which never existed. This really surprised me when I found that out.
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Wait, apart from "truth-ism", some people claim it never happened???
 
zegh8578 said:
Not too sound like too much of an armchair psychologist - I think that mentality comes straight from home, and starts at an early age, when the brain begins to sort out the difference between fiction and fact, what is what.
Me, when I was a toddler, and asked why the sky is blue, my mother would tell me the exact truth to HER best ability "Eh.......... well.... it has to do with... vapor, or something... I have NO idea, maybe it says in the encyclopedia... ?"
With this, I learned a valuable lesson - for life - that authority (my mom at the time) does not have the answers SIMPLY by being an authority. Authority, confidence, loudness, does not equal holding answers. I learned that answers are often hard to find, they require effort, and they may take a long time to explain.

Compare to some parents who actually joke a question away; why is the sky blue? "Because you're stupid! HARDY HAR!" This kills curiousity, and you get these dipshits who never even wonder about what or why or where, clueless for life, and fine with it.

Or the worst culprit - when daddy has ALLLL the answers. ALL of them - with authority and with confidence: "The sky is blue because God made it blue. Now eat your dinner."
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I never liked that kind of mentality. I'm a dumb shit, but I know I am. I'll leave the explaining of things to the scientists, and when while browsing through vice or motherboard or some dumb other popular science related webzine I'll just assume that the people who did all the research on whatever know better than I will ever know.

zegh8578 said:
Rip your dick off? Like plucking a flower. Rip your face off? It would probably have to grab on hard, and make a little effort
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What chimps do to your face.

Pinkolik said:
According to this source not just some people believe it never happened but they are the vast majority.
http://www.debate.org/opinions/did-9-11-really-happen
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Motherfucking NO. Jeez. I thought we were over this 9/11 conspiracy thing.

Also this.
 
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Aaand not to back-bench-moderate, but that's probably an image you should spoiler tag :D Not everyone has had the pleasure of aquanting themselves with face-less humans yet :V

Similar image in a docu about bears. Man, fuck bears. I love bears, but shit on them man, I'll enjoy a bear in a photo, or through a telescopic lens (to watch, I'm not gonna shoot it or anything, I'm not a savage)
In the docu, this guy was explaining how he was studying bears, and a bear at a distance was studying him back. GO HOME MAN, YOU'RE IN BEAR-LAND NOW!
Too late, the bear begun to gallop towards him, at 50 kmph or something, idunno what it translates to in mph, but basically from there to here in a fucking instant - and what could mr. scientist do? Scream. Piss himself. I mean, no, he tried to fight the bear with his arms. The bear more or less bit them off "fuck your arms dude", then proceded to bite half his face off.
Just... off, man... off
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Oh, and then it just dropped him, and left him alone

I love animals
but no :I
 
zegh8578 said:
Most of them look like joke-replies though, but I guess a seed has been planted!
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Yeah, I know. But isn't this thread a joke? I mean, it looks like it. So I tried being ironic. I'm sorry if I misunderstood the actual idea of this topic :lol:
 
Pinkolik said:
Yeah, I know. But isn't this thread a joke? I mean, it looks like it. So I tried being ironic. I'm sorry if I misunderstood the actual idea of this topic :lol:
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Don't make me analyze and pick apart the literary effects that I used in my thread >:I
The topic is serious, but I used humor and exaggeration to make it entertaining. There. ARE YOU HAPPY!?

As in, just a month ago I first found out that some people DO insist that HIV/AIDS does not exist, again: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HIV/AIDS_denialism
This topic was featured amongst other in a Spanish debate show (where I first came across it), and where one side of the panel were fuming at the other side (more than usual), because they consisted of doctors who had been treating dying AIDS-patients - facing buffoons going "you don't know that for sure :0" "I... what... o_-"
 
Not the most appropriate thread (well, it would be if you'd consider "intelligence" or "education" to be something that doesn't exist anymore), but here's a funny article:
http://vtdigger.org/2016/02/18/entergy-stores-contaminated-vermont-yankee-water-in-swimming-pools/
Or rather, the article isn't that funny, but the comments.
Holy shit, the comments.
So. Much. Bullshit.
Now I'm not an expert in terms of nuclear sutff, but I do have a MSc. in physics, and I handled nuclear materials and had several lectures on nuclear hazards. I understand nuclear radiation.
Unlike, i.e., Joe Perry, who claims to be a "retired Nuclear CPO", whatever that is, who thinks that gamma radiation is the radiation that is easiest to shield, or that it's the most important radiation coming from Tritium.
Fuck, every single comment under that article gives me more cancer than any amount of radioactive material could ever give me.
Seriously, I don't see a single physically correct comment under that article.
What the fuck is wrong with our education that this is apparently acceptable?
 
Internet has 1. Given everyone a voice, and 2. Made them believe that this voice of theirs matters.
I am no expert in nuclear physics, but I notice this _immediately_ when reading about stuff I *do* know, such as biology. It is amazing to see what people think is still a matter of debate, such as, well, evolution.

The sad thing is that dogmatism is not a thing of the past. All you need to kick evolution in the balls is a face of anger. That's all - just go ">:I" and physically start kicking everyone who promotes evolution. It is ALWAYS a matter of debate. Flat earth - a matter of debate. The sun, a matter of debate. The only counter argument needed, is a strong leg, and a hard boot, aimed right for delicate testicles (or boobs, if the opponent is a woman. Being kicked in the boobs has to hurt)
The scientific mind is typically opposed to using ball/boob-kicks as its argument, and is inevitably doomed to fail against such tactics.

The more dogmatic the society, the more of a "godless heathen" the scientist, and the more screwed we all are...
 
I believe in both God and evolution. I don't see why both sides can't just get along instead of flinging shit at one another over an issue that affects neither side. A lot of Christians seem to think Evolution is an attack on their way of life and an attack on the Bible, when it is not. A lot of Athiests think that Evolution proves there's no God, when it does not. A lot of things involving evolution and the Bible coincide. The original Bible anyway, not the new "revised" versions.

I wish people could just get along instead of having mile long arguments over it. It's annoying, tedious, and ruins pretty much any comment section in the history of ever once it gets started. Then again, I don't think humanity as a whole has ever gotten along. Even during times of peace we're simply gearing up for another war.

Also sorry if I just derailed the topic even further from its original intent.
 
Hmmm, there isn't an explicit ideological battle between Evolution and Religion (or at least there shouldn't be one) after all only blind idiots would let faith override fact; I think most religious people just allow science to override the parts of their religion that don't make sense however, a problem arises when people do the opposite and begin yelling that all scientists are heathens, those people are unimportant idiots who should be ignored as the worst kind of religious fanatic but again otherwise religions all cool baby.
 
Izak said:
Hmmm, there isn't an explicit ideological battle between Evolution and Religion (or at least there shouldn't be one) after all only blind idiots would let faith override fact; I think most religious people just allow science to override the parts of their religion that don't make sense however, a problem arises when people do the opposite and begin yelling that all scientists are heathens, those people are unimportant idiots who should be ignored as the worst kind of religious fanatic but again otherwise religions all cool baby.
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I'm not sure if you live in the US or not, but here there is a huge battle between Evolutionists and Fundamentalists. It's a very big deal. And science doesn't really override parts of any religion unless people think it so. They can both coexist peacefully. Well, at least when it comes to Christianity VS Science that is. I'm sure a lot of people would disagree with me there, but having studied both and working towards becoming a Literature/Education major, I see nothing wrong with believing in both the Bible and the Theory of Evolution. They compliment each other very well if people would actually pay attention rather than flinging shit over thinking one is absolutely right over the other.
 
I agree completely, I'm just saying that I think the problem has been blown out of proportion by a loud, ignorant minority. I imagine most people who follow some form of theology would rather consolidate fact and faith rather than mindlessly defend ideas that have been disproven, as some religions do like the Seventh-Day adventists or Scientologists for example.
 
Izak said:
I agree completely, I'm just saying that I think the problem has been blown out of proportion by a loud, ignorant minority. I imagine most people who follow some form of theology would rather consolidate fact and faith rather than mindlessly defend ideas that have been disproven, as some religions do like the Seventh-Day adventists or Scientologists for example.
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Lol is Scientology a thing anymore? After all the shit they've done? If they're still a prominent "religion" then that's really sad. They're worst than Westboro Baptists and Jehovah's Witnesses.
 
Ragemage said:
Lol is Scientology a thing anymore? After all the shit they've done? If they're still a prominent "religion" then that's really sad. They're worst than Westboro Baptists and Jehovah's Witnesses.
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That is what I was refering to before, I wasn't talking about religion in general - but dogmatic mindsets, "What we say is true, because we say it (or because we will become violent if you deny our truth)"
 
Ragemage said:
Lol is Scientology a thing anymore? After all the shit they've done? If they're still a prominent "religion" then that's really sad. They're worst than Westboro Baptists and Jehovah's Witnesses.
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Scientologists are still bumping around somewhere, praising Xandu and trying to fish souls out of volcanoes or whatever they're religions supposed to be about.
 
Izak said:
Scientologists are still bumping around somewhere, praising Xandu and trying to fish souls out of volcanoes or whatever they're religions supposed to be about.
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The funny thing is, no one actually knows the true definition of what Scientology stands for. The reason? You have to pay them literally thousands of dollars and then they'll take you to some secret headquarters or some such bullshit and there you'll be revealed the "meaning of life". The truth of the matter is they just use all the money they get from the idiots following them to fund celebrities so more will join. Why do you think people like Will Smith and Tom Cruise are reported Scientologists? It's because the Church of Scientology gives them literally millions of dollars worth of presents so they'll stay in the cult and promote it to their fans, thus gaining more memberships.
 
When you base a religion around blackmail, lies and, celebrity culture it's unlikely that you'll come out with a startlingly good idea on the purpose of living.
 
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