What's Trump up to now?

MutantScalper said:
messed up Katrina, ...
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Oh, there was plenty of blame to go around for Katrina, it's just that the press and the left went all-out to pin every single bit of it on George W. Bush. Yes, there were problems with his response to it; OTOH, Bush can't really be held accountable for, among other things -
  • Corrupt, incompetent and uncooperative state and local officials such as Ray Nagin (mayor of NOLA) and Kathleen Blanco (the governor of LA).
  • The failure of the levee system protecting New Orleans.
The second one, in particular, was the main reason why the impact of the storm was so catastrophic for New Orleans. The levee system was not designed to withstand the storm surge Katrina produced, and for that matter was substandard for the storm it was designed for. Add to that the graft and corruption and outright theft surrounding the construction and maintenance of the levees, and it was just a matter of when, not if, it would fail.

The city infrastructure itself sustained only minor damage from the storm itself - the shit hit the fan later on when the levees breached. Compare that to what happened in the same storm to coastal Mississippi, where literally entire communities were washed out to sea. But no one ever mentions them - hell, I'll bet only one in ten Americans even know that Mississippi was affected by Katrina at all.

Much of the groundwork that led up to that took place before George W. Bush was even born.
 
TorontRayne said:
It's hard to know what to expect from President Elect Trump as far as national security is concerned. Europe isn't too pleased that is for sure.
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Mike Pompeo will be awesome though, he will do tremendious things, I tell you! So tremendious.
You're going to see so much surveillance. He's going to do surveillance. He's going to do surveillance so much. He's going to surveil at the US citizens , he's going to surveil at the Europeans. He's going to do so much, you’re going to be so sick and tired of surveillance, you’re going to come to him and go ‘Please, please, we can’t see surveilance anymore.’ You’ve heard this one. You’ll say ‘Please, Mr. President, we beg you sir, we don’t want surveillance anymore. It’s too much. It’s not fair. And he's going to say ‘I’m sorry, but we’re going to keep surveil, surveil, surveil, We’re going to make torture great again.
Oh, he’s got torture methods, I tell you. He knows more about torture in his finger than these other people. Europeans I think, are they Europeans? Or Muslims? I don't know. But it will be tremendious, I tell you!
 
Crni Vuk said:
Mike Pompeo will be awesome though, he will do tremendious things, I tell you! So tremendious.
You're going to see so much surveillance. He's going to do surveillance. He's going to do surveillance so much. He's going to surveil at the US citizens , he's going to surveil at the Europeans. He's going to do so much, you’re going to be so sick and tired of surveillance, you’re going to come to him and go ‘Please, please, we can’t see surveilance anymore.’ You’ve heard this one. You’ll say ‘Please, Mr. President, we beg you sir, we don’t want surveillance anymore. It’s too much. It’s not fair. And he's going to say ‘I’m sorry, but we’re going to keep surveil, surveil, surveil, We’re going to make torture great again.
Oh, he’s got torture methods, I tell you. He knows more about torture in his finger than these other people. Europeans I think, are they Europeans? Or Muslims? I don't know. But it will be tremendious, I tell you!
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Legitimately made me chuckle, have a like.
 
Draining the swamp.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...the-trump-kleptocracy/?utm_term=.1c04cfe4139f

“It’s very possible that I could be the first presidential candidate to run and make money on it,” Donald Trump said back in 2000 when he was contemplating a bid that he never followed through on. And while he didn’t actually turn a profit on his 2016 run, it’s looking more and more likely that being president is going to be very lucrative for Trump. By the time it’s over, he may even be worth as much as he has always claimed to be.


The words “conflict of interest” don’t begin to describe what the Trump administration is shaping up to look like — though there will be plenty of conflicts of interest with administration figures such as Rudy Giuliani, who made millions from foreign governments and corporations, some of which are hostile to the United States. But the real action is going to be in Trump’s own family.
(...)
 
By the way, that quote is not from Einstein, and it is also not the definition of insanity. Kinda fits ...

Vergil said:
>still believing without question the mainstream media
hey anyone got the definition of insanity real quick?
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So ... what do you call it when Trump gives his family members those positions, handing out seats to 'old' Republicans and getting lobbyists into the white house?
 
MutantScalper said:
Cut taxes for the rich and made a mess of them, .
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I meant Dubya cut taxes for the rich, fixed.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_tax_cuts

That could be a 'traditional' thing expected of Trump as well, that's what Republicans are known as, the 'tax cut for the rich' -party. Although with Dubya, he created huge costs for US with wars etc. and then put in place those tax cuts so that the rich wouldn't have to take part in paying for them. Nice. If Trump were to only lower taxes for the rich in US then it would be a relief for most folks. However it seems like he might have something more apocalyptic in mind, a new war, ban abortion or something.

Shardik said:
Oh, there was plenty of blame to go around for Katrina, it's just that the press and the left went all-out to pin every single bit of it on George W. Bush. Yes, there were problems with his response to it; OTOH, Bush can't really be held accountable for, among other things -
  • Corrupt, incompetent and uncooperative state and local officials such as Ray Nagin (mayor of NOLA) and Kathleen Blanco (the governor of LA).
  • The failure of the levee system protecting New Orleans.
The second one, in particular, was the main reason why the impact of the storm was so catastrophic for New Orleans. The levee system was not designed to withstand the storm surge Katrina produced, and for that matter was substandard for the storm it was designed for. Add to that the graft and corruption and outright theft surrounding the construction and maintenance of the levees, and it was just a matter of when, not if, it would fail.

The city infrastructure itself sustained only minor damage from the storm itself - the shit hit the fan later on when the levees breached. Compare that to what happened in the same storm to coastal Mississippi, where literally entire communities were washed out to sea. But no one ever mentions them - hell, I'll bet only one in ten Americans even know that Mississippi was affected by Katrina at all.

Much of the groundwork that led up to that took place before George W. Bush was even born.
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The general feel that I had about Katrina was that the average poor mostly black folks were pretty much abandoned for several days (5 days?) after the storm and had to somehow survive on their own. Had it been rich white folks then the national military had been there the same day of the storm.

On another board I read some stuff a guy from Lousiana wrote about the police over there during Katrina and at other times. The cops there are very out of control, committing murders etc. and trying to, sometimes successfully, cover up for it etc.
 
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It's still a bit funny to denounce people ''following mainstream media without question'', then linking Fox News and fucking Breitbart as sources. I mean, for pete's sake, in the case of the latter the conflict of interests doesn't even need to be explained nor as they even remotely bothering to hide it. I mean, not saying the Post is super 100% reliable, but you're not exactly practicing what you preach there man.

I also don't believe for a second Trump will be draining any significant swamps. He's not gonna run the country alone. He needs the Republican establishment, he needs to have buddies in Congresss, he needs to be chum with myriads of lobbyists. It's not going to be any different from any other administration; no one is a superman. No one can rule a country with so many divergent interests as the US while not plunging headfirst into the establishment's game. I really think people who truly believe Trump can be above it all are deluding themselves, and the very fact he has total Republicans warhaws lining up for foreign policy tells me everything I need to know about how non-partisan his transition is, and how much he ''doesn't owe anyone anything''.
 
Ilosar said:
It's still a bit funny to denounce people ''following mainstream media without question'', then linking Fox News and fucking Breitbart as sources. I mean, for pete's sake, in the case of the latter the conflict of interests doesn't even need to be explained nor as they even remotely bothering to hide it. I mean, not saying the Post is super 100% reliable, but you're not exactly practicing what you preach there man.
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That's why I used multiple sources to show it's reliable information because it's multiple different sources that are from left to right on the political spectrum and all say the same thing.
 
Well, the core message is that Pence threw a lot of people out. That's all you can really read from it. But they will need a lot of those 'people', be it lobbyists or old time republicans, to get something done. What ever if the population likes this or not.
According to the Wall-Street Journal:

Trump's aides were also apparently unaware that the entire staff of the president working in the White House's West Wing would need to be replaced, according to The Journal.

Obama reportedly will spend more time counseling Trump about the presidency than most presidents do with their successors.​

The point is, it's very unlikely that Trump alone without any prior experience either from the military or politics will be capable to govern the office, which means that he will need a lot of people that are used with the establishment and and how things go in Washington. What many people believe, and I tend to agree, is that Trump won't drain the swamp, he will simply replace it with a different one. I mean it's impossble to get the establishment out as a 'whole', we're talking about thousands of people and who knows how many corporations that sit in Washington, and they will all silently move because Trump or Pence say it?
 
Melania and the kid Barron aren't going to live in the White House. Secret service protection for them then where ever they decide to prance around. Same with the other Trump kids, I guess? Who are in charge of the so called "blind trust" and of course Trump will forget his investments and not to do inside deals etc. while prez. Sure.
 
It almost seems like they think they are too good for the White House, or little Trump is a titty baby. Either that or Melanie wants nothing to do with this shit, which from the way she has been treated I can understand.
 
My thoughts are that this is better suited for one of the billion Trump threads already present.
So the question is, do I roll it into the calm one or the angry one?
My guess is the calm one.
 
PlanHex said:
My thought are that this is better suited for one of Trump threads already present on the forum.
So the question is, do I roll it into the calm one or the angry one?
My guess is the calm one.
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Wow, you ninja'd your post in while I was already merging the threads.
Doomsdaypreppe
r, I know you're hellbent on creating at least one new thread every week, but we seriously don't need a new thread for everything Trump does. This one is perfectly fine.
 
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