What's your ancestry?

Discussion in 'General Discussion Forum' started by zegh8578, Mar 9, 2016.

  1. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Woha, @The Vault Dweller 's ancestry is like a buffet! You can chose what ever falvour you like the most :D
     
  2. The Vault Dweller

    The Vault Dweller always looking for water.

    Aug 24, 2004
    I totally agree no one should feel guilt for something they didn't do personally, but everyone takes history seriously and they can't seem to differentiate themselves if their "identity" is part of a group that did anything at any point in history.

    Yeah just don't try to eat me please. :smile:
     
  3. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    As a Norwegian, I guess I should feel really guilty about all those Celtic lives we destroyed a thousand years ago.
    Why not? What's the "shelf life" of guilt?
    In reality, we tend to laugh at it. We're usually just contrasting it to how peaceful we are today, "lol, we were so terrible!", yes, we were, enslaved people, destroyed lives, pillaged... "pillage" is a word, kindov like "collateral damage", it sounds so simple "pillage" but contains so much horror and gruesomeness :D
    We were really awful. I bet over a million people cried because of us :V
     
  4. GlutinousRice

    GlutinousRice Ne travaillez jamais

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    Nov 7, 2015
    That must feel good.
     
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  5. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Collective guilt? Lemme tell you about collective guilt...
     
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  6. Juza The Cloud

    Juza The Cloud Nanto Goshasei

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    Jun 3, 2015
    Mostly but not limited to Greek, Italian, Basque, Spanish, and a dash of Persian based off of saliva/DNA testing nonsense.
     
  7. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    I dated a German chick once. I joked once about the whole guilt thing, and she almost broke out in tears, or she DID break out in tears, I don't remember. She was very sensitive though, and I never joked to her about nazis again :I
     
  8. BlackbirdX4

    BlackbirdX4 Northern Bred ~~~ Your Favorite Bastard

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    Mar 10, 2016
    Wait, seriously? Taking the racial guilt thing a little serious can be considered stupid, but sensible giving the world we live in. You know, as in "my ancestors were wrong, and did wrong, and I know that now. And while I am an individual I still feel bad for what was done". Which people in no way should feel bad for that. That's like being a Muslim and blaming yourself for 9/11, despite having no terrorist affiliations or sympathy. But seeing how this world is, as But breaking out in tears over the guilt thing man, that's just crazy. Even then though, some people might still feel connected to it in some minor way, and I guess that's understandable.

    But breaking out in tears? Just, come on, man.
     
  9. Illuminati Confirmed!

    Illuminati Confirmed! Banned

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    Dec 15, 2015
    If only it was just the women. About a week ago I came across a German dude who started crying when I told him that the Shoah wasn't his fault and that he shouldn't feel guilty about it. I read online that Germans were brainwashed with this shit, but I didn't think it was that bad.
     
  10. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake. Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Those are rather extreme cases, though, it's not that bad.
    Although I did have a student of history scold me for using the proverb "To each his own" because that proverb was written over the gate to KZ Buchenwald...
    People are sensitive, but actually crying over it? No.
    Wouldn't say we're brainwashed, either. The Third Reich is a large part of our school's history curriculum, but it's not as bad as people like to make it out to be.
     
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  11. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    However, you should try not to tell to many jokes about jews while your class is visiting a museum about the hollocaust.
    Try to limit your self to jokes about black people.
     
  12. Cimmerian Nights

    Cimmerian Nights So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2004
    I don't know about that, I used to work with a dude from Germany, he was quite sillly. He'd get all serious if the subject of the war came up and he'd say,
    Ben: It's not funny man, my grandfather died in the war.
    Us: Oh shit, sorry Ben.
    Ben: Yeah, on the last day of the war.
    Us: Oh jeez, that's really tragic.
    Ben: Yeah, he fell out of the guard tower at the concentration camp.

    I don't know that this says anything about Germans as a whole, he got a lot of mileage out of that one though.
     
  13. BlackbirdX4

    BlackbirdX4 Northern Bred ~~~ Your Favorite Bastard

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    Mar 10, 2016
    This sounds like a reasonable and logical person who realizes they shouldn't fret over something they neither had nothing to do with, nor could do anything about. Judging by the nature of the joke, he's probably is pissed about people from other nations feeling like modern generation Germans should take responsibility for what the pre-Baby Boomer-era German Generation did. Can't blame him.
     
  14. Dr Fallout

    Dr Fallout Centurion

    Aug 17, 2015
    Germans crying are why Holocaust denial movements are popular. They want to 'end' the suffering in a different manner, by showing a guilt free way out.
     
  15. Cimmerian Nights

    Cimmerian Nights So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs

    Aug 20, 2004
    It's not a subject I can say I really delve into at all, but I wouldn't say that holocaust denial is exclusively German. It seems to have some appeal and traction in other ideologies and religions that already have antisemitic proclivities. Not too hard to figure out who.

    Nah, I don't think there was any greater context, he was just the kind of person that loves telling inappropriate jokes, that was the most remarkable thing about him actually, he was tireless really. His only aim was to generate laughter. I just mention it as he was not brainwashed nor did he treat it like some taboo.


    In terms of ancestry, I'm a clean slate. I was born in the US, but was adopted from birth. I'm liberated by all this ancestral guilt and pride. Grew up in a Irish-French American home. I am also Japanese by marriage.
     
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  16. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    Good. This thread is not about guilt NOR pride. It's about genealogy, curiousity, biology and knowledge.
    No more veering this threat towards wether or not white-guilt OR holocaust is real. Sheesh...
     
  17. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Guys, the truth is that most people in Germany don't give a rats ass about the Hollocaust, the Jews or what ever. Yes, there are many who have some interest in Hitler, his goons and the Nazis, because honestly, it is a fascinating topic, the violence and war, how they rose to power and that. But guilt? Almost NO German feels that. Picking out extreme examples where some oversensitive person is crying, is as usefull like pointing at the most xenophobe muslim hating Texan redneck with confederate flags and two machineguns in the back of his trunk and saying, yep! 'Murrica right there.
     
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  18. zegh8578

    zegh8578 Keeper of the trout Orderite

    Mar 11, 2012
    The crying chick also cried to "requiem for a dream", loudly, sobbing, sniffing, needing some time to recover. I was very surprised
    So yes, very sensitive :D
    Now, back to topic, your turn Crni, with your considerable contribution in the thread so far :D
     
  19. Akratus

    Akratus Bleep bloop.

    May 14, 2011
    Born in Friesland, on one side my family can be traced back in part to Italy, and the rest is a mystery or just germanic roots. So like 1-10% italian, 10-90% germanic, the rest is lost to the sands of time.
     
  20. MutantScalper

    MutantScalper Мутанты не допускаются

    Nov 22, 2009
    If you want, you could do one of those DNA-heritage analyses. Some firms on the net provide them. I think it costs like hundred-couple hundred bucks and you get a cool analysis about your genetic blue print.