Where will the next Fallout take place?

[TorontoReign]

I thought I would spice this thread up a bit with a few ideas. Here are a few pics of the area around Northern Michigan. I would like to see the Northern Lights in a Fallout setting. It would be nice to have a wide variety of weather types, and the Northern US would do that well.
I would hate for the game to have too much snow though, so they would have to change some of the environments up a bit. Maybe have one area that is more rainy, and another area that gets no precipitation to speak of. I would hate for them to simply add snow and that be it. I think it should be done carefully, but if done right it would be a welcome change of scenery.
I liked the way New Vegas did the environments. Each area felt like it was actually part of the world. I believed that the Great Kahns lived in those canyons. The red rock contrasted nicely with the rest of the wastes. Jacobstown actually looked like a ski resort. It even had a bunch of trees that you couldn't see anywhere else in the mojave. Fallout 3 was a little more drab, but we have discussed that plenty of times.
Fallout 4 needs a new look. It would be nice if they took the series north. I would be curious to see what Wyoming and Montana would look like personally. Can you imagine the wildlife? I get excited just thinking about it.

 

[WillisPDunlevey]

I love all the empty lots in that pic... definitely a good representation of detroit outside the downtown area.

Its hard to tell from the picture, but it looks like the it was taken a bit north and west of Mexican town (south west detroit)... kind of a bad area.

All the houses are gone because someone burnt them down during the height of Devils Night fires (yeah they really happen... though not like in the Crow)

 

[TorontoReign]

I love all the empty lots in that pic... definitely a good representation of detroit outside the downtown area.

Its hard to tell from the picture, but it looks like the it was taken a bit north and west of Mexican town (south west detroit)... kind of a bad area.

All the houses are gone because someone burnt them down during the height of Devils Night fires (yeah they really happen... though not like in the Crow)

The first one is Northern Michigan. Yeah I researched that Devils Night thing before. It is what inspired me to work on a Fallout: Detroit in the first place! Great material to work with. I bet you 100 caps Detroit is in one of the next 3 Fallout games. I see Bethesda milking it for all it's worth so......

Here is a pic of 1950's Detroit.




P.S: I found some Detroit pictures of Steel Mills, Auto Factories, and the like. They looked exactly like some of the interior locations from the FNV Factories.

 

[The Dutch Ghost]

After checking Google Maps again I think Denver would still make a good location for another Fallout by Obsidian.

Already some work was already made for this location, nearby Boulder and Colorado Springs/Cheyenne Mountain complex and they could expand on it.

 

[TorontoReign]

I agree. The Canadian border is right across the Detroit River. Lots of potential. Here is the general area I am working with.

 

[Seasick]

I really hope it's in Alaska. Could add some White to Fallout's color pallet, expand on the China story, and I really like Albino Deathclaws and Foggy/Snowy Atmospheres.

 

[TorontoReign]

They have hinted at Toronto, Chicago, and Boston so far. I think any one of those would be fairly unique. Will the Commonwealth make an appearance in Fallout 4? Will they fall back on the old Enclave-in-Chicago plotline? Will they Resurrect the Midwest BOS? Will we ever learn about those pesky Canadian Freedom Fighters? What about the areas that were mentioned in FNV like Mexico and Colorado?

 

[Seasick]

I actually think an area like London would work. It'd give Bethesda a chance to do something other than 'Awesome Powerful Good Guys who love petting Bunnies and Hand-feeding Hobos vs. The Cliche Bad Guys.' Well, not really....I guess I just want them to improve on the storytelling.

 

[Oppen]

I actually think an area like London would work. It'd give Bethesda a chance to do something other than 'Awesome Powerful Good Guys who love petting Bunnies and Hand-feeding Hobos vs. The Cliche Bad Guys.' Well, not really....I guess I just want them to improve on the storytelling.

At least they'll be unable to mess with the main plotline

 

[Ohaimerk]

Ozark Plateau would be pretty cool. Tons of sharp rocky cliffs that are small enough to walk up the side but big enough to be interesting. If it weren't for the trees it'd be like if the environment from the first part of Honest Hearts were scaled down and thrown into the middle of the mojave. As it is today it's a bit like a mix of some parts of the mojave of new vegas and the forest from the first half of metal gear solid 3

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The worldmap and locations, more or less.

Not that impressive until you notice the scale of the cliffs compared to the cars next to them

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[Knight Captain Kerr]

I would love the big easy but we are probably going to have the commonwealth as the setting of the next game.

 

[shihonage]

Bethesda may be already working on the next Fallout game. Regardless of whether it will be good or not, where do you think the next game will take place?

In Moldova.

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Sorry.

 

[Seasick]

I actually think an area like London would work. It'd give Bethesda a chance to do something other than 'Awesome Powerful Good Guys who love petting Bunnies and Hand-feeding Hobos vs. The Cliche Bad Guys.' Well, not really....I guess I just want them to improve on the storytelling.

At least they'll be unable to mess with the main plotline

I can see Bethesda doing it now.


Project Leader: Okay, what's a good idea for a main plot?

Employee: OH! OH! Yeah, let's make the BIG BAD ENCLAVE come in and search for a...a...hmm....a NUCLEAR LASER HIDDEN FIVE BILLION KAJILLION FEET BELOW THE LONDON CLOCKTOWER! Uh...Uh... OH! And then, LIBERTY PRIME COMES BACK TO LIFE AND FLIES IN! AND...AND...BATMAN COMES IN AND BUILDS A BAT CAVE IN BUCKINGHAM PALACE! OH, AND WE'LL PUT CURRENT MUSIC IN THERE!

Project Leader: Approved! We'll get to work right away!

Employee: YAY!

 

[TorontoReign]

I actually think an area like London would work. It'd give Bethesda a chance to do something other than 'Awesome Powerful Good Guys who love petting Bunnies and Hand-feeding Hobos vs. The Cliche Bad Guys.' Well, not really....I guess I just want them to improve on the storytelling.

I am not so sure about them taking the series overseas. It would be very easy to screw it up, and Fallout is about "Americana". Canada or Mexico would be ok though. I think they have plenty of American cities to use before they need to worry about a overseas title.

Ozark Plateau would be pretty cool. Tons of sharp rocky cliffs that are small enough to walk up the side but big enough to be interesting. If it weren't for the trees it'd be like if the environment from the first part of Honest Hearts were scaled down and thrown into the middle of the mojave. As it is today it's a bit like a mix of some parts of the mojave of new vegas and the forest from the first half of metal gear solid 3

I could see this happening, but what would be the main city? I think they have to something besides the environment to stick out; some kind of monument that is a symbol of USA - Maybe Branson or Little Rock? I think that would make a good DLC possibly. There would be a large variety of wildlife that's for sure.

I would love the big easy but we are probably going to have the commonwealth as the setting of the next game.

I think the Commonwealth may be interesting, but Bethesda stands a chance of screwing it up. It would give us a chance to see Boston, so that would be pretty cool, but if they focus too much on Androids, I am worried it will get too ridiculous.

 

[Surf Solar]

Why must every new game suddenly revolve around a single city now?

 

[TorontoReign]

Why must every new game suddenly revolve around a single city now?

Fallout- LA
Fallout2- San Francisco, Reno
Fallout Tactics- Chicago
Fallout 3- Washington Dc
Fallout New Vegas- Las Vegas

There are more than that of course, but you get the point. Every game has a city that is considered a main-hub. Of course the city doesn't have to be in the title, but I think every Fallout has stuck to that formula. I won't mention that other game......

Every Fallout has had at least one city that is known around the world. Everyone has heard of Washington D.C, Las Vegas, San Francisco, and L.A...

 

[Surf Solar]

Why must every new game suddenly revolve around a single city now?

Fallout- LA
Fallout2- San Francisco, Reno
Fallout Tactics- Chicago

How are these games revolving around those cities? They are mere towns/cities amongst so many others unnamed on the map.

How is the Boneyard the Mainhub in Fallout 1? It isn't. How is Reno or San Francisco the Mainhub? It isn't either. This is what I meant, those new games stay in one city and its surrounding and that's it. It is very boring.

To me it completely trivializes the actual size and emptiness of the destroyed world, when all see is a compressed form of some city - and you are doing the originals no good trying to fit those in into this formula.

 

[TorontoReign]

Why must every new game suddenly revolve around a single city now?

Fallout- LA
Fallout2- San Francisco, Reno
Fallout Tactics- Chicago

How are these games revolving around those cities? They are mere towns/cities amongst so many others unnamed on the map.

How is the Boneyard the Mainhub in Fallout 1? It isn't. How is Reno or San Francisco the Mainhub? It isn't either. This is what I meant, those new games stay in one city and its surrounding and that's it. It is very boring.

To me it completely trivializes the actual size and emptiness of the destroyed world, when all see is a compressed form of some city - and you are doing the originals no good trying to fit those in into this formula.

I never said that the games revolved around those cities for one, you said that, but I am sorry if it sounded that way. I said that they all have recognizable/popular cities. True that they weren't all main hubs, but I am saying that the stories are focused on locations/cities. You visit these locations to get quests, so they have to be unique and memorable. Some are more memorable than others. It makes sense to want to see different environments, and how they would have changed due to an atomic war. I am just curious where the next story will take place. I personally think the Great Lakes Area would be unique and it would make sense in the setting. The Great Lakes are the largest fresh water suppliers in the USA. Choose by geographical location if you like, but it is essentially the same thing:

Fallout1 and 2- California area/West Coast
Fallout Tactics- Midwest
Fallout3- US Capitol/East Coast
Fallout New Vegas- Nevada area/West Coast

Am I wrong? Regardless one city in each game will be considered "Americana" or something to that effect. If it is in Missouri or Arkansas then logically it will have a familiar city right? The series is based on American culture and that is represented in the cities of the country. They have to touch on the world before the war, or you lose sight of what Fallout is all about. The original Fallout didn't focus on the Boneyard, but you knew it was L.A, and it was easily one of my more favorite locations, of course Junktown was great, but that was a post-War city. When I think of Fallout 2 I automatically think NCR, Enclave, New Reno, San Francisco. Not everyone loved New Reno, but it is memorable right? No you don't even have to go there, but most people remember it. San Francisco was an important town in Fallout 2 too. It had the best shops in the game I think.

Fallout 3's DLC featured a popular city known for it's industry, Pittsburgh, so is it illogical to wonder what city will pop up next? Essentially the areas I would like to see are the Northern or Southern parts of the US. We have seen both coasts, so I want to see more of the country. If they made a Fallout in Texas do you think they would leave out Austin or Dallas? Those cities would probably show up, because most expect a familiar location to be represented, and twisted through a post apocalyptic environment. It is logical to wonder how Chicago looks after Fallout Tactics. It is obvious that any Fallout Title featuring the Commonwealth would probably have Boston in it right? Any Fallout game that takes place in certain areas will probably have recognizable landmarks of some sort.

I don't understand how I am trivializing anything? I think you may be misunderstanding what I'm trying to say. I have played the fuck out of all the Fallout games, so I know what they are about. I am merely wondering where the next title will take place. Maybe I'm way off base?

Edit: I can see how my post may lead you to think that when referring to main-hubs.... I added a few things to better represent what I was attempting to say...

 

[Surf Solar]

Why must every new game suddenly revolve around a single city now?

Fallout- LA
Fallout2- San Francisco, Reno
Fallout Tactics- Chicago

How are these games revolving around those cities? They are mere towns/cities amongst so many others unnamed on the map.

How is the Boneyard the Mainhub in Fallout 1? It isn't. How is Reno or San Francisco the Mainhub? It isn't either. This is what I meant, those new games stay in one city and its surrounding and that's it. It is very boring.

To me it completely trivializes the actual size and emptiness of the destroyed world, when all see is a compressed form of some city - and you are doing the originals no good trying to fit those in into this formula.

I never said that the games revolved around those cities for one, you said that, but I am sorry if it sounded that way. I said that they all have recognizable/popular cities. True that they weren't all main hubs, but I am saying that the stories are focused on locations. You visit these locations to get quests, so they have to be unique and memorable. It makes sense to want to see different environments, and how they would have changed due to an atomic war. I am just curious where the next story will take place. I personally think the Great Lakes Area would be unique and it would make sense in the setting. The Great Lakes are the largest fresh water suppliers in the USA. Choose by geographical location if you like, but it is essentially the same thing:

Fallout1 and 2- California area/West Coast
Fallout Tactics- Midwest
Fallout3- US Capitol/East Coast
Fallout New Vegas- Nevada area/West Coast

Am I wrong? Regardless one city in each game will be considered "Americana" or something to that effect. If it is in Missouri or Arkansas then logically it will have a familiar city right? The series is based on American culture and that is represented in the cities of the country. They have to touch on the world before the war, or you lose sight of what Fallout is all about. I don't understand how I am trivializing anything? I think you may be misunderstanding what I'm trying to say. I have played the fuck out of all the Fallout games, so I know what they are about. I am merely wondering where the next title will take place. Maybe I'm way off base?

Nah, it's ok. To me it just sounded "I want the next Fallout game to be like Fallout 3's Washington or New Vegas' Vegas - centered around these cities with nothing more" - which to me is boring and very different to the worldmap in the older titles. ;

As said earlier, I too find that the great lakes area is interesting, hence why I've set my game there.

 

[EvilBastrd]

I like the idea of Detroit and Chicago. If the game world could be large enough to include both cities and areas in between, that would be spectacular. Can even have woodlands and snow.

Then a DLC could be Windsor.

For old factions that can tie previous games together and add to lore and canon:

MWBoS.
CWBoS-expanding west
Enclave-NOT Rehashed FO2 FO3 Enclave, but one with a different ideology and NOT the "bad guy".
Talon Company
FoTA-pilgramige east

New factions: slavers, merchants, industrious types, maybe even some union like faction, if in detroit.