Which states or cities would make good locations for a future Fallout game

I don't think there would be any Neo Britannia out there. There would probably be British survivors and there might even be some new civilizations on the British Isles but I think it would be far more likely that they would focus their interests and resources on mainland Europe rather than a continent an ocean away from them.
The post apocalyptic Brits probably have other thoughts on their mind than get even with the descendants of upstart Yanks they lost a war with more than three or four centuries ago.

More like I see them competing with any French and German survivors for any habitable land that can be cultivated.
 
Irredentism doesn't always make sense, and the decisions that stateheads take with regards to their nations' next actions don't always make sense either.

It could even have nothing to do with irredentism and just have the same utility of trying to gain more power and resources than neighbouring powers the way that colonialism actually worked in real life. If they're busy competing with a theoretical "Neue Bundesrepublik Deutschland" and another equally theoretical "Napoleon's Legion Of Honour", travelling across the Atlantic and attempting to find new resources in lands that may be either uncontested or currently held by powers which they can simply steamroll over, may not seem like a very bad idea.
 
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Ironically, I feel like Hawaii would be one of the few place probably untouched or barely touched by the nukes because it doesn't have as much importance to the US and its so far away from the main land. Not trying to disrespect Hawaiians or anything like that, I'm just saying that what would anyone have to gain by nuking Hawaii?

But it's close to Asia. I'd imagine the Fallout version of Hawaii would be even more chock full of military bases than it is IRL - an important strategic asset and refueling/re-supplying depot between the mainland and the war front in China. If we did want the Fallout series to go to Asia (which I honestly can't see happening, given the America-centric nature of the setting), Hawaii would be a logical bridge. I think Fallout: Oahu is a lot more likely, and in keeping with the setting, than Fallout: Seoul.

I agree Hawaii probably escaped the worst of the devastation, although between the wind and the ocean, plenty of radioactive material probably found its way there, leading to unique mutations. Because it's so remote, it would be interesting to see what kind of societies emerge there, and with all the prewar weapons lying around, each island could be a separate little fortress, each warring against each other not unlike the ancient Hawaiian kingdoms.

And if a powerful faction on the mainland was aware of Hawaii's existence, imagine the motivation for getting there: a fertile land, almost untouched by the scars of the war, and sitting on a gold mine of prewar military tech. I could imagine a Brotherhood outpost or the NCR trying to fix up an old ocean liner or a submarine (or just using a Vertibird) and sending there out on a scouting mission. The vessel gets shot down by one of the local factions and everyone on board dies except the player character, who emerges and must make their way through the islands.

And who knows, maybe groups in Asia or Australia or elsewhere have also heard rumors of this paradise and also want to seize it for themselves?

To be completely honest I can see making a lot of sense. Things I would probably add to this is maybe some enclave soldiers are residing there, going along with your military bases idea, this would make sense. I feel like it would be kinda cool to see them that their weakest point and reevaluating their strategies, maybe deciding to reform and start helping people now that they're so weak. Besides that it would be possible to have a vault or two with only the richest or well off allowed to go. I doubt the BoS would be able to make it at this point, at least they wouldn't in force so probably a hand full of them would actually make it to Hawaii by some sort of small boat. If they wanted to pull the whole, all ending happened or only the neutral ending happened in NV then it would make even more sense for the NCR to head out west to Hawaii because it would allow them to look for more resources instead of trying to move out east to face the remnants of Caesar's Legion or trying to waste men taking over NV. Hawaii would be harder to get to, but would probably, be less risky on resources than trying to take over NV. On top of that, since only on or two of the old factions would be able to make it out to Hawaii, we'd be able to see some new factions and ideals. During the war, its possible that some Asian countries sent a few platoons of men to assess and possibly attack Hawaii only to be cut of from the main land after the bombs drop. Also we can see what sort of civilian stragglers were left on the island after the bombs feel as well.

The only thing would miss is the Super Mutants and Deathclaws. Its doubtful they would be there, maybe the deathclaws would be there, but only if the Enclave was there first because they could control them. I won't miss many of the other creatures you wouldn't see because I'd be far more interested in what else could possibly be lurking there. Maybe some beaches with ocean dwelling monsters coming up for a fight or fresh river ones as well. Maybe some outrageous dragon like creature exist here because of the volcanoes and mutation lol I don't.
 
Maybe some beaches with ocean dwelling monsters coming up for a fight or fresh river ones as well. Maybe some outrageous dragon like creature exist here because of the volcanoes and mutation lol I don't.

"You walk through the dense forest, tired and sweating from the humid heat beating off of your head. After several minutes crawling past trees and dangerous rocky slopes do you find a river of water, leading downward to the ocean. You can't wait to drink cold, fresh water until you hear a powerful snort and growl across the river, what appears to be a male Rad-Hog, his six tusks sharp as spears, his tufts of hair on his spine bristling like needles and his size almost as big as a car. If it wasn't for the river, you'd have to deal with that beast charging and gorging you till nothing remains but red Swiss cheese. The Hog glares at you for a bit before deciding you're not worth his time and leans his head to drink down water, only to have the next event be even more startling. The 'boulder' that was resting in the middle of the river shivers and comes to life, revealing to be a Deathmaw, A toad with an appetite for anything that moves and a size to fit it. The large amphibian ambushes the boar, leaping out of the water and lashing out a powerful tongue, grabbing the shrieking creature before it pulls it in and chomps down, devouring it in quick gulps. The fat toad then turns around slowly, it's eyes blinking just as slow towards it's next meal: You. The beast makes a quick short leap to shorten the distance between you and it, shaking the very ground as it slams back down to earth, while you turn around and make a run for it, hoping the trees will buy you some time as the toad is heard crashing through them, snapping them like twigs. Welcome to Hawaii, kid. It's one HELL of a Paradise."
 
Maybe some beaches with ocean dwelling monsters coming up for a fight or fresh river ones as well. Maybe some outrageous dragon like creature exist here because of the volcanoes and mutation lol I don't.

"You walk through the dense forest, tired and sweating from the humid heat beating off of your head. After several minutes crawling past trees and dangerous rocky slopes do you find a river of water, leading downward to the ocean. You can't wait to drink cold, fresh water until you hear a powerful snort and growl across the river, what appears to be a male Rad-Hog, his six tusks sharp as spears, his tufts of hair on his spine bristling like needles and his size almost as big as a car. If it wasn't for the river, you'd have to deal with that beast charging and gorging you till nothing remains but red Swiss cheese. The Hog glares at you for a bit before deciding you're not worth his time and leans his head to drink down water, only to have the next event be even more startling. The 'boulder' that was resting in the middle of the river shivers and comes to life, revealing to be a Deathmaw, A toad with an appetite for anything that moves and a size to fit it. The large amphibian ambushes the boar, leaping out of the water and lashing out a powerful tongue, grabbing the shrieking creature before it pulls it in and chomps down, devouring it in quick gulps. The fat toad then turns around slowly, it's eyes blinking just as slow towards it's next meal: You. The beast makes a quick short leap to shorten the distance between you and it, shaking the very ground as it slams back down to earth, while you turn around and make a run for it, hoping the trees will buy you some time as the toad is heard crashing through them, snapping them like twigs. Welcome to Hawaii, kid. It's one HELL of a Paradise."

MMM that makes me want to do a good roleplay of this situation and is it sad that I heard the last line in threedogs voice. xD
 
I still think a Fallout game would be amazing as a sort of thematic mix of The Oregon Trail and Road Warrior. The goal would be to get to the forests of Oregon for some mythic oasis. I guess this wound up being the premise for Fury Road?
 
How about Florida? Fighting through ruined Miami at one point, at another fighting through swamps with mutant gators on your tail.
 
I'd personally love to see somebody do something with the whole Bushranger thing if there was ever a Fallout: New Ballarat game.
 
How about Florida? Fighting through ruined Miami at one point, at another fighting through swamps with mutant gators on your tail.
Yeah that would be really nice to walk through radiated half-dead palm trees under Miami sun. Developers can also think up many cool interiors like old dancing clubs. Oh and maybe there should be an underwater vault, I don't remember this in previous fallouts.
 
Why would they need to be mutant gators? Regular gators are dangerous as fuck already. Why does everyone's ideas for fallout consist of adding "mutated" and "Irradiated" to things regardless of how pointless or unnecesary such adjectives are to a lot of things?
 
Why would they need to be mutant gators? Regular gators are dangerous as fuck already. Why does everyone's ideas for fallout consist of adding "mutated" and "Irradiated" to things regardless of how pointless or unnecesary such adjectives are to a lot of things?

Although gators under normal circumstances would be difficult to handle without the right know how, you have to think about the fact that many of the weapons you can get in game would easily tear one up. Besides that, many of the creatures in game have either been mutated/irradiated or spliced to be immune (or at least resistant to) radation. One of the few animal in game that is not really better or worse because of it being radiated is Yao Guai. Everything else I can think of from radroaches to mire/lakelurks are only a threat because of their mutation.
 
Pretty sure a regular Aligator would be dangerous enough. Also there are unmutated dogs and coyotesroaming around, I just don't get this "MUTAN EVERYTHING" "IRRADIATED SOFTBALLS!" stuff as the go to idea or go to INCREDIBLE ELEMENT! Pretty superficial.
 
Pretty sure the unique Legendary Boat fly worked. Why not an irradiated unique Legendary gator ? It fits fine, stop being overly hyperbolic your not doing your arguments and favors.
 
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Hyperbole? Most people just like the "irrdiated X" thing because it sounds cool. It kind of goes without saying that most people have rather limited imaginations and they mostly care about "COOOLNESSSSS" when thinking up stories rather than actually stopping and thinking it through, I mean there is a reason for Fallout 3 being so popular. It's built upon that same principle.
 
What about a spin on "irradiated/Mutated X" by finding out that a local species of animal is actually going extinct after the war because of deformities and cancer product of their envirorment getting irradiated and all of those dying animals with deformities actually being a major issue for a nearby community because of them dying and tainting their water sources and the like?
 
I actually think New York could work really well.

"But wait!" I can hear you saying. "Surely it will be an irradiated pit?" Precisely.

New York gets bombed to absolute smithereens- large swathes of Manhattan Island are underwater, while the rest is literally a glowing crater, only not flooding thanks to the walls raised up by the explosions, and the wreckage of skyscrapers. But the pit is not empty- it is inhabited by utterly alien life forms. Mainly massive descendants of radioteophic fungi, roaches, sewer gators, rats, and others. All are completely and utterly mutated beyond what they once were, creating a totally alien ecosystem right here on earth. And, crawling out of the rubble, comes hundreds of ghouls. In the radiation filled zone, they find themselves in a veritable paradise.

time goes on. A ghoul city state has emerged, based around the old world values of Democracy, and rule of law... With a twist. It only applies to ghouls. Initially, human populations which survived in endless sewers, metros and vaults attempted to wage war on the ghouls. But they lost- badly. They were enslaved, made to do work for the ghouls, with children being indoctrinated and ghoulified.

this practice has spread beyond subterranean human farms, with slaves being captured from the outer boroughs. The Lyons BoS, which has devolved into a cult, but this time honoring the memory of Lyons himself as a messiah believing that they must spread His memory as well as the sacrifice and resurrection of the Wanderer to the whole world, has formed a reluctant deal with the ghoulies who provide massive quantities of steel from fallen sky scrapers (and the melted puddles thereof). Meanwhile, a charismatic warlord attempts to rally the Burroughs against the ghouls, and commit a mass genocide.

locations: The Burroughs: Something like Fiend territory, lots of burnt out shells of buildings, except people have begun to rebuild off of them, nature has begun to reclaim it, and people have established farming communities. There are population centers, but they are separated by perilous areas of Raiders and Tribals. Must communities are built around scrapping, which they used to trade to the Institute, but there prices simply can not compete with the Manhattanite slavery, leading to economic depression, and therefore desperation. Many willingly sell there children to the ghouls. There are also numerous radiation "hot spots" where bombs directly impacted, which serve as foot holds of ghoul and Manhattan life form colonization. Factories dot the landscape.


May write more later.
 
Pretty sure a regular Aligator would be dangerous enough. Also there are unmutated dogs and coyotesroaming around, I just don't get this "MUTAN EVERYTHING" "IRRADIATED SOFTBALLS!" stuff as the go to idea or go to INCREDIBLE ELEMENT! Pretty superficial.

But look closely at what I said. I was not stating that there were not animals who were clean of rads. What I sad was, is that most animals are not a threat IN GAME without some sort of mutation. I'll even take it a step further than that and stated that many of them would not be a threat without a form of mutation and/or some sort of gene splicing. However if they said gene spliced Gators then you'd have come with the same, "Its unimaginative/superficial." To be one hundred percent honest, how much more creative is saying, "Hey there are alligators in Florida, let toss them into the game cause Florida." I'm not saying that there aren't other ways to go about it such as just saying simple evolution or something, but I feel like your argument is a little misguided since there is only so many ways that we can come up with new interesting creatures to face off against.

Many of the tribes/factions you meet in NV for instances are just spin-offs of one another. Such as the Great Kahns being more Merc like raiders and the Fiends literally being raiders who are super junkies. I mean even if you look at the Tops, Gomorrah and the Kings they're just slightly different types of gangsters. I guess the long and short of it is, there aren't many things we haven't already seen/were used in some context to explain somethings existence in the Fallout Uni.
 
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