Why Fallout 3 is not as bad as most people on this forum think

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woo1108 said:
For exploring, Fo1,2 did better than fo3.
exploring needs reason, information, skill, and tools.
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THIS. How are you expected to buy the idea of a "dangerous wasteland" and still explore just for the sake of it? This only allows for either an OP PC or for a stupid PC. Those are the only ones who would explore just for the sake of it in a dangerous wasteland. Everyone else would require a reason to, for the sake of self-preservation. It breaks immersion big time for me, when I find a game that tries to convince you that the world is full of dangers and then you are supposed to just want to explore with no reason.

OTOH, I don't feel this specially affects FO3. I'm not sure because the last time I played it was a long time ago, but I don't remember going to any dungeon without any excuse.
 
Dienan said:
shihonage said:
Playing Fallout 3 is like being trapped in the mind of an idiot with no chance to get out except to kill yourself.
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To hell with cannon and all this shit! You people are worse than venom spitting snake! Jesus! Why can't a person like a fucking game because they like it? You dislike Fallout 3? Fine, no one is forcing you to play it, no one would hold you at gun point and yell at you to play it till your brain die. Fallout 3 might have kicked cannon here and there but it is still a good game. I'm no fanboy of either game, nor the originals. This is why I havd high hopes for the next game. I learnet the leasson with Thief 4 as I was googling for it every morning before it was even revealed and get upset everyday. After forgetting about it BAM! They announce Thief 4. I really hope the same would happen with Fallout 4. Meanwhile, the people who literally hate the 3rd game can kiss the 4th game good bye. It is being developed by Bethisda. ::evil grin::
seriously, drop the hate. Enjoy the game as it is, don't play it if you don't like it. You people clash like Fallout 3's cannon kicks were so brutal that they even showed up in NV. Nothing major happened in Fallout 3 that screwed NV. I give the credit for Obsidian for following the correct mentor's foot steps and creating a more cannon friendly game. Fallout 3, that's the only reason why I still like gauss weapons. (one shot-one cell) You fucking reaload the weapon with a single cell and you lose 5 from your inventory. Obsidian, you high or something? LOL
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Aha, so you're willing to ignore the piece of sh*t FO3 is on so many fronts, yet laugh at Obsidian for losing five MF cells in an animation that only shows the loading of one.

"To hell with canon" he says.

Maybe Bethesda's elder scrolls forums will be more to your liking, fanboy.
 
Canon?

I wouldn't mind a fresh take on Fallout offered with Fallout 3.

If Bethesda offered a reimagined world of Fallout with altered canon but solid writing, competent world design, fun gameplay mechanics, I would be firmly in the "canon doesn't matter THAT much" category.

But they didn't do any of that. Fallout 3 is a multifaceted turd of a game.

The reason I feel strongly about this is because Fallout was one of the few titles offering a glimpse of the future of RPGs, and yet it turned out to be an anomaly in the world of mediocrity.

And then Fallout 3 came out and thus became the new point of reference to the Fallout franchise, cementing it into the same turdpile as "Kingdoms of Amalur" and "Mass Effect".

When I ask modern gamers about "Fallout", their response is "Oh yeah, my roommate has it on his XBOX". That is the new point of reference now.
 
shihonage said:
When I ask modern gamers about "Fallout", their response is "Oh yeah, my roommate has it on his XBOX". That is the new point of reference now.
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A friend of mine actually called it "the first one" when I asked him which ones he had played. And by "the first one", he meant Fallout 3.
 
but it is still a good game.
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Nope
Obsidian for following the correct mentor's foot steps
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WTF? who is the "correct mentor"?
fo3 and NV is totally different game, different genre.
If there's a mentor, that would be FO1(actually Jsawyer admit it).
not fo3.
Fallout 3, that's the only reason why I still like gauss weapons. (one shot-one cell) You fucking reaload the weapon with a single cell and you lose 5 from your inventory. Obsidian, you high or something? LOL
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Gauss gun didn't used MF actually.
where 2mm EC gone, beth? and gauss gun of fo3 is over powered.
adding cheat by DLC is quite bad idea.
 
Dienan completely broke and instead of pretending that he has anything to say he is just in full on Falout 3 fanboy mode.
Altho some of you guys are also unbearable, people are allowed to like what they like, no reason to insult someone over something as trivial as taste in videogames., unless they start acting like asses about it too.
 
Fallout 3 and all games in the series has their problems. For an example, I have hyperhidrosis and I don't remove my shoes at work or go all shake handy with a customer with so much palm full of sweat. If I just went and did a shake, then I'm an asshole for neglecting the obvious. Same goes for the game. You don't have to like it or hate it. You just play it, you take what is good and you ignore what's bad and you try to enjoy the f*uck outta the game. That was just what I did. If you go out in the street and tell everyone that Fallout 3 is utter shit and shite, you're spoiling a game for'em and you're an asshole for trying to convince'em to disliking/not buying the game just because you didn't like it. I bought Fallout 3 and a friend of mine got the GOTY (the f*cking GOTY people!) and said the game was piss poor and went on by writing bullcrap about it on all the sites he had an account at. People have their tastes. You can't condemn one because your attitude towards something is not positive. The people calling me a fanboy should know that. Alright, I'll be your fanboy. For me, Fallout 3 is the ORIGINAL "but" I didn't go on full retard. I got NV and then with the experience with Fallout 3 I went to see how the lore came to be. Got Fallout and Fallout 2 instead of going full Fallout 3 fanboy mode. I've wasted so much time on Fallout wiki pages that I've lost count but it still feels I only know about 1%-2% about the universe.. If the game is bad in your point of view, just go and point them out so the others would actually benifit from them by using mods to overcome those problems. Not going full as*hole mode and throwing shite at it like a 1st garde school kid.
 
Dienan said:
You don't have to like it or hate it. You just play it, you take what is good and you ignore what's bad and you try to enjoy the f*uck outta the game.
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I guess you don't understand what is critique and why people do that.

Dienan said:
People have their tastes.
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game has it's own taste. what fo3 should be criticized is they ruin the dish named Fallout to satisfy retarded oblivion fanboys. they don't have to make fallout to satisfy fanboys like you. they just make game named TES:post apocalypse to do that. if they use name of Fallout, then they should make fallout not a another TES with PA skin.


Dienan said:
If the game is bad in your point of view, just go and point them out so the others would actually benifit from them by using mods to overcome those problems
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Mods are just accessary. it can't fix the game's real problem. fo3's problem can't be fixed by mod since it's flaw came from idiotic development direction, idiotic design, idiotic idea.
they didn't respect Fallout even they use the name of Fallout.
that's the reason why fo3 is criticised in this Fallout fansite.

and most of mods are just trash.
they don't make game fun but make worse.
 
Dienan said:
Fallout 3 and all games in the series has their problems. For an example, I have hyperhidrosis and I don't remove my shoes at work or go all shake handy with a customer with so much palm full of sweat. If I just went and did a shake, then I'm an asshole for neglecting the obvious. Same goes for the game. You don't have to like it or hate it. You just play it, you take what is good and you ignore what's bad and you try to enjoy the f*uck outta the game. That was just what I did. If you go out in the street and tell everyone that Fallout 3 is utter shit and shite, you're spoiling a game for'em and you're an asshole for trying to convince'em to disliking/not buying the game just because you didn't like it. I bought Fallout 3 and a friend of mine got the GOTY (the f*cking GOTY people!) and said the game was piss poor and went on by writing bullcrap about it on all the sites he had an account at. People have their tastes. You can't condemn one because your attitude towards something is not positive. The people calling me a fanboy should know that. Alright, I'll be your fanboy. For me, Fallout 3 is the ORIGINAL "but" I didn't go on full retard. I got NV and then with the experience with Fallout 3 I went to see how the lore came to be. Got Fallout and Fallout 2 instead of going full Fallout 3 fanboy mode. I've wasted so much time on Fallout wiki pages that I've lost count but it still feels I only know about 1%-2% about the universe.. If the game is bad in your point of view, just go and point them out so the others would actually benifit from them by using mods to overcome those problems. Not going full as*hole mode and throwing shite at it like a 1st garde school kid.
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If game has bad influence on entire game industry, yes, I can.
 
No.
fo3 sold well because it's sequel of oblivion and sold over muti-platform. at the time of Fo1,2 game market itself wasn't big like now.

if the sold number tells whether game is better or worse, I rather play poke' mon than idotic fo3.
jeez... I can be the poke'mon master! yay!
 
Dienan, are you even reading what you are saying?

If you want to like the game you, do it. Why are you even in NMA if you don't like people talking badly about your beloved FO3? people here have more than enough valid reasons to dislike it and to call it a bad game. You are not gonna get convertees by telling us that we should ignore the bad things just because you like it. Get over yourself, go find a FO3 loving community elsewhere and be happy.
 
Dienan said:
Oh, mayby that's why Fallout 3 sold more copys than any other game in the series..
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What's that supposed to mean? I hope you are not trying to use an incredibly overused and tired fallacy...

[spoiler:b7f18a40c6]Of course you are[/spoiler:b7f18a40c6]
 
Seriously you guys need to see this out of the box. I don't see why some of you have been boiling heat of hate with every breath. I was merely trying to show that when you take away the bad, you actually get to see the good side of things. I guess I got a little carried away. The thing is while feeling the same (Fallout 3) towards Thief 4 & Splinter Cell:Black List for abandoning the original voice actors (Stephan Russel & Michael Ironside) just because of the carp replacements and they are NEW and doesn't actually match the characterics of the person I saw in the last games, I was enraged. More pissed than a angry Deathclaw. It's alright. I'll just leave NMA, specially this thread since it's full of frustrated, self-hated people trying to make a video game vanish into thing air for not being in their personal favourits list and thus condemned to death. I'm so sorry for that stupid comment
I'm playing it right now
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as it is extremely lame. Let me just get a few things here, bye! ::Fallout ending movie playes::
 
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