Why I left Reddit for NMA (new guy)

I leave reddit because i used to be shadow-banned, sincer/fallout autmods are just that suck. Now my post history, comments until the last few weeks ago are basically deleted and i swear never gonna go back to that place to discuss fallout again. Or form stronger attachment.

Sure censorship might be good, but that level of thing? Absolutely disgusting.
 
caplanchy said:
I just checked and they are still working on it for their small fan club
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They are still some people playing this dumpsterfire lmao ? Couldnt even pass the tank quest when I tried to play it for myself, the gamebryo is so shit Im honestly shocked how Bethesda continue to work with this, its barely better than slav jank.

Crni Vuk said:
Well you should have been here when Fallout 3 was released. I considered leaving the forum for some time because it became a real issue with people coming in here and telling us how awesome Fallout 3 was, how bad the previous games have been and how we are all wrong for thinking Fallout 3 was not a good sequel to them.
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At every new release you get these people with too much times in their hand to defend or attack a game, they come from nowhere and try to impose their opinions. Some of them are trolls and other really love their game so much that they feel attacked when you hate their below average AAA game. I saw that in other forums when Fallout 4 got released.
 
caplanchy said:
their small fan club
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While I don't care about that project, I can't really agree with the "small fan club".
Just their Discord server has over 11k members (and everyone but their fans got purged from it when the train wreck of the release happened) and there's usually between 2.5k to 3.5k members active at all times.
There's thousands of players waiting eagerly for the release of the "rewrite" of the project. They also got a bigger team than ever working on it now.

Basically, after the initial outrage, this project only got more popular and active than it ever was. :aiee:
 
John Cassidy Joestar said:
At every new release you get these people with too much times in their hand to defend or attack a game, they come from nowhere and try to impose their opinions. Some of them are trolls and other really love their game so much that they feel attacked when you hate their below average AAA game. I saw that in other forums when Fallout 4 got released.
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That's true. However I will say this it was far less of an issue with Fallout 4. Well for obvious reasons. Strange enough you had a lot of people coming somewhat to our defence even. And seriously some even came with the "You have been right all along!" attitude. Because to die hard Fallout 3 fans Fallout 4 might have been what Fallout 3 was to us "old ones" where it always felt Bethesda and in particular Todd and his team don't really care about Fallout as a franchise. They want money. And Fallout 4 can not even be seen as RPG anymore in my opinion.

Bethesda isn't out there to do any good to fans. Not even their own ones. And this has been their motive well since Morrowind. A lot of people I think simply didn't understand at that time that we already knew Bethesda and didn't understand where a lot of the criticism was coming from and some of the vitriol to be fair. We knew them long before Fallout 3. For gods sake some played the first Elder Scrolls games even and had a sort of grudge with the company. For example I grew up with Morrowind and was seriously pissed when they released Oblivion.

When Bethesda started to develop Fallout 3 a lot of NMAers have been even hopefull. In fact some of us have been regular posters in the Bethesda forum, till they started banning us. Some of it was justified I guess(?). But most of the time it was because we started to stir up discussions like, how is this still Fallout? Todd and a few others even made posts here on NMA till they well get a bit to much criticism thrown at them. I guess they wanted to test waters and see how much marketing potential there was in the old Fallout communities. So there is that. But once we realized, yeah Fallout 3 is Oblivion with guns things have gone really sour.

So I would say something has changed here. Not that it really matters in the end. But it feels nice.
 
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A virus known as the soy has been plaguing the wasteland for years now, no one knows for sure where did it came from but once you get infected by it, you will turn into soyack the first symptoms of being soyacks are premature balding, glorious neckbeard and uncontrollable desire to play white knight and bash anyone who disagrees with your progressive mind the soyacks lives in a land known as Reddit, it used to be a place where people could discuss and hang freely not anymore soyacks formed up some unnatural hive mind which bully and harass by downvoting anyone who doesn't have a progressive mind (being die-hard NCR fan, trash-talking legion 24/7 and call Mr.House stupid capitalist dog) in this parallel universe the legion is on a crusade to purge the soyacks and save humanity before we all become mindless soyacks who spend their free worshipping fallout 76 where we flex our fancy Minecraft houses and 2 months grinded plasma guns
 
To paraphrase the immortal Animal Mother:
All fucking Legion LARPers must fucking hang.
 
Crni Vuk said:
Because to die hard Fallout 3 fans Fallout 4 might have been what Fallout 3 was to us "old ones"
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My brother can relate on that, he still plays Fallout 3 time to time but its the only game he plays a lot along side STALKER and Mount and Blade. For him Fallout 3 had an atmosphere and a soul that no other Fallout game has, he did played the others but it wasnt his taste, but Fallout 4 (and especially 76) was a spit to the face to him. The kid in a fridge made him seething lel.

Crni Vuk said:
Bethesda isn't out there to do any good to fans. Not even their own ones. And this has been their motive well since Morrowind.
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To me, its more at Skyrim that they really lost the appeal of TES fans. While some didnt liked Oblivion, it had a least some ambition, soul, passion and sweat from the devs. Sure it didnt got the writing and care or even a large library collection compared to Morrowind or some part of the Lore of Cyrodiil was butchered (no jungles just generic fantasy), however they tried to make the game more alive, NPCs could walk and talk to each other based on their personality, happiness and health (it gave janky and funny dialog though), or be chased by the guards for exemple. Other had cycles or some were secret assassins. It was too ambitious and ended up like a jank fest in the end but they tried new things at least and playing Oblivion felt new at the time, still doesnt make it a good game to my eyes but I respect the ambition of the team.
Skyrim, however, was the most generic RPG fantasy in comparaison (even more than Oblivion imo), they tried nothing new, and casualised the gameplay further where every playthrough ended up as a Stealthy Sniper, with barely any roleplaying elements or replayability. You can be everything at once in a single playthrough (with no level cap), making another run meaningless. The best way to describe Skyrim for me is "safe", and since then, they went safe with every release. Never they will make you the bad guy, always exploring and getting addicted in a gameplay loop of looting and killing. And if there is a problem, modders will fix their games, since Morrowind they do and they wont stop. Sadly a bad story cant be fixed.

Crni Vuk said:
So I would say something has changed here. Not that it really matters in the end. But it feels nice.
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Always feels good to be in the right side in the end.
To me Todd isnt the main problem, he is the pretty face of the company and with a good team he can do very good things. My main beef are dudes like Pete Hines and total hacks like Emil Parguliano (I think could be wrong on the name) who are the ones destroying and everything they touched and say fuck to the fans.
 
Kinda funny because you know what Project Emil Parguliano once worked on? Thief 1 and 2 (if my memory is correct). But obviously it's the whole team in charge at Bethesda that's at fault. And yeah they probably just do what they are told - make us money! - by the guys that run the show.

John Cassidy Joestar said:
To me, its more at Skyrim that they really lost the appeal of TES fans. While some didnt liked Oblivion, it had a least some ambition, soul, passion and sweat from the devs. Sure it didnt got the writing and care or even a large library collection compared to Morrowind or some part of the Lore of Cyrodiil was butchered (no jungles just generic fantasy), however they tried to make the game more alive,
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To be fair what pissed me off so much about Oblivion was the blatant lying and hyping by Todd those E3 videos in Particular ... Radiant AI! The best thing since sliced bread. Turns out it's just never ending generic fetch quests which had nothing to do with what they showed and promised. Next to the writing which was simply shit in Oblivion. At least in my opinion. But yeah you're right about Skyrim. When you look at what Todd did since Morrowind was constantly streamingling every game he made. From Oblivion to Skyrim and from Fallout 3 to Fallout 4. Not trying anything newe and always aiming at the lowest common denominator.
 
Crni Vuk said:
Kinda funny because you know what Project Emil Parguliano once worked on? Thief 1 and 2 (if my memory is correct). But obviously it's the whole team in charge at Bethesda that's at fault. And yeah they probably just do what they are told - make us money! - by the guys that run the show.


To be fair what pissed me off so much about Oblivion was the blatant lying and hyping by Todd those E3 videos in Particular ... Radiant AI! The best thing since sliced bread. Turns out it's just never ending generic fetch quests which had nothing to do with what they showed and promised. Next to the writing which was simply shit in Oblivion. At least in my opinion. But yeah you're right about Skyrim. When you look at what Todd did since Morrowind was constantly streamingling every game he made. From Oblivion to Skyrim and from Fallout 3 to Fallout 4. Not trying anything newe and always aiming at the lowest common denominator.
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Todd's strategy is to release half-baked games and then make it super mods friendly so the community patches everything and Bethesda games are pretty much sandbox mode for mods this just made them lazy and incompetent and it shows on fallout 76 where their "it just works, let the modders fix our mess" couldn't be applied because it's their MMO game.

And let's be honest if FO76 was actually something like new vegas but in borderlands coop style where 4 people explore the wasteland it would have been the most amazing game we had but nah let's make it a generic super grindy, broken MMO.
 
TheGM said:
All Furries are Pedos. Change my mind.
you can't.
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Just the other day I saw a cheater in TF2 and when I went to report his ass, (like Valve would do anything about it), his profile included:

-furry avatar
-starry background
-and a profile comment complaining about gay shit and apparent stalking, telling furry to leave him alone.

Chance it could be pedo? Considering the large amount of -18 people on Steam, might just be, I wouldnt be surprised.

By the way, they taught me in grammer school that you should default to "he" when talking about anthropomorphic unknown entities. I want to shit on a Redditor who decides to throw gender bias in my face.
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JustAShcookius said:
Just the other day I saw a cheater in TF2 and when I went to report his ass, (like Valve would do anything about it), his profile included:

-furry avatar
-starry background
-and a profile comment complaining about gay shit and apparent stalking, telling furry to leave him alone.

Chance it could be pedo? Considering the large amount of -18 people on Steam, might just be, I wouldnt be surprised.

By the way, they taught me in grammer school that you should default to "he" when talking about anthropomorphic unknown entities. I want to shit on a Redditor who decides to throw gender bias in my face.
:boy:
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Probably. you can easily piss them off by bringing up how furries abuse children and animals.
 
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John Cassidy Joestar said:
Always feels good to be in the right side in the end.
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Still when Bethdrones enter this Forum opening topics to tell us how "wrong" we are (which happens sometimes even in this day and age) it feels like ...

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What I don't get about Reddit Fallout fans is how they insist on defending EVERYTHING. Like, if you wanna enjoy FO4 as a shooter with radiation mechanics and barebones RPG elements and you don't really care about lore or serious worldbuilding, sure I might disagree with you, but that's a reasonable review.

But if you dare say Bethesda fucked supermutants and BoS lore so they could ram them into the East Coast for no good reason other than their lack of creativity, you'll be downvoted into oblivion, or worse, witness them trying to justify whatever obvious bullshit you've brought up. Just, why? It's cultish.
 
Zvezda said:
What I don't get about Reddit Fallout fans is how they insist on defending EVERYTHING. Like, if you wanna enjoy FO4 as a shooter with radiation mechanics and barebones RPG elements and you don't really care about lore or serious worldbuilding, sure I might disagree with you, but that's a reasonable review.

But if you dare say Bethesda fucked supermutants and BoS lore so they could ram them into the East Coast for no good reason other than their lack of creativity, you'll be downvoted into oblivion, or worse, witness them trying to justify whatever obvious bullshit you've brought up. Just, why? It's cultish.
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Because double standards. You can't shit on the Bethesda Fallouts by claiming that they did a bunch of shit wrong and show evidence of such, but you can claim that the first two games are outdated and that the worldmap of New Vegas is boring and it has nothing to find without any evidence.
 
Well you have to wait till Bethesda retcons and fucks with the stuff they like and care about.
 
So can you upload a file on mobile here or not? Trying to upload the result of an ai image generators interpretation of the wird "fallout" but when I clxik to upload and tyen select the image it just brings me bacj with nithing uploaded. Sad.
 
Crni Vuk said:
Kinda funny because you know what Project Emil Parguliano once worked on? Thief 1 and 2 (if my memory is correct). But obviously it's the whole team in charge at Bethesda that's at fault. And yeah they probably just do what they are told - make us money! - by the guys that run the show.


To be fair what pissed me off so much about Oblivion was the blatant lying and hyping by Todd those E3 videos in Particular ... Radiant AI! The best thing since sliced bread. Turns out it's just never ending generic fetch quests which had nothing to do with what they showed and promised. Next to the writing which was simply shit in Oblivion. At least in my opinion. But yeah you're right about Skyrim. When you look at what Todd did since Morrowind was constantly streamingling every game he made. From Oblivion to Skyrim and from Fallout 3 to Fallout 4. Not trying anything newe and always aiming at the lowest common denominator.
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16 Times the Detail!©
 
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