World Cup 2010 South Africa

[Sander]

They aren't allowed! They saw they made a mistake, but simply couldn't overturn a ruling once it has been made, based on video evidence.

Yep, though I would've loved had they done it. If they had overruled that decision, they would not have ref'd another game this tournament and maybe ever at a major tournament, though.

2 words:

Robben rules!

Yes he does. It's so odd to see this Dutch team play matches: so solid, not too risky, not too much flair, but they just keep on winning. In essence, I think their basic strategy is very similar to Brazil's strategy - though Brazil relies more on individual moments than the Dutch team does.

 

[Hamenaglar]

The referee didn’t lose the match for England, their terrible defense did…most of the goals from Germany could have been easily prevented by a quality team, they left nobody in defense and paid the price, and just like Sander mentioned England like to crowd the middle of the ground when they go into attack, while Germany sweep down the flanks and cross into the middle. I wouldn’t call this a great victory for Germany…but it is a great loss for England. Germany versus Argentina…that will be the real test.

I think you are underestimating Germany. The movement of their front four was brilliant, and going by the names english defence isn't really amatoure.

Germany vs Argentina? Both teams are good going forward and not really confident at the back. Argentina is more gifted side, but I think germans play more as a team and are better organized. My money is on germans.

They aren't allowed! They saw they made a mistake, but simply couldn't overturn a ruling once it has been made, based on video evidence.

Yep, though I would've loved had they done it. If they had overruled that decision, they would not have ref'd another game this tournament and maybe ever at a major tournament, though.

Mateo Beusan, former croatian referee and now a refereeing controller said he would also loved for the referee to overturn a decision, because he felt it might set a precedent and perhaps change things in the future. This way, nothing will happen

2 words:

Robben rules!

Yes he does. It's so odd to see this Dutch team play matches: so solid, not too risky, not too much flair, but they just keep on winning. In essence, I think their basic strategy is very similar to Brazil's strategy - though Brazil relies more on individual moments than the Dutch team does.

I don't like Brazil, but I think that because of this efficiency and organization, they are most likely to win it. Getting less and less confident about Spain, especially if Del Bosque keeps insisting in not playing Fabregas. I don't trust this Dutch apparently efficient side too. I simply don't have confidence in their defence and wonder what will happen when they face good offensive side.

 

[Sander]

I think you are underestimating Germany. The movement of their front four was brilliant, and going by the names english defence isn't really amatoure.

Germany vs Argentina? Both teams are good going forward and not really confident at the back. Argentina is more gifted side, but I think germans play more as a team and are better organized. My money is on germans.

Mine too. The German back-line isn't too good, but their midfield helps out very well in defense, and I think Argentina is too reliant on individual moments and doesn't have the capability to break down a defence as a team. The Germans on the other hand don't really have that individual brilliance, but they've shown the capability of breaking down defences as a team through solid positional play, good runs off the ball and great passing. I think that'll be terribly hard for the Argentinian defense to deal with.

I don't like Brazil, but I think that because of this efficiency and organization, they are most likely to win it. Getting less and less confident about Spain, especially if Del Bosque keeps insisting in not playing Fabregas. I don't trust this Dutch apparently efficient side too. I simply don't have confidence in their defence and wonder what will happen when they face good offensive side.

Interestingly, the Dutch won't face a good offense till the finals at the most. Neither Uruguay nor Ghana are especially good offensively and rely on the individual moments, and the same goes for the Brazilians. The individual quality may be problematic, but given the defensive mentality of the midfielders it shouldn't be a huge problem.

 

[Arr0nax]

Chile will kick Brasil's ass.
I think....

 

[Jesterka]

Yeah, another silly moment happened yesterday... I'd maybe understand overlooking Tevez's slight header, but he was stated to be an author, so what the fuck - two sleepin' referees again?

Fortunately this hardly was a key moment, 'cause Mexico could barely resist that (casual) total football from the other planet - Planet Argentina.

Haven't actually seen NED - SVK, but I can clearly imagine that Slovaks successfully picked up on the bad performance against Paraguay. Netherlands seemed quite beatable to me.

 

[Hamenaglar]

I don't like Brazil, but I think that because of this efficiency and organization, they are most likely to win it. Getting less and less confident about Spain, especially if Del Bosque keeps insisting in not playing Fabregas. I don't trust this Dutch apparently efficient side too. I simply don't have confidence in their defence and wonder what will happen when they face good offensive side.

Interestingly, the Dutch won't face a good offense till the finals at the most. Neither Uruguay nor Ghana are especially good offensively and rely on the individual moments, and the same goes for the Brazilians. The individual quality may be problematic, but given the defensive mentality of the midfielders it shouldn't be a huge problem.

You are underestimating both Brazil and Uruguay, they might rely more on individual brilliance but they are certainly more threat going forward than Slovakia. I can't see holland going past brazil. Anything can happen ofcourse and I wouldn't mind holland winning, they deserve to finally win that bloody cup.

Chile will kick Brasil's ass.
I think....

I would love chile to go through. They play brilliant football in an unorthodox 3-3-1-3 formation, and Bielsa is really crazy (he is nicknamed el loco after all) but I think that chile's style suits brazil a lot, especially because brazil beat them twice in qualifiers quite easily I think.

 

[Sander]

You are underestimating both Brazil and Uruguay, they might rely more on individual brilliance but they are certainly more threat going forward than Slovakia. I can't see holland going past brazil. Anything can happen ofcourse and I wouldn't mind holland winning, they deserve to finally win that bloody cup.

Don't deserve to win it unless we actually win it.
Anyway, yeah, Brazil would clearly be the favourite in that match and they have some great quality, but they don't play as a team offensively (while they certainly do defensively). I think the Dutch team would struggle more with an attack like Germany fields than one Brazil fields, though.

 

[Hamenaglar]

I actually think germany would struggle a lot playing vs. holland because oezil and co. would have a hard time finding that space between midifield and defence due to the defensive nature of van bommel and de jong.

As for brasil, they still haven't gotten past chile. So far chile dominating possesion, but it might play into the hands of brazil as they will have more chances to launch counter-attacks (like the one Luis Fabiano failed to finish).

 

[Crni Vuk]

2 words:

Robben rules!

What are you talking about ? You must be kinda dense or stupid to not see that it was obviously NOT in, the refree was obviously doing his job right and here is the proof ~ still like you Yams :3 !

 

[x'il]

The poor Chilean defense was it's undoing, that and they went on top of Brazil. You. Just. Don't. Do. That.

 

[Sicblades]

Yeah - well they didn't really play all that well anyways. Brazil definitely deserved to win and all their goals were top notch.

 

[x'il]

Wow. Portugal/Spain was a really entertaining game, though Spain just rolled over Portugal in the second half, their best game in the world cup i must say.

 

[Morbus]

The referee was clearly bias though.

 

[Sander]

The referee was clearly bias though.

No he wasn't. That match was whistled nearly perfectly, with a few minor mistakes.

And really, Spain weren't dominant at all and had a lot of trouble getting through the Portuguese defense until they brought on Llorente for Torres. In fact, I think that up until that substititution Portugal was the better side.

 

[Morbus]

Well, up to the point I stopped watching the game (when Spain scored), there were at least five fouls by Span that he didn't see, and two fouls from Portugal that weren't fouls... I can't talk about the remaining minutes of the game though.

 

[Dead Guy]

The only thing I saw that might've been a foul was when Ronaldo was pulled down out on one side on Spains half. The only foul I didn't see was the red card which happened after the goal iirc. Considering how quick he was to give that card he must've been pretty sure cause there were really few cards in this game.

Close fought and exciting game anyway.

 

[x'il]

The referee was clearly bias though.

Location: Porto, Portugal

Bias?

No, the refereeing was very good in that match, if anything the referee just let the game play on instead of stopping it in a couple of situations (which made for a better, faster game with more continuity IMO) but this applied to both teams equally.

 

[Sander]

Well, up to the point I stopped watching the game (when Spain scored), there were at least five fouls by Span that he didn't see, and two fouls from Portugal that weren't fouls... I can't talk about the remaining minutes of the game though.

You actually stopped watching when Spain scored?
Huh.

Anyway, in every game a ref sees one or two fouls wrongly. This ref certainly wasn't seeing or missing excessively many fouls in favour of either team, and even if he was it never influenced the game significantly.

 

[Morbus]

You actually stopped watching when Spain scored?
Huh.

Lol.

Anyway, in every game a ref sees one or two fouls wrongly. This ref certainly wasn't seeing or missing excessively many fouls in favour of either team, and even if he was it never influenced the game significantly.

Well, in the first half, considering Portugal only had those dangerous plays when they attacked from the flanks, the 2 fouls that were committed upon Ronaldo that went unseen seem a bit significant to me. But hey! I have a reason to e biased. The referee only spoke the same language as Spain, nothing much! Who will EVER think that he was biased?

Lol.

:EDIT:

The referee was clearly bias though.

Location: Porto, Portugal

Bias?

Bullshit.

I don't know a fantastic amount of football, and I understand that the teams must consider their strategies according to what referees will be in their games, and how harsh they are so on, but I just think it's a bit sad that they get an Argentinian referee in a Spain v. Portugal game. Maybe if they had gotten a Mozambican referee the game would have been just as biased and maybe Portugal would have won.

But the game finished as it was that that's how it is. I'm not questioning the result. Our team is pretty crappy, all in all, couldn't even win against Brazil... Well done to Spain and I hope they win the cup.

 

[Sander]

Well, in the first half, considering Portugal only had those dangerous plays when they attacked from the flanks, the 2 fouls that were committed upon Ronaldo that went unseen seem a bit significant to me. But hey! I have a reason to e biased. The referee only spoke the same language as Spain, nothing much! Who will EVER think that he was biased?

He speaks the same language, so he must be biased?
Horseshit
And seriously, he missed two 'fouls' on Ronaldo (I didn't see the fouls), who has a penchant for dives and that means he's biased, and not that either they weren't fouls or he just missed them?
Get over yourself, the man refereed a good match while at the very most missing a few minor fouls. He was not overly biased, and Portugal certainly didn't lose the match because of him.