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Voice Of Reason
First time out of the vault
ok, now that we know that FOblivion won't live up to the original games in any way, it also looks like the game won't be interesting for any other type of gamer. except for _really_ casual gamers. it doesn't look like a fallout game, and judging by the latest news, it doesn't look like a good game at all.
the engine does look outdated. you can't compensate missing lighting effects, bad character design and so on, just by rising the polygon count.
the fighting system will most likely be unbalanced and unsatisfying, be it for fps or turnbased rpg players.
the whole design seems to be hacked-together, uninspiring, without any feeling for the detail.
so what will be left of the fallout franchise?
what will happen in the future?
on a sidenote: screw that "reason" part in my nickname. i seriously didn't expect beth to fail this hard.
the engine does look outdated. you can't compensate missing lighting effects, bad character design and so on, just by rising the polygon count.
the fighting system will most likely be unbalanced and unsatisfying, be it for fps or turnbased rpg players.
the whole design seems to be hacked-together, uninspiring, without any feeling for the detail.
so what will be left of the fallout franchise?
what will happen in the future?
on a sidenote: screw that "reason" part in my nickname. i seriously didn't expect beth to fail this hard.
Don't count on it. With all the hype that's being generated, and magazines babbling about GOTY, it's going to draw all the Konsole Kiddies in.
shihonage said:
Actually, the skeletons and post box were not held out as examples of humour as such. It was my interpretation of how such things more or less automatically are cast in a different light by the circumstances. The letter for instance calls to mind the "Let us in, motherfuckers" sign in a way that is more ironic than blatant. Not "ha ha" humour, but "hmm, er, heh" giving way to "why is this still here after 200 years" kind of humour.
Voice Of Reason said:
You want to be renamed "Voice Of"?
CodeZombie
First time out of the vault
navmeshes? with markup for cover? Ground breaking?
Sure... yeah right... what ever...
that's old tech, we used it in Call of Cthulhu ffs.
It'll work, as long as it programmed well, but its not new technology, not as Emil describes it...
- Also, please God no, not the Retard Compass, please no, I hated that with a passion in Oblivion... Arrraggghhh... Now I know I wont be buying Fallout3 until they bring out the modding tools, because I WILL want to get rid of the compass.
Sure... yeah right... what ever...
that's old tech, we used it in Call of Cthulhu ffs.It'll work, as long as it programmed well, but its not new technology, not as Emil describes it...
- Also, please God no, not the Retard Compass, please no, I hated that with a passion in Oblivion... Arrraggghhh... Now I know I wont be buying Fallout3 until they bring out the modding tools, because I WILL want to get rid of the compass.
Cut the quote pyramids.
Anani Masu said:
Considering how good they are at working in AIs, I have some serious doubts about both their intention and their capabilities to work in a complex AI system which includes NPCs taking the high ground or utilizing cover.
To be fair, I wouldn't just be sceptical about this coming from Bethesda, but they have a track record of outright lying on this point. But I'd have serious doubts about any company making such claims. Why? Because tactical AI is one of the least developed elements in game development as is.
deanimate said:
Indisputable = can't be disputed. That's really, really not the case here. That'd be like me saying Bethesda is indisputably the wrong company for the job. Considering how much dispute there is on the point, it's simply a very silly word to use.
VoR said:
Well, assuming Fallout 3 is of the quality it appears to be from these previews, just expect NMA to scrounge together as many mods as we can to save what we can. "Turning Fallout 3 into VtM:Bloodlines" has been uttered before. It's a fairly noble goal, we'll see how far we get.
And supporting indie projects and mods will be high on our list.
Fallout? The Fallout license has been screwed since Bethesda fully purchased it. The most depressing day of my fansistence.
CodeZombie
First time out of the vault
I totally agree, on the title I'm working on we have as many AI coders as renderer coders. Why?
Because a good tactical AI is really tough to develop.
Though it is sweet to watch the AI squad mates run into a ruined building and start taking cover around the rubble, popping out to take shots. But I'll be happily surprised if the AI manages this in Fallout:Oblivion.
Myryad said:
Eh?
They stopped trying to hide that about half a year ago.
Now they're just trying to convince everyone that it's a good idea.
(though I repeat for the sake of form: Fallout 3 isn't Oblivion with Guns. It's more a mix of about half a dozen games, in style and gameplay, Oblivion probably being the biggest influence)
Not really.
I'd say it's more Oblivion, Mass Effect, Fallout, Gears of War, Burnout 2 and some bits from here and there, including ripping off stuff like Half-Life's grav gun.
I'd say it's more Oblivion, Mass Effect, Fallout, Gears of War, Burnout 2 and some bits from here and there, including ripping off stuff like Half-Life's grav gun.