Zegh's Dinosaur Thread
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This dinosaur is rare as hell. Zegh I know you know a ton of shit about this so please enlighten us.
This is what would be considered super-based within a paleontological context: Going to the dinosaur-thread, and just posting about a cool bird
Most paleo-peeps will - in a pinch - refer to "non-avian dinosaurs" when they need to specify they are only refering to the pre-paleogenic species, but some hardliners - like one dude on my twitter, he WILL hashtag "theropoda" "maniraptora" "dinosaurs" etc, when posting some new and interesting tidbit about colibris or flamingos or toucans
I am in particular very intrigued by the "fully modern" avians that were developed by the Cretaceous, mostly shorebirds, sea-gulls, proto-pelicans and so on - these were essentially just... more theropods, amidst theropods!
There were also so-called Enantiornithines, which were sparrow-like theropods - or birds, if you will - essentially filling the song-bird niche, filling trees, flying in flocks etc. These all died out as a result of the K/T ecological collapse. All surviving birds come from hidden ghost-lineages, that might have survived due to shore-specialization, for then to evolve into parrots and ostriches and crows and shit - as well as the already existing shore-bird-groups that had evolved by then, and still live today, in unbroken lineages.
Most paleo-peeps will - in a pinch - refer to "non-avian dinosaurs" when they need to specify they are only refering to the pre-paleogenic species, but some hardliners - like one dude on my twitter, he WILL hashtag "theropoda" "maniraptora" "dinosaurs" etc, when posting some new and interesting tidbit about colibris or flamingos or toucans
I am in particular very intrigued by the "fully modern" avians that were developed by the Cretaceous, mostly shorebirds, sea-gulls, proto-pelicans and so on - these were essentially just... more theropods, amidst theropods!
There were also so-called Enantiornithines, which were sparrow-like theropods - or birds, if you will - essentially filling the song-bird niche, filling trees, flying in flocks etc. These all died out as a result of the K/T ecological collapse. All surviving birds come from hidden ghost-lineages, that might have survived due to shore-specialization, for then to evolve into parrots and ostriches and crows and shit - as well as the already existing shore-bird-groups that had evolved by then, and still live today, in unbroken lineages.
This is what would be considered super-based within a paleontological context: Going to the dinosaur-thread, and just posting about a cool bird
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Some Rex video.
Here, made a drawing
This is Embasaurus minax, from the Neocomian sands of Kazakhstan, ca 140 million years ago, earliest Cretaceous.
It is not new or anything, and was named back in 1931.
Naming it was a bit of a mistake, because the identity is based on two vertebral centra, meaning - only the cylindrical-shaped core of a vertebra, and they are completely broken and smoothened off - in other words, they are impossible to ever compare to any other fossil from the same area.
Because of this, all recent research label the name a "nomen dubium" - which denotes a taxon that *can never* reliably be properly identified, due to its incompleteness. Nomina dubiae should not exist, they disturb science, and add noise and clutter, and most of them have been named due to overzeaousness, either personal ego, national ego, or - in the case of very old names, due to the percieved significance, at the time, of two, lone eroded vertebrae - not realizing that 100 years from then, much more complete fossils would be expected, and extremely fragmentary material would come to be recieve much less priority.
A hundred years ago, it was commonplace to identify dinosaur teeth, and name any tooth that seemed odd or unique or special - and this has today resulted in a heap of unused dinosaur names, all considered nomina nudae, as well as an unwritten taboo when it comes to naming teeth in general! They are refered to as "tooth-taxa", and are all considered invalid dinosaur names, such as Thespesius, Agathaumas or Deinodon - which are probably teeth coming from Edmontosaurus, Triceratops and Tyrannosaurus respectively, but could ALSO come from Kritosaurus, Torosaurus and Daspletosaurus, OR they could come from Saurolophus, Pachyrhinosaurus or Nanuqsaurus - all of them fit, and so Thespesius, Agathaumas and Deinodon - all named in the 1800s, are worthless names.
In terms of classification, Embasaurus minax is therefore considered Theropoda incertae sedis, meaning that no further ID-ing than "theropoda" can be reliably done. Now, based on its size, as well as time and place, I - as a speculating artist, can eliminate most advanced Coelurosaurs, while having to rely on more advanced so-called "Carnosaurs", and end up with something that's likely a Megalosaurid or Allosaurid of quite moderate size (like that of a horse-sized tiger)
I gave it a double crest cus you can't prove it hadn't. Nobody can. Ever.
This is Embasaurus minax, from the Neocomian sands of Kazakhstan, ca 140 million years ago, earliest Cretaceous.
It is not new or anything, and was named back in 1931.
Naming it was a bit of a mistake, because the identity is based on two vertebral centra, meaning - only the cylindrical-shaped core of a vertebra, and they are completely broken and smoothened off - in other words, they are impossible to ever compare to any other fossil from the same area.
Because of this, all recent research label the name a "nomen dubium" - which denotes a taxon that *can never* reliably be properly identified, due to its incompleteness. Nomina dubiae should not exist, they disturb science, and add noise and clutter, and most of them have been named due to overzeaousness, either personal ego, national ego, or - in the case of very old names, due to the percieved significance, at the time, of two, lone eroded vertebrae - not realizing that 100 years from then, much more complete fossils would be expected, and extremely fragmentary material would come to be recieve much less priority.
A hundred years ago, it was commonplace to identify dinosaur teeth, and name any tooth that seemed odd or unique or special - and this has today resulted in a heap of unused dinosaur names, all considered nomina nudae, as well as an unwritten taboo when it comes to naming teeth in general! They are refered to as "tooth-taxa", and are all considered invalid dinosaur names, such as Thespesius, Agathaumas or Deinodon - which are probably teeth coming from Edmontosaurus, Triceratops and Tyrannosaurus respectively, but could ALSO come from Kritosaurus, Torosaurus and Daspletosaurus, OR they could come from Saurolophus, Pachyrhinosaurus or Nanuqsaurus - all of them fit, and so Thespesius, Agathaumas and Deinodon - all named in the 1800s, are worthless names.
In terms of classification, Embasaurus minax is therefore considered Theropoda incertae sedis, meaning that no further ID-ing than "theropoda" can be reliably done. Now, based on its size, as well as time and place, I - as a speculating artist, can eliminate most advanced Coelurosaurs, while having to rely on more advanced so-called "Carnosaurs", and end up with something that's likely a Megalosaurid or Allosaurid of quite moderate size (like that of a horse-sized tiger)
I gave it a double crest cus you can't prove it hadn't. Nobody can. Ever.
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TorontoReign
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The new Jurassic movie has feathers in it.
I hope you have a Patreon and are monetizing this. Funny the news in that part of the world right now.
I don't need to monetize, since I get a fully functional disability payment - one that works well for me especially in conjunction with living in a couple, sharing bills.
It's a luxury that I am taking full advantage of. Should things change, then yeah, Patreon and monetization would be an option, but for now, I have the ability to be gracious about it.
Just don't steal and make memes and shit like that obv, it would make sad
(crni forever gave a wound that cannot heal, but I still have room for trust!)
It's a luxury that I am taking full advantage of. Should things change, then yeah, Patreon and monetization would be an option, but for now, I have the ability to be gracious about it.
Just don't steal and make memes and shit like that obv, it would make sad
(crni forever gave a wound that cannot heal, but I still have room for trust!)
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TorontoReign
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Ok keep it in mind if you ever decide to have kids and need money. It would be hard to do it due to the work aspect taking the fun away but you seem to have the drive to produce dino content.
What I have done now?
You submitted a drawing of mine to some meme-site, and it gave me a thousand flashbacks of emailing korean dudes, to beg them not to decorate their websites with my shit without asking, another website that traced all my shit, then got all uppity when I told them it still counted as plagiarism, finding my skeletals in actually published chinese work - outdated crap on my part, but still - they just took it
I know you meant nothing by it, but to me, that's *one* piece of work off to sail its own winds, become an NFT and whatnot. I know there's always that risk inherent, when you post stuff right there on DeviantArt or Twitter, but you know...
I didn't expect it to come from those whom I trusted :'(
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TorontoReign
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I really want to make a joke about Communism and you not owning anything.
You can own private posessions in communism. People can't come and take your toothbrush or your favorite hat or your cutlery, and stuff like that. They also can't rip your work off, and pocket the profits, that's capitalism >:I
Communism is what I try to do, to share freely, control my own means of production, be nice about it, but holy shit is it difficult to maintain in a world full of unhinged maniacs.
(Although Deviantart are profitting off my page-clicks of course, cus I am trapped in the same society everyone else is.)
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TorontoReign
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Can you make a movie about dear leader being a dinosaur that fucks other dudes? YOU CAN HERE BABY.
I did? What the hell ... why can't I remember that? What drawing was it? I am serious. I really can't remember this.You submitted a drawing of mine to some meme-site, and it gave me a thousand flashbacks of emailing korean dudes, to beg them not to decorate their websites with my shit without asking, another website that traced all my shit, then got all uppity when I told them it still counted as plagiarism, finding my skeletals in actually published chinese work - outdated crap on my part, but still - they just took it
I know you meant nothing by it, but to me, that's *one* piece of work off to sail its own winds, become an NFT and whatnot. I know there's always that risk inherent, when you post stuff right there on DeviantArt or Twitter, but you know...
I didn't expect it to come from those whom I trusted :'(
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TorontoReign
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Shitposting.