What was the Funniest Argument You've had with a Bethesda Apologist?

Discussion in 'General Fallout Discussion' started by FlashBash64, May 13, 2016.

  1. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    Not an argument, but this is the only thread where we can quote Reddit without it being cross-site trolling.
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    Recently? You mean you haven't heard that one a thousand times already?

    The "It's ok that your entire backstory is prewritten, 'cause the Vault Dweller came from a Vault" excuse has to be one of the most commonly called numbers in Bethesda fanboy bingo.
     
  2. naossano

    naossano Vault Fossil

    Oct 19, 2006
    Isn't the term apologist quite unapropriate ? I don't recall any of them making any kind of apology...
     
  3. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    Speaking of bingo:
     
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  4. AlsGaming

    AlsGaming First time out of the vault

    Jun 2, 2017
    I recall an argument a friend and I had leading up to Fallout 4's release, I said I wasn't looking forward to it because of Skyrim's weak writing and that the graphics and guns looked bad. He told me it was going to be great because it had a cover system (which turned out to be one of the must insufferable 'features' of the game) and that I was simply critiquing the game to uphold some false sense of superiority. I recall having a similar argument over DA: Inquisition as well. Funny because at the time we had both only played FO3 and NV and always said 3 was the better one because of 'muh atmosphere' or something like that. So I've made plenty shitty arguments myself, probably because I was 12 when I played Fallout 3.
     
  5. Ben Soto

    Ben Soto Professional Salt Shaker

    Jul 7, 2014
    TFW you realize you've been defending Bethesda using some of the stuff on the Bethesdrone bingo card.
     
  6. Risewild

    Risewild So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    Apologist actually means someone who argues to defend or justify some policy or institution.
    Although it would be fun if some people started apologizing for whatever reasons.
     
  7. Prone Squanderer

    Prone Squanderer A bit of a Sillius Soddus.

    Jan 3, 2016
    Forgive me Father, for I have sinned. I am sorry that I pre-ordered Fallout 4.
     
  8. ThatZenoGuy

    ThatZenoGuy Residential Zealous Evolved Nano Organism

    Nov 8, 2016
    I don't get the graphical counter-arguments in that picture.

    None of us really complain about the graphics, considering Fallout 1-2 used sprites of all things with questionable quality here and there (I never liked how blurry the deathclaw sprites were, but I LOVED the gecko animations).

    I guess the argument is that 'if Fallout 3-4 are fucking terrible in quality everywhere else, it better fucking have good graphics'? Although of course, they look like ass compared to peers.
     
  9. MasterMirror

    MasterMirror First time out of the vault

    Jun 28, 2017
  10. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    Well, I swore to stay away from these arguments but I got into one recently on Youtube due to how much the person was using speculation and 4's butchered lore to justify why Kid in the Fridge worked:


    EDIT: I won't bore you with the details but thankfully he stopped replying after some time.
     
  11. GlowHound

    GlowHound Look, Ma! Two Heads!

    Jun 12, 2008
  12. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    If I ever finally off myself, I'm going to leave this screenshot instead of a suicide note:
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  13. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    I took a peek. Aside from a few people, most of them honestly think that there was no Thieves Guild in Fallout... Even when a quick Google search says otherwise.
     
  14. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    Why are you expecting Bethesda fanboys to have enough basic intelligence and common sense to use google?
     
  15. CerberusGate

    CerberusGate I should save my game in a whole new slot

    Jun 6, 2016
    :shrug:
     
  16. Hassknecht

    Hassknecht For hate's sake Admin Orderite

    Aug 16, 2010
    Or actually play Fallout 1...
    To be fair, the Thieves Guild was disappointing.
     
  17. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    One thing I hear a lot is "You can't compare the newer games to the classic games because they are a completely different genre"(Often to dismiss you when you raise how untrue 3 and 4 are to 1 and 2)

    This argument annoys the fuck outta me because

    A. They are still primarily RPGs. Just because the newer games have a first person perspective doesn't change that. If the fundamental genre is still the same, perspective doesn't matter, we can still compare and contrast what they did well and what they did poorly with earlier examples.

    B. If hypothetically the series had changed so rapidly we couldn't compare it to the older games(Which it hasn't), that's an issue in and of itself. That would mean the series had been so twisted to fit popular ideals of games that it lost everything that made it what it was.
     
  18. Arnust

    Arnust Maybe you've seen it, maybe, in a dream...

    Feb 2, 2016
    To be fair, for most bethesda fans "Thieves Guild" means something pretty different of what you could find in Fo1, which is already quite hidden in the first place.
     
  19. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    This is basically my "Stupid shit people said on Reddit" thread now.

    People make me want to kill myself sometimes:
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  20. SquiglyContiello

    SquiglyContiello First time out of the vault

    Jan 3, 2018
    Dark and Gloomy doesnt make stuff realistic, when are kids gonna understand that?