8.9 Earthquake in Japan
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Ilosar
Vault Fossil
Reactor 3 is going critical, fires and hydrogen everywhere, apparently all employees remaining on site have been evacuated temporarily. This could really happen.
Not only that, 3 300 dead, thousands more missing, 500 000 homeless. This is incredible.
Not only that, 3 300 dead, thousands more missing, 500 000 homeless. This is incredible.
Ilosar said:
Would it be in bad taste to lay bets on the final numbers dead.
I'm guessing 35,000 died in this event. Many more dead than injured - how can someone out run a 10 meter wall of water traveling at 100 km.EDIT: It seems one town may have lost 40,000 people...thats how many are missing anyway...that's terrible. So the numbers could be closer to 100,000.
DarthBartus
It Wandered In From the Wastes
French gov't says, that situation in Fukushima is going to be even worse than in Chernobyl. But what do they know, they eat frogs.
DarthBartus
It Wandered In From the Wastes
But AFAIK, Bethesda only has rights to publish three Fallout games... Unless agreement changed from the time I last checked...
Anyway, people start to be afraid of nuclear power ("hurr, durr, Chernobyl, we're gonna die"). Imho it's just like with planes-planes are the safest way of transport, yet many people are afraid of it. Not because plane crashes happen more often, but because they're far more spectacular than car crashes and there's far more about them in media. Nuclear power is the best way of producing massive amounts of energy, as it emits almost no pollution (there's problem with storing radioactive waste tho). And events in Fukushima power plants seem to be caused by neglected safety inspections and improper constraction of power plant itself. (sauce: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/fuk...spection-records/story-fn84naht-1226023073141 )
Anyway, people start to be afraid of nuclear power ("hurr, durr, Chernobyl, we're gonna die"). Imho it's just like with planes-planes are the safest way of transport, yet many people are afraid of it. Not because plane crashes happen more often, but because they're far more spectacular than car crashes and there's far more about them in media. Nuclear power is the best way of producing massive amounts of energy, as it emits almost no pollution (there's problem with storing radioactive waste tho). And events in Fukushima power plants seem to be caused by neglected safety inspections and improper constraction of power plant itself. (sauce: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/fuk...spection-records/story-fn84naht-1226023073141 )
That agreement changed a long time ago. Bethesda owns the Fallout rights completely, only Interplay is allowed to make a Fallout MMO. And even that is being challenged by Bethesda.DarthBartus said:
Your comparison with plane crashes is extremely flawed. When a plane crashes it doesn't make a strip of land unihabatable for a century.DarthBartus said:
That said, it's ridiculous that people in Western Europe are protesting nuclear power because this happened. Western Europe isn't going to be struck by 8.9 strength earthquakes ever. Stop thinking Japan's problems are somehow relevant to an earthquake-free area of the world.
DarthBartus said:
Don't pay any attention to sander, he's dutch.
Your comparision is apt in some parts. If an airplane crashes we look for cause. Was it pilot error, a design flaw, etc. We don't say, "Oh noes! we must stop using planes!!" What we do is improve pilot training or correct design flaws.
In the case of Fukushima, we should be saying, "Let's not build reactors on top of huge faultlines in an earthquake prone area" and "Let's not use that 1970's design in the future".
We shouldn't be saying, "Oh noes, we must stop using nuclear power!!"
it all depends if we have alternatives. If yes. Why not. It is not a black vs. white decision.DammitBoy said:
TheWesDude
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
DammitBoy said:
dont you mean we should be saying:
"gee, maybe these safety regulations are important and making sure that everything works? after all we are in a quite seismically active area and get tsunamis on occasion"
if they really did have all those failures on their audits... then it becomes less an issue with the plant itselves or design flaws, but rather failure to maintain it or do proper upkeep or update parts when new technology shows a better way.
Cimmerian Nights
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
I'm supposed to fly there with the wife and kids on the 31st. Thought they would have this tsunami/quake shit settled down in Tokyo, but with this radiation, fuck this trip.
Are people honestly expecting to feel any of the effects half-way around the globe?
One can only assume that is the case when they run to the pharmacies and buy a 3 years supply in 1 day.
It could possibly, however unlikely it might be, be someone that intends to ship it to Japan. Though considering it did'nt seem to be a "bulk" purchase but rather many different people doing it, I'm going to assume the worst case scenario.
It could possibly, however unlikely it might be, be someone that intends to ship it to Japan. Though considering it did'nt seem to be a "bulk" purchase but rather many different people doing it, I'm going to assume the worst case scenario.
And about 0% of those people know what iodine tablets actually do.
And just as many know that it's not exactly good for you to take them, they can actually be dangerous for you if you're unlucky or allergic to shellfish.
It's scary to hear homeopathic proponents say that they're going to send their "remedies" to assist people in Japan - that shit is outright dangerous.
It's scary to hear homeopathic proponents say that they're going to send their "remedies" to assist people in Japan - that shit is outright dangerous.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
LinkPain said:
SUTARUKA: KARU OFU FUKUSHIMA
FARAOUTO: FUKUSHIMA NUKARAGE
Fuck and to think this happened in like three hours, and suposedly there is gonna be a massive Solar storm in 2012 maybe I should have nto made that many Mayas jokes....