8.9 Earthquake in Japan

I'd really like to see journalists with at least a little knowledge of nuclear power and the construction of power plants.
That would spare us a lot of bullshit.
 
Sadly, most reporters these days are best suited to tell gossip on how Darris Shilton shat her pants, and news that actually make sense are a rarity. Plant's operator telling anything that seems as a disaster to anyone who doesn't know shit (in reality it isn't as bad as it seems) is enough to make apocalyptic expectations about second Chernobyl and such. And then dumbasses watch that crap on TV and protest on streets telling crap they don't have any idea about (France and Germany I think).
 
Most British tv channels (or at least the good ones) are at least refering to nuclear physicists and the BBC did run a segment on how it isn't like Chernobyl at all to calm people down.
 
Alphadrop said:
Most British tv channels (or at least the good ones) are at least refering to nuclear physicists and the BBC did run a segment on how it isn't like Chernobyl at all to calm people down.
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MSNBC is having reporters stand outside a reactor in California asking when will the U.S. learn from japan's mistakes.

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Edit to add: 128 million people and no looting, no civil unrest - discuss.
 
Wild hypothesis, based on cultural stereotypes: US culture is a lot more individualistic than Japanese culture. It promotes that individuals should take care of themselves, take control of their lives. Therefore when disaster strikes, Americans tend to do just about anything to ensure their own survival, even if it is at someone else's expense. Japanese culture, on the other hand, promotes that communities should take care of themselves and that a well-off community leads to well-off individuals. Discuss further.

Alternative: Japan has a large percentage of old people. Also, there are strict gun control laws and low gun ownership.
 
DarthBartus said:
(France and Germany I think).
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Idiocy doesnt know borders. And isnt bound to a single nation.

DammitBoy said:
MSNBC is having reporters stand outside a reactor in California asking when will the U.S. learn from japan's mistakes.
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Kilus said:
Crni Vuk said:
Kilus said:
A meltdown is a vague term that isn't officially used..
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A vague term ? Well if a meltdown is not a "meltdown" what is it then ?
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In the same way a fire is a fire but not every fire is a forest fire.
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If youre a firefighter maybe. But a nuclear meltdown has quite clear definitons from what I can see. But maybe I missunderstood it. Who knows.

Kilus said:
The reactor is worth billions. They always had the option of using sea water and it would have always worked. Using sea water destroys the reactor therefore it a billion dollar option when there are other coolant option around.
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Who cares how much it is worth when you have here a serious danger of contaminated ground water on a large scale eventually located deep under the reactor ? One could not even imagine the damage for the people in Japan with such a situation. Again. This is not what I AM saying but what very well known and respected experts see as possibility it doesnt mean that is exactly what will happen or that they really know what happens. It is all just speculation right now. They say that using seawater to cool the reactor like they do it now from the outside of the reactor shell is no standart procedure which is a very strong indication that the reactor is already out of control and there could be already at least a partial meltdown or in other words maximum credible accident. Yet even in such a situation the reactor has still an output of more then 10 000 Megawatt in heat. And you have to do something with all that.

Kilus said:
The media as a whole doesn't know how to report on nuclear power. The people with the correct knowledge are the plant operators so listen to what they say.
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The same people which might tell you that everything is fine while they had some accidents. I am not talking about the engineers in charge over the reactor but the company responsible for the plant. The information policy by many operating companies is questionable. We have here in Germany a few quite old nuclear reactors and the idea was to shut them down after 2000. Though the Lobby managed to increase the life-span of nearly 35 year old reactors (the oldest will be 38 this year) with aditional 12 years even though they are only construed for 40 years and there have been a lot of questions regarding the information policy. I am no enemy when it comes to nuclear energy. But when it comes to the companies which run them I will not have blind faith in all of their explanations. If there would be never ever a reason for suspiciousness particuilarly when they claim that eveything is secure we could save a lot of money with stoping those checkups each reactor has to see each quarter of the year. I am not saying the so called experts in the media know exactly what happens in the Japanese reactors right now and there is sure a lot of instrumentalisation about the situation in Japan because it is right now more interesting then J. Bieber mums alcohol problems or such. But the engineers and physicists which talk about the situation are sure not some lunatic idiots either. And the past sure has proven countless times that when it comes to accidents that concealment and cover-ups happen quite often.

Kilus said:
Chernobyl is so different to this situation that there is nothing comparable. Beyond that if there are no significant leaks who cares if something is in meltdown or not?
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The question was about radioactivity if I understood it correctly. Not the effect of explosions or a fire. I am not comparing the accident or what caused it.

The isotopes have been for a much longer time in use with the japanese reactor which gave it higher amounts of radiation compared to the Chernobyle plant which was runing only a few years before the accident. That has nothing to do with the construction or the cause of the accident. It is just about the time how long a reactor is in use. It is only about the potential radioactivity of the isotopes.

*by the way. They explain here all the time as well how Japan and Chernobyle can NOT be compared. Which is correct.
 
when CNN and whoever it was pulled out a dictionary to define what "meltdown" means, i knew the information we were going to get was not going to be worth a damn.
 
Why aren't these rectors built 2 miles under the ground? In the event of something catastrophic, you just empty 5000 tons of concrete down the hole.

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CNN is saying there has been yet another explosion and that the Japanese PM says there's now a very high risk of further radioactive materials leaking. A Sim City scenario coming to life :/
 
it could have been a vulcano under a reactor though.

Also why is Arnold with a female voice doing the report in your video >_>

SCHAPAN ! IT SAND AASH AND RACK ! THE ERRAPTN !
 
At the fukushima 1 plant there are six reactors. Three in which there has been explosions. Furthermore the fourth has had a fire in the fuel storage. now they report that reactor five and six are also having problems cooling. There are apperantly only around fifty workers left on the plant.
 
Crni Vuk said:
Also why is Arnold with a female voice doing the report in your video >_>

SCHAPAN ! IT SAND AASH AND RACK ! THE ERRAPTN !
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Yeah, WTF? Shouldn't you be able to recognise what is a German/Austrian accent? She sounds Indian.

(Gotta admit, her accent is not ideal for serious news like that - to us, that just sounds funny.)
 
There's apparently been an aftershock/precursive tremors roughly 110km SW of Tokyo.

I bloody hope it's just an separate event, they've got enough shit to deal with.
 
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