A video on the Brexit and why the UK should leave.

Do you want Britain to Leave? Or to Stay?

  • Leave

    Votes: 23 47.9%

  • Stay

    Votes: 16 33.3%

  • I don't care...

    Votes: 9 18.8%
  • Total voters
    48
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mikek17 said:
They should leave because simply stated large governments and steps toward one-world government are too dangerous to society. Turns out, with one large group heading more nested groups, the complex layers of bureaucracy can become corrupt, which endangers the people most of all. I just simply cannot trust the EU--as long as it exists there is truly no sovereignty in the nations it controls. The more that nations are split apart, the less danger they make as individuals...the same reasoning that large nations like the United States can be good, but once again become easily corrupt through each layer of politics... the United States has been viewed as a threat by some, a friend by others, but the bottom line is that our power (I live in the US) is too strong to be held by a single government (no matter what type of government it is) and it is the same thing BUT WORSE in the EU.
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And you trust your government more than the EU?
In which way is the EU by the way interfering with the sovereignty of your or any nation inside the Union? Did they deploy their non existant military force to enforce their hidious and draconic laws upon said nations?
I am with you when you criticise the EU and the bureaucracy, the lobbyism and all that. But it is in no way really much different to what happens everywher elese. And it definetly won't improve if we disband the EU. Infact, I think it would get even worse, because we get back to Pre-EU conditions.
 
Seriously, I slowly get the feeling we might be better off without you guys :p.
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Seriously, I slowly get the feeling that you are not aware Serbia isnt in the EU so you have no rights to say "we" when referring to the EU.
it is obvious that a lot mock Britain for their constant nagging on the EU man. Even though they get a fuck ton of priviliges and benefits out of it.
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I dont see the problem with renegotiating then asking the British people whether they approve of the renegotiation's.
Also maybe you should come to fucking Britain and see what its like, and why people feel the way they do and then decide what you think before you spew some condescending bullshit about "nagging".
 
I am born in Germany and I have German papers. Just saying. So I spend most of my live in the EU. And well, reaping the benefits. Like economical advantages, safety, travel, exchange of knowledge, free choice in workplaces, living and studying etc. Without the EU, we would most probably not have stuff like the LHC, a Space Program, and missing out on a fuck ton of research like fusion, which is way to expensive for one nation alone. There would be a lot more complicated trading, it would be more expensive due to taxation on goods and wares. And we would probably see more conflicts, if not necessarily militarily, definetly politicaly.
By the way, tell me, what is it like in the UK that makes it so painfull and horrible be a part of the EU? And why is it exactly the fault of the EU, and not actually the people that govern your nation.
 
And well, repeating it's benefits. Like economical advantages, safety, travel, exchange of knowledge etc. Without the EU, we would most probably not have the LHC, a Space Program, and a fuck ton of research. There would be a lot more complicated trading and probably more conflicts. If not necessarily militarily, definetly politicaly.
By the way, tell me, what is it like in the UK that makes it so painfull and horrible be a part of the EU? And why is it exactly the fault of the EU, and not actually the people that govern your nation.
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I am pro EU and agree with all of the things you are saying, its just your condescending bullshit about nagging and mockery I object to. Anyway, why did you pull this notion that I was a sceptic out of the hat when I have been pr eu the whole thread
 
Doomsdayprepper said:
Seriously, I slowly get the feeling that you are not aware Serbia isnt in the EU so you have no rights to say "we" when referring to the EU.

I dont see the problem with renegotiating then asking the British people whether they approve of the renegotiation's.
Also maybe you should come to fucking Britain and see what its like, and why people feel the way they do and then decide what you think before you spew some condescending bullshit about "nagging".
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First of all: Crni Vuk can say whatever the fuck he wants, regardless of what country he was born in.

Secondly: Something I'm missing here? Some EU secret police break into your home and break your computer? EU place a trading blockade on the British Isles? EU stop you getting bent bananas? Oh wait, none of that shit is actually happening. The EU has plenty of problems, but to suggest that any of it has even an iota of influence upon most British people's everyday lives is laughable.
 
Earth said:
Secondly: Something I'm missing here? Some EU secret police break into your home and break your computer? EU place a trading blockade on the British Isles? EU stop you getting bent bananas? Oh wait, none of that shit is actually happening. The EU has plenty of problems, but to suggest that any of it has even an iota of influence upon most British people's everyday lives is laughable.
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Just saying maybe you should come over to Britian and see why people want to go instead of sitting on a patronising high horse mocking us. Might be more productive. You see, it's that kind of attitude you just came out with, mocking people about bent bannanas and computer breakages that makes people want to leave, and trust me the is not what anybody wants.
 
I'm British mate. And from where I'm sitting you're the one on the high horse whining at everyone for not taking this stupid referendum as seriously as you.
 
Earth said:
I'm British mate. And from where I'm sitting you're the one on the high horse whining at everyone for not taking this stupid referendum as seriously as you.
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Perhaps you shouldn't come on a thread where people are seriously discussing the referendum and then complain about people taking it seriously. Anyway calm the fuck down because I sense a flame war brewing.
 
Except that you can't take this really serious ... I mean seriously? Leaving the EU? Sure! Let them have their referendum if it makes them happy. But the outcome is as clear like day, because there is no real alternative to it, unless you want a weaker Britain, with a worse economy, lots of issues and of course actually not REALLY leaving the EU, because Britain would STILL have to follow EU laws. Unless they build a wall around their isle to make Britain great again without ANY trading.
See where this is going? This whole idea that leaving the EU would do Britain anything good is simply ridiculous. That's my point. They can do their little cute referendum, but it doesn't change facts ...

Doomsdayprepper said:
I am pro EU and agree with all of the things you are saying, its just your condescending bullshit about nagging and mockery I object to. Anyway, why did you pull this notion that I was a sceptic out of the hat when I have been pr eu the whole thread
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Because I am stupid.
 
Doomsdayprepper said:
Twas a joke mate remember? You were the first person to figure out I was taking the piss
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Anyway. It's almost all over. In ten minutes voting will end and with the exit polls we'll get a pretty decent idea of what's happening with the results.
 
Earth said:
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Anyway. It's almost all over. In ten minutes voting will end and with the exit polls we'll get a pretty decent idea of what's happening with the results.
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Oh I know what you are on about. I changed my mind after I found out about the EU scientific research grants and the space initiative.

There are no exit polls we'll find out at breakfast time tommorow.
 
Yeah, but it doesn't matter what the results are, I think it will change some of the relationship between the EU and Britain. You can be certain if they stay, they will make demands again ... I am curious how much the EU is willing to give Britain this time.

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It might be a crazy thought, but who knows? Maybe everyone is simply extra pissed because of the refugees and Germany who had a slightly different stance compared to some other European nations. I am pretty sure the numbers are not so extreme like some say, where either Germany took all and the other nations like none, that's just populism. But I feel that Germany in general had a very different mindset, and it didn't ruin us in the end. So yeah ... Britain might be more pissed than usuall? No clue.
 
Crni Vuk said:
Yeah, but it doesn't matter what the results are, I think it will change some of the relationship between the EU and Britain. You can be certain if they stay, they will make demands again ... I am curious how much the EU is willing to give Britain this time.

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It might be a crazy thought, but who knows? Maybe everyone is simply extra pissed because of the refugees and Germany who had a slightly different stance compared to some other European nations. I am pretty sure the numbers are not so extreme like some say, where either Germany took all and the other nations like none, that's just populism. But I feel that Germany in general had a very different mindset, and it didn't ruin us in the end. So yeah ... Britain might be more pissed than usuall? No clue.
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Firstly don't be so sure about more demands, I cannot see us making more demands anytime soon.
Also, its looking good for remain at the moment so we could be staying, which is relieving.
 
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I wonder how fair the vote really is and what power the people actually have in this poll. Cause this whole 50-50 thing somehow doesn't look like coincidence.

I also wonder how much of the careless old people who don't care about the future of country and their children who'll live with this after voted 'leave' to make 'Britannia great again'.
 
I'm parking the russian bear outside Kremlin and watching over the world with the sunglasses and wiskey right now actually.

The careless are easy targets requiring only one bear to conquer.
 
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