Anyone Else think Shoddycast has become a Bethesda Bum-licking channel?

Doomsdayprepper said:
Thats a very good point, I concede to you guys on this one.
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NOO Don't say that! I had a long and pointless essay on the subject.

To return to the topic. I watched a few Shoddycast videos but I was put off both by the use of the ugly Gamebryo engine (especially when used to recreate Fallout and Fallout 2) and by the inclusion of Bethesda lore within the series. As others have said, and in my own opinion, Bethesda lore is just too poorly written and inconsistent with the original lore to be taken seriously.

And if anything, I'm not too keen on people telling me about lore when I can just play the game and experience it for myself. I always get the feeling on the internet that a lot of people haven't played/read/seen stuff that they talk about with authority nonetheless.

EDIT: But yeah, I think it's safe to say they've gone the way of the clickbait now:
 
Earth said:
EDIT: But yeah, I think it's safe to say they've gone the way of the clickbait now:
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The title of that video is ridiculous. I thought they did actual Fallout lore stuff? If the video title begins with the word "Could" there's a good chance it's probably filled with speculative BS used as clickbait for ad revenue.
 
Doomsdayprepper said:
Have you watched it? He gives some pretty good arguments
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I don't watch speculative clickbait, especially when it's something as silly as "Could Fallout and Skyrim be the same universe?"

Fallout 4 has really brought out a lot of clickbaiting youtubers.

"Could Ancient Aliens and actual Super Mutants have created the Fallout games?!" I suppose they could, but I'm not interested in a long video of such nonsense.

I'm pretty sure when they made Fallout 1 they weren't thinking "let's set this in the Elder Scrolls universe!"
 
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Irwin John Finster said:
I don't watch speculative clickbait, especially when it's something as silly as "Could Fallout and Skyrim be the same universe?"

Fallout 4 has really brought out a lot of clickbaiting youtubers.

"Could Ancient Aliens have created the Fallout games?!" I suppose they could, but I'm not interested in a long video of such nonsense. I'm pretty sure when they made Fallout 1 they weren't thinking "let's set this in the Elder Scrolls universe!"
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Its not actually clickbait, its a well thought out video, try it dude.
 
About that I wouldn't be surprised I mean both skyrim and Fallout 4 are dumb and make no sense so let's make it like this.

Due to dragonborn using an op shout the worlds collide. Go on a great adventure searching for your uncle and experience 2 amazing games at the same time. (Skyrim 2 half + DLCs =120$ just as much as Fallout new york) /s
 
Doomsdayprepper said:
They put some real effort and time in the video.
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Didn't sound like it. I've heard more creative ways of explaining Tamriel or Cyrodiil or what ever the name of the world was there as being an alien experiment in a couple of paragraphs than "radiation-science and looots of time create lizard and cat people and elves" in ten minutes of continuous speech. It's a cute bit of playful fanfic, though.
 
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I couldn't care less about Shoddycast, but really @Doomsdayprepper ? We are talking about the Fallout series, well-known for its coherent and cohesive world, and for that to happen the makers of the game relies on, guess what, coherent and cohesive writing so that the setting didn't just fall apart. We're not talking about realism here, but rather, like Crni Vuk said, verisimilitude. What is 'verisimilitude'?


Skip to 8.29 for the definition, but I suggest watching the entire video to follow him to that definition.

So, it's completely wrong for Pete Hines to state he's 'not interested in discussing realism' when the guy he's talking to is not discussing realism at all. Hell, Fallout 2 also got heavily criticized for some contradiction here and there, and guess what? Chris Avellone wrote the Fallout Bible and gave formal statement that it was his mistake that Mrs. Bishop falsely stated she was Jet-drugged before Jet was even invented. Compare that to how Bethesda deal with this kind of criticism, and you know which one's more preferable to handle the series.

Heck, the Elder Scrolls series, which is Bethesda's baby, got this kind of stupid ass treatment where the world wasn't handled with care anymore post-Morrowind, as evidenced by the video above. One thing that I know is that the original writer of the Elder Scrolls somehow left Bethesda post-Morrowind, hence you see that after the writer goes out of his way to describe Cyrodiil, Bethesda instead presented a generic looking city in Oblivion.

So yeah, the video asking "Could Fallout 4 and Skyrim ever take place in the same universe?" might be right. Fallout 4's just doesn't make sense in the Fallout universe and have no place among the series, so might as well call it The Elder Scrolls: Fallout of Commonwealth, especially since the Vertibirds there act like a Dragon.

If even Bethesda didn't care about the coherence and cohesiveness of the setting, then neither should you. Fallout 4 is NOT canon, case closed.
 
I lose brain cells from looking at the thumbnails of their videos. It's become very obvious lately that their target audience is the same people who watch MrMattyPlays
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I also really don't care for the story teller videos. It's a nice way to introduce new players to the lore, but the guy sounds like the real 40 year old virgin. Not to mention that I can't take any of the Bethesda lore videos seriously, because Shoddycast actually takes the lore seriously and it ends up coming across as very stupid. For example, the most recent storyteller video is about commonwealth raiders. We all know that no thought was put into the raiders, but Shoddycast makes a lore video anyway.
 
Its honestly the dumbest debate ever. Here are a few reasons why this would never work out

1. Earth and Nirn are 2 different planets in 2 different solar systems with different geography

2. Magic isn't in Fallout

3. None of the races in TES are even mentioned in Fallout

4. This is a stupid hypothesis and who ever made it is stupid and probably has the same IQ as a breath mint

5. Fallout wasn't created by lazy devs who cut corners all the time
 
Crni Vuk said:
Someone could probably put a lot of effort and time in a video to come up with arguments why the Alien franchise and Star Wars might play in the same universe.
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Does it mean it's something that we should take serious though? I would say. Naw :P.
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:roffle: This would make for some interesting fan-fiction but that's all it should be. Fan-fiction. It would make the prequel films far more interesting and tense (regardless on how you feel about them).

Cross-over speculation should not have to be the subject of a video if the content-makers know what they are doing and what to discuss which is a shame since Shoddycast seem to be making more click-bait as of late (even if they do spin more discussion around such a click-bait title). There are plenty of good discussion that can be generated from Fallout, as NMA proves frequently (though a new Fallout 4 complaint thread always seems to pop up around here as well). Besides the world of Fallout and Nirn are far too different from each other so there should not even need to be a discussion.

Irwin John Finster said:
Elder Scrolls 6 will have Deathclaws and Super Mutants.
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Plus we will defeat the Thalmor in TES VI with a nuclear bomb from the Fallout-verse that landed there via convenient time rift.
 
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