Seems I might want to wait and see. I have plenty of other stuff to do gamewise and life-wise in the meantime lol. I appreciate you digging around for me.
ATOM RPG 1.0 is released!
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Haven't played loads but the camera is the main sore point for me too. Wasteland 2 had the same problem. It's a shame that devs opt for adjustable camera when it adds nothing to gameplay but do add to dev time. As a player I am forced to keep tilting, rotating and zooming in/out just to make sure I don't miss out on objects of interest. It's a minigame I am not a fan of as the clunky mechanics of it detaches me from the game world. A static camera would have been more enjoyable and the devs would have only had to design for one perspective.
Black Angel
Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus
Already have it on my Steam library, my man. Can't yet get into it because I don't want to ruin the momentum of my virgin STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl playthrough, though. Will jump right into ATOM after that.
Apparently there are references to Pokemon, Fallout New Vegas' Courier, "did you just assumed my...", Mad Max, and other stuff.
I hope they don't feel forced.
Black Angel
Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus
Hearing there's references to Pokemon is new to me, but references to Fallout, Mad Max, and even other post-apocalyptic contemporaries (tell me if it's the right word or not) like Stalker is inevitable, I guess. Current Year™ meme is mixed bag, though.
Also, based on who you are, your understandings of Russians and its culture, the game can be really amazing or insufferable. A guy in the Codex who's a Russian was rather disappointed with all the Russians literature and pop-culture references, and the references to other games and memes doesn't help it. Meanwhile, another guy who have a degree of understanding in Russians literature and culture came to love it so much, he spawned a string of discussion that Infinitron had to split into its own thread (you might not be able to read it for now if you're not registered to the Codex for 1 year, though).
Norzan
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Home key is exactly what i wanted and it was for the camera to follow my character. It was so far my major gripe but this fixes it.Either the devs forgot to include an in-game list of hotkeys and the ability to rebind them, or they're currently working on it atm, so to help those poor souls confused about hotkeys:
I found it via Steam Guide
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This is the part that matters the most to me. You can have a million references but when you're going out of your way to make them, it devalues the experience.
I did ask my friend about that pokemon reference and he sent me this:
ironmask
A Smooth-Skin
Damn, this looks like it's going to have fallout 2's humor.
Bought the game full price thinking it would be the first decent fallout-like in recent years, big disappointment.
This has to the most generic game I've played in a long time, I know that's an indy studio but still, there's no soul to this game, all it managed to do was to make me want to reinstall fallout 1 for the billionth time... I played this game for about 4 hours, I really tried to get into it but I don't even want to get back to it, I think I'll uninstall.
This has to the most generic game I've played in a long time, I know that's an indy studio but still, there's no soul to this game, all it managed to do was to make me want to reinstall fallout 1 for the billionth time... I played this game for about 4 hours, I really tried to get into it but I don't even want to get back to it, I think I'll uninstall.
Oh damn. That doesn't sound good... I still want it though.
But, it can't be worst than Krai Mira EC, and I suffered through that until I finished it.
mef
Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?
that wasn't exactly subtleI did ask my friend about that pokemon reference and he sent me this:
Ashot Episkoposyan.
i wasn't saying anything, since i haven't played it yet, but that's the vibe i got from the trailer, the steam page and the overall presentation. it all felt like they had no idea what to make, they just wanted to make a game like fallout and wasteland
Nirv
Ghoulrilla
I always got the impression that it looked like a generic Fallout clone. Something inspired by Fallout is fine, but it didn't seem like it had its own identity beyond just, "Hey guys, remember Fallout?"
I do not plan on buying it.
Black Angel
Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus
What part of it is generic and soulless to you?
I've only booted up the game few times just to fiddle with character creation and seeing the first part before our character can begin moving to new areas, but I'd say you couldn't be more wrong to call it "generic Fallout clone". I wouldn't say it's generic to begin with, and it being a 'Fallout clone' didn't go as far as being post-apocalyptic and with gameplay mechanics that's near perfect copy of SPECIAL-skills-perks/traits system. If anything, 'Soviet Fallout' is the more correct terms to call this game. The thread for this game in RPGCodex already went to so many details as to how it has Russian literature and culture references.
Unless, all the references flew over your head, and because of it that you think it's generic, I guess I could see where you're coming from. However, do remember that Fallout 1&2 was chokeful of pop-culture reference. Fallout 2 might've gone overboard with that, but Fallout 1 was pretty subtle doing it.
Good for you if you don't find this generic. I work in the video game industry as an artist so my tastes have a strong emphasis on visuals.
It gave me the same impression as the Wasteland remake, character and environment models look like they come from the same kind of generic banks of 3D models, when I say there's no soul to it, compare it with Fallout 1 that was a huge success in term of world building and the uniqueness of its setting and visuals, and one of the main draw for me. Wasteland has been using tons of free and paying models from the unity asset store, and I bet that Atom RPG team has been doing the same. The result is something unappealing and tasteless.
There's no atmosphere, nothing that makes me want to see and learn more about the game. I may sound harsh, but don't forget that I bought the game full price and I had certain expectations which were not met.
It gave me the same impression as the Wasteland remake, character and environment models look like they come from the same kind of generic banks of 3D models, when I say there's no soul to it, compare it with Fallout 1 that was a huge success in term of world building and the uniqueness of its setting and visuals, and one of the main draw for me. Wasteland has been using tons of free and paying models from the unity asset store, and I bet that Atom RPG team has been doing the same. The result is something unappealing and tasteless.
There's no atmosphere, nothing that makes me want to see and learn more about the game. I may sound harsh, but don't forget that I bought the game full price and I had certain expectations which were not met.
Norzan
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Completely disagree about the atmosphere, i think it's fantastic. Already enjoying all the world building, like the Circus, Abandoned Factory and the first town. And i'm about to go to the Roaring Forest, which sounds like a very interesting place.
Black Angel
Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus
I see where you're coming from, but it's probably the very first time I see someone who judged a game, a cRPG no less, like Fallout and especially ATOM based on its visual. What about the gameplay mechanics? The writings? Stuff like quests and narrative designs? Choice&consequence and reactivity? You know, a lot of stuff that's praised far more in Fallout than the visuals, assets, and aesthetics.
Also, "Fallout but in Soviet" is quite unique setting and might warrant a lot of worldbuilding, don't you think?
Valdetiosi
Valde
Tanked 7 hours in the game and want to say this:
Having not accustomed to isometric gameplay of Fallout 1 and 2, I start to feel bit familiarity on the combat, looting and quests here. It almost same start as with 2 that CQC is much more benefitical at start than guns, so I ended up doing unarmed build. I do like how there's skill checks like in New Vegas, where it was not just speech that governed it, but also other skills as well (and I guess it's less of a chance based, as save scumming doesn't work with them). There's option for aimed shots, but I don't know yet if they do anything.
The perk system is like perk tree, as you unlock the linear path of perks as you select them, so it's not about needing requirements for skills or attributes. I can see though that it clearly makes for too linear and pre determinated build with system like this. There's hunger, poison and radiation meters that you have to take care of which raising up too high causes stats aliments. Drinking Vodka is the cure for that, although in chance of getting addiction and hangover (which you cure with salted cucumbers).
I don't think the game also has any karma or reputation system. While I did do quests for the first town and helped out people, there wasn't anything bigger consequence for it, like discounts or NPC coming to give daily item.
Right now, I'm stuck at the cave from random encounter, having a groundhogs day loop with a gorilla, that can smack me on the ground and make me waste turns just to get up.
Having not accustomed to isometric gameplay of Fallout 1 and 2, I start to feel bit familiarity on the combat, looting and quests here. It almost same start as with 2 that CQC is much more benefitical at start than guns, so I ended up doing unarmed build. I do like how there's skill checks like in New Vegas, where it was not just speech that governed it, but also other skills as well (and I guess it's less of a chance based, as save scumming doesn't work with them). There's option for aimed shots, but I don't know yet if they do anything.
The perk system is like perk tree, as you unlock the linear path of perks as you select them, so it's not about needing requirements for skills or attributes. I can see though that it clearly makes for too linear and pre determinated build with system like this. There's hunger, poison and radiation meters that you have to take care of which raising up too high causes stats aliments. Drinking Vodka is the cure for that, although in chance of getting addiction and hangover (which you cure with salted cucumbers).
I don't think the game also has any karma or reputation system. While I did do quests for the first town and helped out people, there wasn't anything bigger consequence for it, like discounts or NPC coming to give daily item.
Right now, I'm stuck at the cave from random encounter, having a groundhogs day loop with a gorilla, that can smack me on the ground and make me waste turns just to get up.
Black Angel
Grand Inquisitor of the Ordo Hereticus
What the hell? Why?! You have homework now, son. Go get used to Fallout 1&2!
Also, woah, an unarmed character for virgin playthrough? I saw so many people saying it's not exactly as viable as guns or even melee weapon characters. Still, at least this game is party-based, so there's that.
Yeah, the perk system being barebone and uninspired is one of the most complained thing about this game. Kind of a shame since the traits are pretty good, though much more in regards to being oriented towards gameplay mechanics (and not fun-oriented like in Fallout with Bloody Mess, Jinxed, and the likes).
Drinking vodka to cure radiation is apparently a myth or whatever it is amongst Eastern Europeans, so it's cool to see another game making vodka as cure to radiation aside from STALKER.
Yeah, there's no karma, just straightforward reputation system.
Atomboy said:
You're soloing this playthrough? There should be companions that you can pick up. Unarmed was said to be not exactly as viable solo as other playstyle, so it's better to have a party.Right now, I'm stuck at the cave from random encounter, having a groundhogs day loop with a gorilla, that can smack me on the ground and make me waste turns just to get up.
Valdetiosi
Valde
Sorry, it's hard to do. It works better with Atom RPG as it is not as "Slow".
I don't care much about the perk system, but at least it has clear path for me to follow to become better at what I main with. Also I think Soviet Fallout wouldn't be good term for this game, it should be like if CGS decided to make STALKER but instead as isometric crpg.
I do have another companion you get from just talking to the guy you were supposed to talk, but he dies in the moments and can't use shit with guns or melee.