Bethesda’s Pete Hines Fallout 4 interview

[Walpknut]

Well to be fair Hines wouldn't be able to answer any of that, he is just the PR guy, not the lead director, his job also consist of being as vague as possible. I think it's a waste of time to interview a PR person....

 

[TransgenderVaultDeweller]

Ah, I got to give my daily shit posting to Bethesda. This company never ceases to amaze me how such a shitty-mediorce, Lazy Writer esq talentless hacks get such a good vibe with the current gaming community, I think that speaks loudly more on the community than the company. Regardless, Bethesda's promotional material have been nothing short but Micheal Bay Film. Explosions, Explosions and nothing in between.

I think if they're ever was any shred of hope and respectablity and something that resembles competence, died when Bethesda's reminded us that Ayy Lmao's caused the great war.

 

[zegh8578]

I really hate that word, "Immersion", if we are to actually take it for what it really means, anyone who actually gets "Immersed" in game should probably be on medication and wear a helmet daily.
A better word would be Invested or Compelled. But I guess those are not "EPIC" enough to sell games.

It's also a bad word to apply to a game since it's a massively subjective property. One person can be "immersed/invested/compelled" in/by a game and another person might find that it's the most boring thing they've ever encountered and both people would be absolutely correct. It's not a property of games, it's a property of specific people's experiences with games. At this point you might as well just go with "fun" or "interesting." Even if the game does enrapture you for weeks at a time, there's a lot of different ways a game can do that; so talk about why it's compelling, not that it's compelling.

I'm not sure if anybody bases their purchasing decisions on promises of immersion, so it's of questionable value as a marketing buzzword as is.

Talked about this very word just today: Immersion, and how it is used, when in reality, people have been immersed by books for centuries, and before that, wall-reliefs and poems carved into stones. Immersion is all in the mind, and everyone - including modern humans know this, we just forget. Just remember the immersion first time you hear fairy-tales, as a kid, or a grandpa tells you some story, and you can absolutely visualize it in your mind, and feel it, and be impressed by it - even for life!

When I played with my siblings, when they were toddlers, I noticed others would hide their own mouths, so to almost... act like ventriloquists, while their plush toys "talked". I didn't do that, I always talked openly, right into the air, but with a fake teddy-voice - and the kid - completely and utterly immersed, no problem at all! There never was a problem.

You can even see it in those "Kids react" videos on youtube, where they try out 80s computer games, and within seconds, they are completely hooked - and totally immersed!

 

[AgentBJ09]

That may be, but PR is the public face of a company. If he's talking about softball stuff, that gives the impression that Bethesda isn't willing to let their employees answer harder questions in interviews.

 

[Walpknut]

You are implying that gamers even care about that. This is just to fill in space for news, nobody pays attention to "Interview with PR manage" because everyone knows those are kind of wastes of time.

 

[TransgenderVaultDeweller]

You are implying that gamers even care about that. This is just to fill in space for news, nobody pays attention to "Interview with PR manage" because everyone knows those are kind of wastes of time.

A good news head line that we all love to see.. "Bethesda, Facing Class Action lawsuit for lying about 300 things. Tom Howard fired." I hope they get fucking sued. In the famous words of another person. "You are dancing on thin ice, [Bethesda] And when you move one too many times, I'll [Pissed off consumer] will be underneath ready to pounce on your ass."

 

[Walpknut]

Meh, people don't really care being lied to by Bethesda, some will even bend over backwards finding ways to twist words into them not lying and some others are not even aware of their lies in the first place.

 

[TransgenderVaultDeweller]

Don't underestimate the limited behavior of the Bethesda fanbase. Remember Mass Effect 3? Huge backlash from everyone too a huge bioware fan, To a a simple consumer.

 

[naossano]

Don't have attention span for dialogs. Is well paid to work on the Fallout IP.
There is a contradiction somewhere...

 

[Mr Fish]

Seriously "Brilliant world design"[...]

Well, in a way it is brilliant, because look at how many people it is fooling into thinking it is amazing. It's not brilliant in a positive artistic sense. It's brilliantly deceptive as it can distract so many people from seeing that they are just going through the same repetitive sludge they have always been.

 

[Crni Vuk]

The good thing is we have even more ammo to spew out at the legion of fanatics that will eat the shit up. That dialog comment pretty much drove the nail in the coffin for the Fallout series.

http://kotaku.com/fallout-3-isnt-really-an-rpg-1725444327

Fallout is not a RPG. Hahaha.

All the Fallout 3 praise made me puke in my mouth.

Well I really could only shake my head when I watched a few days ago a short video on Youtube reading some of the commentary by fellow youtubers on Todd Howard - The Road to Skyrim. The kind of really strong admiration people feel is really confusing. Calling him the Quentin Tarantino of gaming and such. Which makes me wonder, because I feel he is closer to Justin Bieber, if anything. But if someone is known if the works of Tarantino, which in my opinion is a real master in his craft, how could you get the idea to compare him with Todd Howard? I mean I really would LOVE to see the same kind of quality in storys with Bethesda games.

Maybe it's an age thing. I don't know. Makes me feel old.

I am pretty sure I am younger than whoever wrote this article, so that can't be it.

Maybe mentally?

No seriously. I certainly met such individuals a couple of times.

 

[naossano]

Not saying he is bad, but Q.Tarantino is way too much overrated. There is at least 50 better movie writters/directors currently active.

 

[Moosick]

Tarantino is just a director who is very good at making a self-aware, pulpy, comic-inspired movie where everything is larger than life. He's kind of what happens when a more independent director sticks with his vision through success, but is never quite groundbreaking or experimental enough to push the mainstream away, never quite enough to really 'wow' the underground audiences. For that alone he is worth watching at least once. I don't think Howard has that comical self-awareness. Throwing in pop-culture references and the very seldom meta joke really do not a cake make. The industries and cultures of the two mediums are very different. Most games that try and do that either swing and miss, or repeatedly punch you in the stomach with misery and death. Perhaps The Stanley Parable, with it's cliche discussion of freedom and authorship, made accessible to the general gaming community by means of self-referential humour? The game(and medium) is still pretty far behind other mediums with the ideas it's working with.

 

[Walpknut]

Todd Howard is more comparable to either Michael Bay or Rob Liefeld. Maybe it's just a matter of time, Liefeld used to be hot shit back in the day, with many qualifying him as a genius and many others copying him, then people wised up.

 

[Moosick]

Anyone who though Liefeld was good probably didn't get enough sleep.

 

[djmani]

MOD EDIT: I vatted your previous post with reason and told you to be civil, if you insist on flaming, offending, trolling, whatever, you'll get strikes and eventually a ban. From me, that is; other less friendly moderators may just ban you outright.

 

[MercenarySnake]

You are implying that gamers even care about that. This is just to fill in space for news, nobody pays attention to "Interview with PR manage" because everyone knows those are kind of wastes of time.

A good news head line that we all love to see.. "Bethesda, Facing Class Action lawsuit for lying about 300 things. Tom Howard fired." I hope they get fucking sued. In the famous words of another person. "You are dancing on thin ice, [Bethesda] And when you move one too many times, I'll [Pissed off consumer] will be underneath ready to pounce on your ass."

I would enjoy the day something like that happens, I can't stand how those hardcore Bethesda fans eat up anything they throw at them.

 

[Mr Fish]

Imagine if we could be that excited about a Fallout game.

 

[raynor009]

MOD EDIT: don't feed trolls, please.

 

[MercenarySnake]

Imagine if we could be that excited about a Fallout game.

If Bethesda knew how to create a proper Fallout game. I wish they would allow another company that respects the series to create another Fallout game.