Bethesda’s Pete Hines Fallout 4 interview

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SikTh said:
That is the videogame equivelant of watching the Simpsons, week in, week out though, knowing you should have stopped at some point in the late 90s (maybe earlier actually)... wouldn't you just rather keep the experience sacred? 5 minutes with Fallout 3 definitely scarred the way I viewed the series. I had my fingers burnt once, I don't see the fruits of flogging that horse...or horseshit, as this game will 99% likely prove to be.

Also --Do the Evolution is one of the most beautiful 4 minutes of animation, music video or otherwise! :grin:
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I'm a glutton for punishment. Besides I'll be doing a LP for it.

And yes Do the Evolution is the shit.
 
What the hell, IVONA is almost as good like Bethesdas voice actors, in some cases even better.

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neat they even have different languages to chose from! lulz you have to use something like a German voice to talk English or a French language to talk German. Its awesom :D

But seriously I can totally see this technology eventually one day getting good enough to replace most voice actors!
 
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Crni Vuk said:
Yeah, but I would not be surprised if that was a decision that came from the marketing department or what ever. Because it sells I guess. Look! We did it like Mass Effect, just better! You don't have to live with Sherpard, they can call you fuckface now!

I am curious how many more resources they wasted on such meaningless stuff instead of actually ... you konw getting a second writer or no clue maybe even just a second voice actor.
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Only problem I have with this is I really don't think you can buy a better story, or better game design in general.

FWIW it worked insomuch as a buzz-generating device.
 
Looks retrofuturistic, right!?

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Androids that look just like people!

WOW.

So advanced.

Much work to be done.

Makes me yearn for the days when there was actual differences implied by character descriptions.

You know, the dwarves, the ghouls that weren't just ugly human models, that really fat guy...
 
TorontRayne said:
Looks retrofuturistic, right!?

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So... Harkness? What about him? Shall we chalk it up to lore inconsistency, retcon or that Bethesda didn't think far ahead enough or that they were limited by their engine or whatever? Cause the way things are going I wouldn't mind some more fuel in the fire with lore inconsistency.

Anyway. Still stupid. The ZAX super computers had AI in them and required an entire room and Institute managed to squeeze all of that into a cranium? Yeah yeah yeah, 200 years of advancement in science bla bla bla. That part will only make sense if 'everything' by the institute shows 200 years of progress. If they managed to squeeze a ZAX into a cranium then their version of implants should be able to turn humans into super-humans (think Marvel and DC) and their Stimpaks should be able to practically cure ghoulification.
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Oh god...
We're going to be able to become ghouls and cure ghoulification, aren't we?
 
I am willing to give the Androids a chance if they are done in a competent manner, maybe even retcon shit so that Harkness claims were self delussions more than anything. I still won't buy the game at full price (or depending on how much they fuck up, even at all).
I mean, they could even pull something similar to the Big MT to explain why would anyone even bother with such a project in the Post Apocalypse.

No idea why they go an add androids into the game but can't seem to be able to have more than 1 body type for everyone. They could just resize skeletons to get shorter people and even dwarves. Making someone fat requires a separate set of animations after a certain point so they don't end up clipping with their own stomachs while walking, but they are a multi million dollar company with a supposed 7 year development cycle, not a small indie dev.
 
I just don't see androids as something that really fitts in to the fallout setting. If its done well? Sure, it can be enjoybale. But it will be just New Reno all over again ... well done, but doesn't fitt. On the other side I don't see how Beth will really do something with it, like a real inteligent plot that isnt your 0815 SCI-FI cliche. If done well, I could really accept it as part of Fallout maybe. But they will most probably just ham-fist that omg! Androids are slaves now! But they are kinda people too! In to it. You know, it would be REALLY interesting if they could at least scratch on the surface of Android - Human relationships, but that requires somewhat inteligent writing. Like what it really means to be human, what definies it? Could be very interesting. But ... Bethesda ...
 
What still bugs me is this simple question; where the hell does the Institute get its resources from to build these things?
Plastics, metals, fabricated components like transistors, chips, or conductors, scaled down electric engines and so on.

Ask any manufacturer of these and he or she will probably tell you from which countries they get the raw resources, through which refining and half fabrication stages they have to go to before it resembles something that can be moulded, melted into shape, or become such a state that they can be put together.
You know, an industrial infrastructure.

In a region that does not even have something close to resembling industry with exception of what is crafted by hand by craftsmen, where does this stuff come from? Salvage? Perhaps you find enough intact material and components to assemble two or three of these androids but I doubt they would look pretty.

And what is exactly the point? Are the scientists of the Institute so bored in their isolated laboratories that they just put together androids when there is a whole world out there that needs to be rebuild? (not to mention, where do they get their life essentials from?)
Reason why we in the real world can spend time and resources on designing and building robots is because we have the basics on food, water, shelter and such covered, and in general don't face immediate threats that could take these away or kill us.

If they need automated labor, just reclaim all those still working robots that seem to be around everywhere and reprogram them as laborers and security forces. The scientists probably just have to rig some giant antennae to send out override signals and call all the working robots to their facility.
 
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I think the main problem is that there are so many great ideas, but... knowing Bethesda none of them will be used. Is Emil writing Fallout 4? If he is... Fallout 4's story is promised to fail. Goddamn failed in Fallout 3... I am strongly against androids, because their use will be hamfisted and in my opinion they just don't work in a Fallout settings. Androids feel as if they're taking away from the actual Fallout setting and becoming Bethesda's own, post apocalyptic, retro future, with surprisingly high tech in some fields and shit in others (androids and then we have shotguns) called 'Fallout'. I can only swallow Fallout 4 IF... everything in it is considered non-canon.
 
I don't mind androids as they fit the retro 50s mindset, but I think they should all be Pre War, mostly broken down, and even the functional ones as a dumb as a brick because the limits in scaled down computer technology.
They should make Protectrons look like robotic geniuses.
 
If they make it so that the Institue actively has a working society around them it would it still need a lot of justification, lots of lore. And Bethesda is not big on that other than stablishing old "EPIC BATTLES!" and the like.
 
The Dutch Ghost said:
I don't mind androids as they fit the retro 50s mindset, but I think they should all be Pre War, mostly broken down, and even the functional ones as a dumb as a brick because the limits in scaled down computer technology.
They should make Protectrons look like robotic geniuses.
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I don't agree with Androids. Look at the super computers! They have an AI but they're massive! And here comes Bethesda, claiming that Androids with a small cranium can house an AI so advanced. It's continuity error.
 
TorontRayne said:
Looks retrofuturistic, right!?
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You don't get it? It makes total sense. Here, let me break it down for you.

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Retro.

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Futuristic.

Nailed it! I'd be interested in how they explained the sudden appearance of androids, thus microelectronics. Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't the original developers explicitly mention that Fallout was a world without microelectronics? That could just be my interpretation of the setting. Granted, we do have things like the PipBoy so maybe it's just that microelectronics were never miniaturized to "modern" levels, which would be what, 90's levels? It does look like the androids might be bio-mechanical, which would be better. Do we know the state of genetic engineering in Fallout? The GECK is pretty advanced so there might be a path to explain it with talented writing...
 
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