Hardboiled Android
Vault Fossil
that doesn't look too different from the gameplay
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Vault Fossil
that doesn't look too different from the gameplay
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
1 endurance in New Vegas gave you a starting 120 HP with 0% rad and Poison resistance.
A Varmint rifle does 21 to 36.5 damage per shot so five shots would kill you with no armor and 1 Endurance against the weakest damage the Varmint Rifle does, and that's without criticals or headshots. The enemy more prone to carrying Varmint Rifles are the jackals and the Powder gangers at lower levels. Altho those gangs are more commonly seen with 10mm pistols and dynamite which hit for considerably more.
A Varmint rifle does 21 to 36.5 damage per shot so five shots would kill you with no armor and 1 Endurance against the weakest damage the Varmint Rifle does, and that's without criticals or headshots. The enemy more prone to carrying Varmint Rifles are the jackals and the Powder gangers at lower levels. Altho those gangs are more commonly seen with 10mm pistols and dynamite which hit for considerably more.
Stanislao Moulinsky
Vault Fossil
Oh, right. I made calculations using default (5) End instead of 1 End. Whoops. But according to the wiki the Varmint Rifle deals 18 damage point per shot, halve that value because of Very Easy and you can survive 14 no-headshot no-critical no-armor shots.
The Varmint Rifle is among the weakest weapons in New Vegas, what kind of weapons are used against the PC in the video (can't watch it right now)?
The Varmint Rifle is among the weakest weapons in New Vegas, what kind of weapons are used against the PC in the video (can't watch it right now)?
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
Wait I am kind of confused, it says Damage is 18 bt Damage per shot is 21.9..... which one is the one to use in calculations?
Also it seems like the Raiders are using Laser weapons if the Player picking that stupid Crank laser weapon from them is anythign to go from.
Also it seems like the Raiders are using Laser weapons if the Player picking that stupid Crank laser weapon from them is anythign to go from.
DPS means damage per second, not damage per shot.
Raiders with laser rifles... That annoys me greatly. I personally preferred it when energy weapons were of limited access, where only the most advanced factions could get them. Now we have raiders with lasers and if some predictions are right, makeshift power armor... It's going downhill I tell ya.
PossibleCabbage
Vault 22 Survivor
Fiends had all sorts of laser and plasma rifles in New Vegas, and that was more or less fine. Presumably they were getting them from wherever it was the Van Graffs were getting them.
I think the justification for "you can get energy weapons at low levels" sort of goes out the window when Energy Weapons is no longer a skill, though.
To be honest, fiends with lasers kinda annoyed me too. There is no way those junkies would be able to maintain such sophisticated weapons, they would fall apart quickly in their hands. There is just no justification for them to have such advanced gear other than "the PC has to get his energy weapons from *somewhere* that is not BoS". The same way you get those bright followers corpses scattered in random places with energy weapons beside them. It's just a nod towards players who want to use energy weapons so that they can have them pretty much right away. It really rustled my jimmies the first time I played FNV.
Dunno, the Fiends are at least somewhat organised with leaders, bases and even limited interaction with the player character. With the Van Graffs being rather shady energy-arms-dealers I can see how the Fiends could get their hands on energy weapons... Yeah, it's just rationalising
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TorontoReign
Guest
The Fiends pick up their energy weapons from the people they kill. They can't maintain them either which is why they are all falling apart. Did they get weapons from Vault 3?
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And whom do they kill to get this many EWs? The Van Graffs in their combat armor? Their patrons, who probably never leave the strip? or maybe BoS paladins?
Edit: I don't think it would have this many weapons. As far as I remember, vault 101 was said to have enough weapons to arm... 10 people... And those were regular 10mm guns.
Edit: I don't think it would have this many weapons. As far as I remember, vault 101 was said to have enough weapons to arm... 10 people... And those were regular 10mm guns.
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TorontoReign
Guest
I know the Van Graffs planned on selling to the Legion so it wouldn't be unheard of for them to deal with the Fiends. I'm having trouble recalling what the game actually said about it.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
The fiends got their equipment from raiding Vault 3 and regularly attacking the caravans that made trips to the strip, which included Van Graff's caravans. You can even find a group of Fiends guarding a "Van Graff's stolent goods crate" on the northern side of the map. So it's implied they mostly get their weapons from there nowadays.
Isn't one of the key aspects of laser and plasma weaponry in lore that it is easy to maintain and operate? No bullet drop, no recoil, no need for oil, no moving parts to get sand and dust clogging.
Also, I kind of assumed that the Fiends' energy weapons came from Caesar. The Legion never use energy weapons, somebody in-game says that he suspects the legion are stirring up the fiends, I put two and two together and made 5, and thought that any energy weapons the legion scavenged were distributed to groups like the fiends who were disrupting NCR operations. I was actually quite surprised when the whole Legion-fiends link was never played any further than that throwaway comment.
Also, I kind of assumed that the Fiends' energy weapons came from Caesar. The Legion never use energy weapons, somebody in-game says that he suspects the legion are stirring up the fiends, I put two and two together and made 5, and thought that any energy weapons the legion scavenged were distributed to groups like the fiends who were disrupting NCR operations. I was actually quite surprised when the whole Legion-fiends link was never played any further than that throwaway comment.
Hardboiled Android
Vault Fossil
Allow me to re-direct you to my Dogmeat picture.
He gets the wind up laser rifle (that still uses ammo somewhat annoyingly) from the dude with the sick hat, the same hat Preston Garvey wears- therefore he's probably a dead Minuteman, not a raider.
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In case of laser rifles you have to make sure that the beam is focused, that the laser light is at the right wavelength and so on. I'm sure plasma rifles have to be calibrated too. There is no way the fiends would have the know-how to use them for long.
Also, in NW generally EWs have lower durability than regular weapons. (At least when it comes to rifles)
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
Uhmmm no, the Legion actually hates the fiends, and in any ending they take over the Fiends a summarily executed. The Fiend's EWs come from raiding Vault 3 and Van Graffs Cravans.
They also have no great love for the Great Khans, but aren't above using them for their own ends, but that's neither here nor there. I know there is no canon link between the Legion and the Fiends, it was a conclusion I jumped to while playing, before reading background lore and spoilers.
Walpknut
This ghoul has seen it all
But they assimilate the Great Khans they don't anihilate them like the Fiends, the Fiends are pests for every single faction in the game. I mean Curtis does inform Fiends of NCR patrols but I don't think they would go to the trouble of actively helping them or even giving them EWs. Also Curtis is more of a spy sabotaging them so if there is an ycooperation is probably done through Frumentarii and without the Fiends even knowing they are being helped.