Bethesda planning a survival overhaul. Has hell frozen over?

Discussion in 'Fallout 4' started by Willy Rogers, Feb 11, 2016.

  1. Willy Rogers

    Willy Rogers Nothing better to do.

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    Jun 15, 2015
  2. cordelionreaver

    cordelionreaver Look, Ma! Two Heads!

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    Nov 29, 2015
    Considering how much they screwed up pretty much everything in 4. I don't think this will turn out well.
     
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  3. Millim

    Millim The Big Straight Orderite

    Oct 13, 2010
    If they rip it straight from New Vegas, I would be happy.
    I'm doing a survival run now on New Vegas and it's pretty challenging.

    So a Hardcore Mode on 4 would definitely make me want to do a replay.
     
  4. MercenarySnake

    MercenarySnake Kept you waiting huh?

    Aug 22, 2015
    Will they put in good quests and locations? No? Meh that won't keep me invested in playing this horse turd. How much you wanna bet that they'll put it in a DLC.
     
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  5. Jogre

    Jogre It's all JO'Ger now

    Oct 25, 2015
    Bethesda is known for making promises that sound impressive, but really aren't.

    "Fallout 3 has 200 endings" - Meaning 200 combinations of slides, none of which have any narration over whatsoever.

    "Fallout 4 has 10,000 lines of dialogue" -Probably not too impressive when you do the math, or when you think how many of them are describing Radiants.

    "See that Mountain?, You can climb it." -You can walk awkwardly up it in a way that seems like climbing

    It will be nowhere near as impressive as it sounds from the description.
     
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  6. Millim

    Millim The Big Straight Orderite

    Oct 13, 2010
    Eh, of they do, it would be a massive dick move and not one I can go with quietly.

    But I was one of the suckers that bought the Season Pass.

    Who knows, it may have been worth it?
     
  7. mrchaos

    mrchaos Super Orc

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    Nov 14, 2015
    They had to copy something from New Vegas, although I´d prefer they had copied speech checks.

    I bet this overhaul is going to need an overhaul mod to make it good.
     
  8. MercenarySnake

    MercenarySnake Kept you waiting huh?

    Aug 22, 2015
    Fear not!








    Mods will fix it! :smug:
     
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  9. SaucyLad

    SaucyLad Stuck in a Fridge

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    Nov 20, 2015
    Something tells me whatever they cook up will suck and I'll have to use mods to get a decent survival system.

    That picture of Todd Howard is obnoxious too.
     
  10. LonesomeDrifter

    LonesomeDrifter First time out of the vault

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    Sep 12, 2013
    Hey, it's a sandbox game. Guess they take that a bit too much literal and really give us sand. Then it's up to us to make something out of it.
     
  11. Spacemunkey

    Spacemunkey Vault Senior Citizen

    Dec 4, 2015
    More like a litter box game. I can't believe how many of those twitter responses are people thanking Bethesda for putting in a feature that was clearly supposed to be there on launch.
     
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  12. RangerBoo

    RangerBoo Vault Fossil

    Jun 15, 2015
    Doesn't surprise me. A lot of people demanded this and were pissed that Bethesda didn't include Hardcore mode on launch. Unsurprising this was probably the biggest complaint I saw about Fallout 4 from Beth fanboys. As if a lack of a hardcore mode is the only thing wrong with this game.
     
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  13. Irwin John Finster

    Irwin John Finster Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!

    Nov 13, 2015
    Does it fix the dialogue wheel or voice acting or actual game story and quests in any way? No? Then it's lipstick on a pig.

    It will be even funnier if they try to charge for it like Ranger Difficulty with Metro Last Light.
     
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  14. Risewild

    Risewild Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    Finally they are listening to players for once (or as many people have been saying FO4 was incomplete and they are still making it and that was something they didn't make by release day) and apparently this survival/hardcore mode will have diseases too, I guess it is so they wont admit it was copied from FNV "No, we did not copy our new survival mode from FNV, see here? We have diseases and FNV didn't, we're superior!" :clap:

    If this will be part of a DLC then it is still a dick move, paying extra for something that should have been on the basic game. I just hope we don't go back to the Horse Armor DLC style, instead of game expansion style DLCs we will start having content and features DLCs instead (kinda like Hearhfire DLC for Skyrim).

    Future DLC predictions:
    • Needs/Hardcore DLC
    • Classic Fallout weapons
    • Classic Fallout Armors
    • Classic Fallout enemies
    • Traits DLC
    • More Perks DLC
    • Ammo Type DLC
    • More food and drink DLC
    • More Power Armors DLC
    • More buildable Settlement stuff DLC
    • Another Main Character voice DLC
    • More Music DLC
    • More Followers DLC
    • Etc
    I am joking but now that I think about it console players are known for really love to buy tiny DLCs that just add more skins or a few items in shooter games, it wouldn't surprise me if Bethesda would start having DLCs like that, although I am sure they wouldn't stop making game expansion-like ones.
     
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  15. Practicat

    Practicat Where'd That 6th Toe Come From?

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    Aug 25, 2014
    Hardcore mode in New Vegas was inspired in part by the primary needs mods for Fallout 3, so it is incorrect to say that Bethesda undoubtedly copied Hardcore mode.
     
  16. Risewild

    Risewild Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    Then they will just change the FNV for a Mod for FO3:
    "No, we did not copy our new survival mode from a FO3 mod, see here? We have diseases and that mod didn't, we're superior!" :ugly:
     
  17. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    Hardcore mode DLC, 7 years of development folks.
     
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  18. DirtyOldShoe

    DirtyOldShoe Some kind of lucky

    Dec 15, 2015
    Unfortunately I think these will be DLC and a prediction I had as well. Free money for Zenimax and console players will eat it up because they don't know any better. And I predict these garbage DLCs will be released just before the creation engine is released.
     
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  19. NovaRain

    NovaRain Casual Modder Modder

    Mar 10, 2007
    I'm fine with that as long as they separate the "combat difficulty" (damage multipliers of you and enemies) and the real Hardcore mode (basic needs) into two different settings/options.
     
  20. Risewild

    Risewild Venerable Relic of the Wastes
    Modder Orderite

    Jun 14, 2014
    I don't know for sure, but that seems too much hassle for Bethesda to do, I bet they will just make Survival mode have the needs and diseases on top of what already does, but the tweet really doesn't give enough info about it.

    I am glad Bethesda is implementing it, that means they are at least willing to listen to people and try and improve the product, now we just need RPG mode next :ugly:.