Also, what's with all of those people that love Bethesda and F4 not beeing able to find the edit fuction ...
I've never really understood why people make such a big deal about double posting. (If that's what you're talking about here.)
Sure, most forums have a rule against double posting, but to me it seems like a few posts in a row by the same user doesn't really do, or detract from, anything. As long as they're all contributing to the conversations. Maybe if it's a page or two full by the same user, but otherwise it doesn't seem like it should be that big of a deal. Right?
Sometimes, it simply happens. No harm in that. But seriously, it is such a small thing, which is what makes it sometimes irritating. How can you miss that? You find your way into the forum, you figure out how to create an account. But you can't be bothered to edit your own posts? It can't be more difficult than that really. I guess part of the frustation is simply, that a couple of people recently did nothing else but beeing irritating with their posts, like that one dude who littered his posts with smilies, Dragonborn used also to double post and a couple of other people, strange enough, most of them Bethesda-apologetics. I guess it would not even think about it, if their posts had some real substance.
But it's like someone who's not using the trashcan. Small stuff. But if everyone did it? It would become a problem really fast.
Im sorry. and you cant take joy that your Fallout has been the inspiration for a game that is enjoyed by many? There has to be some redeemable quality? I mean i always mention New Vegas because it was salvaged from the basic 3. Im sure something is on the way that will blow all our minds. Im just getting famillar with vanilla.
I mean if Nox got turned into a FPS i would be like Heretic. That would be fucking rad. then maybe remake Old school version.
Why should I? Not everything is for everyone. I personaly don't like racing games. And I guess racing games are not the most liked gameplay out there, compared to FPS games. Does that mean we should turn Need for Speed or Forza 6 into first person shooters so that it can be
enjoyed by the many? I don't think so.
Fallout was always a niche title for a specific group of people. Without the intention to sound like an elitist here. But that's simply what it was. A role playing game, with top down view and with turn based combat. And not a first person shooter. However, New Vegas has shown though, that you don't have to sacrifice role playing aspects just because you made it into an FPS. That is unique to Bethesda. Not only dumbing-down the gameplay, but allso the narrative. Seriously, the recently released Wolfenstein games have a better story, writing and gameplay. Make them open world, and they would be better games in almost every part to Fallout 4 ...
Thing is, what you see as
enjoyed by many, is simply another word for Mc Donalds Gaming. Do you know what Mc Donalds Gaming is?
It's like taking a tenderloin steak:
And turning it into this:
Simply because it is, cheaper, easier to make, sells better, and fitts a broader taste. That's what happens when you take a deep role playing game and turn it into a shallow first person shooter.
Awesome improvements right there! You like that. OK. I can respect that. But don't sell me that garbage, like as it would be some kind of great evolution or a good thing, with the only argument, that more people can enjoy it now.
I am NOT(!) saying that all first person shooters are shit, shallow or what ever. And I can enjoy shallow FPS games just as how I can sometimes enjoy a MC Donalds meal. But I don't want EVERY franchise to be turned in to it, just so it can hit a specific, but popular, taste.
I mean if Nox got turned into a FPS i would be like Heretic. That would be fucking rad. then maybe remake Old school version.
Really, very unlikely! New Vegas was an awesome game. And if we had nothing else but New Vegas, I could accept that - because we would have now a high quality sequel to New Vegas, and not this abomination Flatline 4.
But, the fact remains, for those few of us, that actually enjoy the top down and turn based gameplay, this would still be a loss. There is no chance that what you call "old school version" ,which is wrong by the way, FPS combat is at least as old like turn based and top down gameplay, will ever see the light again. I mean for fucks sake, you mentioned Heretic! Do you know how old that shit is? Heretic was released in 1994. Nox was released in 2000! So you want something old school to be turned into something that is even MORE old school?
Regardless if we talk about Nox or Fallout now, we won't see the original gameplay coming back. Not with the current policy that exists in EA, Ubisoft, Bethesda etc. Not because one is more old school compard to the other - again it's wrong, the gameplay you havein Fallout 1/2 or Nox is not old school. FPS gameplay is simply extremely popular right now. That's all. You enjoy something here not because it is new, but rather because clever marketing campaigns tell you what to enjoy here.
Seriously, think about that.
They just killed Westwood. Bethesda knows they suck but they like Fallout. Its just like they make it casual for everyone. sighhh.
