Briton faces execution for smuggling heroin in China

[alec]

gun to the head isn't too bad, i reckon

it used to be the Death by a Thousand cuttings...

google it

First Image pulled up.

Idk, I guess that guy can kick some ass. Or maybe he's just that ugly in person.

Scary, he looks like an Asian version of you with bad teeths.

Dude, the Death of 1000 cuttings is where they tied you up to a pole or cross and starting cutting off everything that somewhat stuck out. So they started by cutting off your genitals, your tits, your arse, your kneecaps, your nose and so on, until you were basically just a skeleton with organs. The evilest thing about this was that they gave you opium before the execution, so you wouldn't feel as much pain and so you would actually start laughing when they chopped off another piece of you. There is photo material available of these executions on the internet. Horrible, horrible way to go.

 

[Loxley]

Dude, the Death of 1000 cuttings is where they tied you up to a pole or cross and starting cutting off everything that somewhat stuck out. So they started by cutting off your genitals, your tits, your arse, your kneecaps, your nose and so on, until you were basically just a skeleton with organs. The evilest thing about this was that they gave you opium before the execution, so you wouldn't feel as much pain and so you would actually start laughing when they chopped off another piece of you. There is photo material available of these executions on the internet. Horrible, horrible way to go.

Depends on the time period in wich it was done. My proffesor in chinese history decribed how it was done in the Tang dynasty which was then that they would chop of body parts. And then let it heal. So you took of a leg. And let it heal, then maybe an eye. And let it heal. Basically the convicted would wake upp every morning knowing that they would cut of a bodypart as soon as the wound healed, and then go on to the next, until he died. That is also why it was called the "lingering death." When done in this manner, people could linger for months.

 

[Pablosdog]

I'm still surprised that there isn't more outrage within the international community. I mean, there's your typical amnesty-like groups defending him, but I mean, has there been any response from the british government about this? Isn't that one of the main duties of the government? You know...protecting your people?

 

[Jack The Knife]

I don't think it's much they can do without screwing up their relations with China.
If you get caught doing something illegal in a country, you stand trial in that particular country.
And if that country has capital punishment for your particular crime. Tough luck.

We've got two Norwegians just given death penalty in Congo at the moment. (They probably won't be executed, but will rather die in prison.)

The trial was a fucking circus (claiming Norway had illegal interests in Congo and whatnot ), but there was not much the Norwegian government could do about it apart of answer the allegations directed at them.

 

[Crni Vuk]

well another good reason to do vacation at home I guess

 

[Pablosdog]

*Update*

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/10/14/world/asia/14execute.html


Turns out that the british government wants to let this man go free.

 

[SuAside]

why is everyone so against bloody executions? when it's 100% sure you got the right guy and you'd lock him up for life, then you're doing him and society a favor by ending it there & then.

now, there aren't many scenarios where this applies of course, but still. this "oh noez, executions are bad"-stuff is just ... pffft. pantsies!

Depends. Does 5.8 x 42 mm qualify as "large caliber"? Or do they stick to the 7.62? Meh, still I'd rather get shoot than anything else.

intermediate is the term, for both 5.8x42mm and 7.62x39mm.

It's flexible, now that we have rifles in small enough caliber that don't ricochet off the cement behind the head and kill 3 other people.

ricochet? you fire at a 45° angle downwards into the head (starting fragmentation there, most likely) and then you hit the ground. usually the ground is just loose soil (less clean-up necessary after spilling brains all over than if you'd use cement).

chances of a (dangerous) ricochet are actually pretty slim. they're probably also used to firing into the direction of a backstop anyway.

 

[Crni Vuk]

why is everyone so against bloody executions? when it's 100% sure you got the right guy and you'd lock him up for life, then you're doing him and society a favor by ending it there & then.

now, there aren't many scenarios where this applies of course, but still. this "oh noez, executions are bad"-stuff is just ... pffft. pantsies!

which is part of the reason not to kill them. From what I have read people are more frightened in the act of crimes about a lifetime arrest then death punishment. They might eventualy think its better to die then spend the rest of the life in prison.

 

[alec]

Also: does one really deserve to die for crossing a border with a bag full of dope?

I think not.

I say snort and smoke and fucking lighten up: we're on the brink of destruction for crying out loud.

 

[SuAside]

which is part of the reason not to kill them. From what I have read people are more frightened in the act of crimes about a lifetime arrest then death punishment. They might eventualy think its better to die then spend the rest of the life in prison.

yeah, because a lifetime in prison is doing such a great job to stop murder, rape, maffia, etc.

i've heard that argument before, and i just don't buy it.

for me, it's not about punishment once you reach that stage, but cost to society.

 

[Serge 13]

I think they use large caliber semi-automatic rifles actually.

Chinese made Type 56(chinese made ak-47)

More than enough actually.

Half a head blown off... your fault if you look at it.
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courtesy of friends of Tibet.

shit...that's fucking terrible! couldn't they use a pistol or some shit like that? That's fucking barbaric!

 

[Kahgan]

I'm not really pro-death penalty, but going into china with a bag full of dope..well, he had it coming, I don't see why the international community (or Britain) should care. If you decide to go over the niagara falls in a bath tub you don't expect to get eny help if it goes to hell...

 

[Wooz]

But the emails also chart how Shaikh met the Polish criminals, in particular a character called Carlos with whom he claims to have composed a song and who promised Shaikh he could turn it into a hit record. Carlos told him he had excellent contacts in the music business and they would help him achieve success. In September 2007 Carlos paid for a flight for Shaikh to Kyrgyzstan.

What?

 

[Crni Vuk]

which is part of the reason not to kill them. From what I have read people are more frightened in the act of crimes about a lifetime arrest then death punishment. They might eventualy think its better to die then spend the rest of the life in prison.

yeah, because a lifetime in prison is doing such a great job to stop murder, rape, maffia, etc.

i've heard that argument before, and i just don't buy it.

for me, it's not about punishment once you reach that stage, but cost to society.

I think we probably will not come to any consensus here then.

shit...that's fucking terrible! couldn't they use a pistol or some shit like that? That's fucking barbaric!

yeah as like it would make a really big difference ...

 

[victor]

 

[SuAside]

shit...that's fucking terrible! couldn't they use a pistol or some shit like that? That's fucking barbaric!

How THE FUCK is using a pistol less barbaric?

 

[victor]

I think he meant less messy.

 

[Crni Vuk]

other question what would be civlized ?

 

[Member of Khans]

xxx

 

[TheWesDude]

i think execution is far better than lifetime in prison.

especially if its not a "hotel" style like the US.

i also am not sure drug smuggling is worth a death/life sentance unless you are smuggling a ton of it every year.

if you are just a small time prick, then not worth one. if you are a major importer, then its worth it.