Do you think it's perfectly okay to dismiss Fallout 3...

Very few people on this forum will agree with you about Fallout 3 being "the best Fallout game" ever made and you'll die tired if you want to fight that opinion around here.

Anyway, I liked Fallout 3 a hell of a lot more than Fallout 1/2, which to me were only ok-to-good games. If you are a diehard Fallout 1/2 fan, you will probably hate it and should just play NV, which will probably still disappoint the purist connoisseur but harkens back to F2 a lot more than F3 does.
 
gongos said:
Cheap shot from my side, but just following your analogy.

Actually, I prefer the first, Tim Burton's one. But that still doesn't change the fact that the Dark Knight looks like a freaking Shawshank Redemption compared to B&R. :|
 
Avallach said:
gongos said:
Cheap shot from my side, but just following your analogy.

Actually, I prefer the first, Tim Burton's one. But that still doesn't change the fact that the Dark Knight looks like a freaking Shawshank Redemption compared to B&R. :|

If you like Batman, you should try (if you haven't already) Arkahm Asylum.
 
Oh God... Todd Howard's #1 Fan comes back and we get a fanboy to boot. Face it mang, most of us think F3 failed as a Fallout game. Failed as an RPG. And failed as a shooter. If you want an argument, I'm sure there are more than enough to satisfy you in this section of the forum.

It's times like this I wish Rosh was still here. :(
 
korindabar said:
Very few people on this forum will agree with you about Fallout being "the best Fallout game" ever made and you'll die tired if you want to fight that opinion around here.

Anyway, I liked Fallout 3 a hell of a lot more than Fallout 1/2, which to me were only ok-to-good games. If you are a diehard Fallout 1/2 fan, you will probably hate it and should just play NV, which will probably still disappoint the purist connoisseur but harkens back to F2 a lot more than F3 does.
How could anyone like Fallout 3 over the previous games? It goes against all logic.
 
Thomas de Aynesworth said:
How could anyone like Fallout 3 over the previous games? It goes against all logic.

I know, it's totally crazy that if you like something, someone else might not like it as much.

Faceless_Stranger said:
The first 2 were too hard and had bad grafix.

The first two games were not difficult. :roll: Come on now. Unless you happen to find turn-based hard, but it was laughably easy to exploit. Maybe the difference being instead of VATSing someone in the head you would aimed-shot them in the eyes/groin. Fallout 3 isn't hard either, but to say F1/F2 are hard? Silly.

Faceless_Stranger said:
No assplosions or immursion...

Yeah, people who like Fallout 3 are only in it for the explosions, I'll admit it. It's all I think about. I tried liking Fallout 1/2 more but I couldn't get into the rape, child killing, prostitutes and super mutant ball gags. If only my tastes were more refined. At least they both have gore animations for death.

Or maybe people just like one more than the other, I don't know.
 
Rape? I must have missed that... again, instead of saying why we're wrong in disliking FO3, why don't you prove us wrong? What made Failout 3 better than the game that defined the universe?
 
Faceless_Stranger said:
Rape? I must have missed that... again, instead of saying why we're wrong in disliking FO3, why don't you prove us wrong? What made Failout 3 better than the game that defined the universe?

How do I prove to someone that they're wrong in disliking something? I didn't say you were wrong in disliking Fallout 3 to begin with. No more wrong than I am for liking it more than the originals. I actually don't care what you like, just don't condescend to people if they prefer F3.

And you say it like that discussion could actually take place here. No one wants to be the lone poster in a thread filled with a dozen ardent Fallout 1/2 fans fist-bumping and patting each other on the back because they're "right" and surrounded by people who agree with them. I'm surprised that any Fallout 3 fans survive here at all. I do, because for the most part it's a great and informative forum. But I want to punch a baby when I read some of the ridiculous "lolololz fallout3 kidz assplosionz" comments.
 
If you aren't going to back-up your comments and reasonings, stick to lurking. Call it what you will, but the good folks here can give you dozens of solid reasons why FO is superior.
 
Can't fault someone for liking an inferior product, sometimes there's a sentimental value there, even if it is as pernicious as a brain tumor.

Hell, I still have my 1952 Moscow steel lighter around here. Incredible that it can use Bic flints.
 
I have been playing New Vegas for a few days now, and every step I take in Nevada just reinforces the disgust and abhorence that arises when I think about Fallout 3.

It is laughable to me that anyone would consider Fallout 3 a better game than New Vegas, LET ALONE Fallout 1 & 2. It is just mind blowing how far off the mark Bethesda made their take on the wasteland.

Seriously... any one with a difference of opinion here is welcome to advocate their preference of FO3 above the others. I would love to know what I'm missing here.

What I've noticed in my New Vegas experience so far when I compare it to Fallout 3:

-The writing, dialogue and story are far and above the pathetic attempt at a heroic epic that was FO3. Instead of being flat, linear and shallow, NV actually makes you care about the characters and the game world. It isn't hard to understand why when you consider that in FO3, you were forced into a one track story with very limited choice or outcomes.

Nothing you do in FO3 makes any difference. You can wipe out every innocent in D.C. and step into the chamber at the end of the game, and all of a sudden you're a selfless hero. FO3's story is exactly the kind of bullshit good vs. evil pansy ass morality play that you'd expect to see from Mel Bay.

In contrast, every single action you take in New Vegas can have a profound effect on the inhabitants their, and there are multiple, intertwined pathways that lead you to the end of the game. And you care more about what happens to the characters because they're not all just robotic extras in some 12 year old's dream of Fallout with the 'cool factor' set to max.

As far as concept and story goes, it baffles me that anyone could hold FO3 over NV. FO3 has NPCs that you can not kill, for christ's sake. In NV you can fuck up your game as much as you want by killing anyone and everyone you like. The world is subserviant to you, not to some retarded one-way story line.

-The sound and voice acting are pretty much the same way. Not only does the ambient and environmental sound make the atmosphere more immersive, the voice acting actually has talent. One of the things that got to me the most while playing through FO3 was the amount of characters you'd run into that had the exact same voice and inflection. There is not a single dialogue capable character that I've come across in NV that made this as painfully obvious.

-If we're going to talk 'cool factor', NV has all the little tricks and gimmicks of FO3 and then some. There are more weapons, some of which are just too awesome to pass up. The combat still has the same campy gore replete with dismemberment and random hilarity. THERE IS A GRENADE MACHINE GUN. And, of course, the nuclear cars still make you wonder how the world survived to drop bombs on each other in the first place seeing that a minor fender bender would have leveled a city block.

-The game mechanics are completely fucking incomparable. FO3 renders you an invincible master of all trades by the end of the game, and since there are no consequences for what you do you end up being some faceless superman with no character in a world that doesn't pay any attention.

NV makes you choose your attributes more wisely and ensures that you can play as many times as you want with unique character types and get a different game every time.

The crafting system is brilliant, the reputation system makes you think twice about your actions, and the combat relies more heavily on both your character's attributes and equipment and your skill as a player. Not to mention that hardcore mode is great.

I have been trying to think this whole time about what may be an advantage that FO3 has in its favor, but the only thing I come up with is that maybe the environment is a little cooler. Except for the underground hell and monotony of the goddamn metro system.

So yeah I've gone off on quite a meandering FO3 hate rant here, but I was pissed when I played it and I'm pissed now. It's just disgusting to me that Bethesda holds this franchise after I've seen how they handled the pathetic shell that is FO3, and now that I'm playing a game that I can actually recognise as Fallout.

I swear to god that if they don't take NV as a lesson in game building by the time they release Fallout 4, I'm going to discard a rubberneck trashcan of my own feces all over Todd Howard's door step.

So to wrap up this lengthy diatribe, and to respond to the original post, leave the crap in the outhouse and pick up New Vegas. It is ALMOST what Fallout 3 could and should have been.

Oh yeah, and child killing, prostitutes, mutant ballgags and fucked up dark situations are what MAKE a Fallout game. If they aren't to your taste then I'm sure one of the Lego games has something for you.
 
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