Dragon Age II: now more like Mass Effect 2

Ilosar said:
EDIT: finally, since Origins was in development for close to 5 years, I strongly doubt they took the 'oppressed elves'' thing from The Witcher, especially since the universe was pretty much unknown in the West before the games arrived.
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You're probably right elves and other demihumans being treated like crap by humans is pretty common in fantasy.
 
I'm playing the game and despite all it's flaws (and extremely poor prologue), it's a very enjoyable game. I just can't seem not to like it. I even liked the new combat, the way everything flies around after a shield bash is simply fun in a way Origin never was.
 
You know, the more I play it, the more it grows on me too. Despite all the flaws I listed, it still shows pretty amazing potential. The characters are slightly better than Origins, but what sets them apart is the banter; companions form relationships between themselves, and Hawke even sometimes comments on it based on the dominant personality you assigned him/her. I really like seeing Varric take every companion (especially Merill) under his wing and using his vast network of contact to help them, or watching Isabela (the game's worst character if you ask me) and Aveline (best character) bicker in a way that makes Alistair vs Morrigan seem tame. Seriously, the party banter in DA2 is pure gold.

Also, it's funny, but the two parts showcased in the demo are probably the game's two worst part (especially the godawful prologue). Several (not that many, however) quests actually have several possible endings, and I really dig the fact that companions sometimes help you resolve situations (Varric can bluff like the best of them, Fenris can use his knowledge of the Qunari to make them more comfortable towards you, mages can help when demons are in the picture, ect.). Also, I just finished a long, rewarding and very open-ended quest that was made available because of an action I made during the first act. They said actions would have more consequences and they do actually deliver. I mean, there's already a pretty nasty consequence to a choice you make at the end of Act 1.

And I cannot express how flexible and just better the skill trees are this time around. My carefully built sword and board warrior is capable of using talent synergies to inflict massive punishment, it's so much more rewarding than Origins's linear 2handers = damage shield = tank system. Specializations are also much better, they actually have unique playstyles and powerful abilities, while in Origins the Arcane Warrior was the only good one (read, it was blatantly overpowered).
 
@Ravager69 you should try Demon Stone, it was fun hack and slash similar to DA2, minus the "epic" story and "free roaming" map. But it had fun fights and you could customize your party somewhat.
What is interesting is the quality of maps say compared to Drakensang River of time. Gorgeous and the city feels like a city, yet its not a AAA+ title. And its using the same engine as Dark Eye and they manged to make the PnP not that complex. I think that was one reason brought up why DA2 was watered down. Personally I think they should have just called it a beat em up game and as DA subtitle Dragon Effect or something similar.
 
^ I'm not sure how anyone can like that crappy, ugly, buggy, horrible abortion of a "game". Just about any game is genius compared to Demon Stone.
 
over the last couple of weeks I've had a blast with Origins and its expansion, and after reading up on and watching gameplay videos of DA2 I feel more compelled to play Origins again with a new character. the game has its flaws, but they've done a great job in certain areas that makes me want to come back. DA2 looks like its riddled with flaws.
 
and it is fun to jump on the "Bioware sold its soul to EA bash DA2 bandwagon"

I am so glad that I decided to give up on RPGs a long time ago. There seems to be just no real reason anymore to care about it. Is it interesting ? buy it when it is very cheap. Otherwise. I dont see any reason to really give so much money for those overhyped crap. With a few exceptions.
 
I actually think it's pretty tiresome to complain on the interwebs, and only read complaints for that matter. ever since the first gameplay footage was revealed I've kept an eye on DA2 to see how things progressed. at first I was pretty hyped since I like Origins, but every new bit of info has felt like a disappointment at best. now that reviews and user feedback is pouring in it's pretty easy to make the decision that it isn't worth rushing to buy this game.
 
aenemic said:
I actually think it's pretty tiresome to complain on the interwebs...
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And denny the codex it's right to existance ? Hell NO! They are some great source of hilarious situations. AAA anyone ?

I mean now its proven to anyone that the A-Button on the controler stands for "Awesome". Presh it to let something Awesome happen.
 
Crni Vuk said:
I mean now its proven to anyone that the A-Button on the controler stands for "Awesome". Presh it to let something Awesome happen.
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Saints Row 3 has it's awesome button mapped to the left bumper. Literally.
 
I read that too.

At least it's an action game with no intent on delivering seriousness.

I wonder if it will make beating old ladies to death with a floppy dildo any more awesome.
 
generalissimofurioso said:
I wonder if it will make beating old ladies to death with a floppy dildo any more awesome.
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Hopefully as good as using SR2's pimp slap. Wack a bitch 5 miles into a building with that thing, shame you could only use it in certain missions and co-op duels.
 
What's the update on Flemeth now?
Could we have a little spoiler here?

My friend won't tell me anything besides that she says things like she is part of some "whole" and that Hawke can never become a dragon. And some amulet she gave to him by request.

And how does it feel having almost the same skin of side quest dungeon or part of some map?
I heard there are a lot of ....corridors :)
 
^ Most likely just a troll trying to get exactly this reaction... Not trying to defend anyone, but that kind of "evidence" is really pretty shaky.
 
and it would not reveal anyting new even if it would be true. Gaming sites and magazines swayed by big game developers/publishers ? How shocking.
 
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