EA Origin gets Kickstarter projects, Wasteland 2 is first

I'll just never trust origin because they stole 45.00 from me, and never acted concerned about it, or offered to help out. I've been dealing with Steam for years, and have never had an issue like that.
 
TorontRayne said:
Yeah, I mean it's not a big deal really, but when I see EA - I basically think of Satan. I don't know why.
It's the red suit, horns, pitchfork, pointed tail, and cloven hooves.
 
There is a reason for which some people (me included) see EA as incarnation of the Antichrist. Every time EA stuck it's tale into something in the long run that something turned sour. It's like apparently they give you a helping hand, but somewhere in the background the punch has already left the hangar, and the longer it takes to reach it's target the more momentum it gets only to kick you right in the groin when you least expect it. It's like the fine-print on the contract it's not only small but also written with white font on white paper. So yeah the metaphor with the rebel alliance accepting a deal offered by the Empire is perfect.
 
Hmm... How much will EA get out of it? I feel uneasy about EA getting its hands somewhere near Wasteland.
 
Alvarez said:
Hmm... How much will EA get out of it? I feel uneasy about EA getting its hands somewhere near Wasteland.

Zero directly(for 90 days). That's the whole point. Indirectly they get a whole bunch of kickstarter games on their platform thus increasing the value of the platform. And some PR for doing the move.
 
csirifiszkio said:
Wow. EAs reputation is so bad that they had to do this...

I think this short comment captures the essence of EA's proposal. They're actually doing something nice, as they have lost a large part of the potential PC market due to lack of goodwill.
That's also why I'm not seeing anything wrong with it, provided that there are no strings attached. Taking in mind the lack of goodwill, I think such strings would be something that EA is desperate to avoid, as they really do not need a negative backlash.
EA isn't evil. It's just a corporation trying to make as much money as possible. If they want to win back some of the older-school PC gamers, then goodwill is perhaps the best currency.


As a side note:
EA is part of the problem for PC gaming, due to lazy console ports, pushing out run-off-the-mill "AAA" games etc., but in this particular case, I think they're doing something good for PC gamers. Instead of criticizing a company as a whole, I think it makes more sense to criticize or praise individual actions.
I'm rather pragmatic, so to me, it's perfectly feasable to dislike consolitis and the dumbing down of games that EA represents, whilst still appreciating it when they're doing something good. Positive reinforcement can often work better than negative reinforcement.
 
Kilus said:
Alvarez said:
Hmm... How much will EA get out of it? I feel uneasy about EA getting its hands somewhere near Wasteland.

Zero directly(for 90 days). That's the whole point. Indirectly they get a whole bunch of kickstarter games on their platform thus increasing the value of the platform. And some PR for doing the move.

The key thing here is 90 days. After that they'll be making money on the types of games they refused to fund themselves.
 
Beelzebud said:
The key thing here is 90 days. After that they'll be making money on the types of games they refused to fund themselves.

Yes? So will Valve. That's what retail is. They're retailers. And publishers. But in this case, just retailers.
 
I'm happy for more exposure, and I'm happy if the publishers and indie crowd-sourced developers stay cordial. Plenty of room in the industry for everyone.
 
Brother None said:
Beelzebud said:
The key thing here is 90 days. After that they'll be making money on the types of games they refused to fund themselves.

Yes? So will Valve. That's what retail is. They're retailers. And publishers. But in this case, just retailers.

Exactly... also, why would a retailer want to FUND anything like this?
 
EA is the biggest publisher in the world. They refuse to fund games like this, but want to profit off of them anyway. Comparing them to Valve is laughable because Valve is not a publisher.

You can be fine with that, if you choose to, but not me.
 
Rev. Layle said:
Brother None said:
Beelzebud said:
The key thing here is 90 days. After that they'll be making money on the types of games they refused to fund themselves.

Yes? So will Valve. That's what retail is. They're retailers. And publishers. But in this case, just retailers.

Exactly... also, why would a retailer want to FUND anything like this?

Publicity
 
^ They just scored the "Worst Company" title over National Bank, which doesn't handle crisis very well. Talk about bad.

I don't think they are preparing some kind of smothered mate for Fargo, because they can't allow themselves to do it right now. They are desperate for PR and positive publicity. The only strings attached should be simply winning some good PR after which they will more likely be able to "get away" with their usual politics.
 
From what I can understand now, Steam would normally take a 30-40% cut. So if EA is not taking any cut whatsoever for the first 90 days, that's just a ridiculously good deal.

If the above is the actual case, and there are no strings attached, then inXile didn't really have a choice. There's nothing to lose and a whole lot to win for developers here.
 
Just as long as we don't have to deal with Origin's crack support team whenever we have any problems.

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Looks like they need to improve their chat bots. :D

OT: As long as it's not Origin only like that one other game I'd have otherwise wanted to play, I don't really give a shit.

Oh, and they've began collecting shipping information through the kickstarter page btw. I haven't seen anything about it so I don't know if its official or whatever, but you should all go fill it out if you haven't!
 
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