Fallout 2 Restoration Project 1.2 (Unofficial FO2 Expansion)

[mavi85bmn]

For fucks sake, it has been mostly a gushing praise so far. There are no real oponents to releasing this picture.

You are right, there are no "real opponents". All you do is whine, and half of the time you don't even make sense.
Seriously, why are you (and others like you) even here?

Anyway releasing this should be up to the artist and killap.

No, it's up to Killap and those who are converting this picture to the game's format. The artist already did his part a long time ago.

The response of the childkillers to these posts has been owerwhelming so far is what i'd say

Stop trolling, please.

 

[earthdude]

I am playing through RP1.2 for the umpteenth time. Two suggestions in NCR:

1. When looking at the statue of the Vaultdweller, instead of having the text of the plaque appear in the little tiny textbox, have it appear as a pop-up message next to the statue.

2. Be able to ask Dorothy about the GECK even if she knows nothing about it. Sherrif Dumont recommends asking her about it if you ask him about a GECK.

 

[sydney_roo]

Yeah, why don't we add gnomes, elves and dragons, too!

 

[Harold]

How can you tell what the developers would or wouldn't have ditched if they had the time? The simple fact is nobody knows, not even the developers because they didn't have enough time. All that developers made to be included in the final game is already there, even the few things that were actually not meant to be included, like the Den's residential area.

This sounds more like something a publisher wouldn't want to put in the game because it might affect sales. Why do you think child killing and groin shots were left out of Fallout 3?

I say keep the picture. It's just plain brilliant. Maybe I have bad taste but I think it's pretty funny.

And... let's remember how you get that picture? You kill a child in Fallout2... So, for those who think that the picture is too much, will probably think killing children in the game is too much too, so they won't see the picture the game. And if you like killing children in the game, but don't like the picture, than you a re a hypocrite. Will this settle it?

Indeed. This whole thing is a bit like when the army can't write "fuck" on their bombs but they can drop them on innocent civilians in some middle eastern shithole.

 

[mavi85bmn]

I didn't care for Fallout 3, but there were a bunch of great games being made in the late 90's that were severely limited by publishers, and rushed to the point that I almost felt like I was playing the early alpha version of the game after the release.

It's a good thing that some of these left-out parts are being found today and that there's someone who has the time and patience to put them back in.
That picture is the most hilarious thing I've seen so far.

 

[Tolknaz]

Yeah, why don't we add gnomes, elves and dragons, too!

I was referring to the trolling encountered earlier in this thread actually. However with Fallout 2 nothing would surprise me any more. This game is so full of various popculture references and gags that every minute now killap or mib could burst the bubble.

 

[Tolknaz]

No, it's up to Killap and those who are converting this picture to the game's format. The artist already did his part a long time ago.

1. Posting a piece of art on deviantart does not equal to giving a permission to include said art in mods (in my world at least, feel free to disagree as always).
2. Modders themselves are always quite a whiny bunch, requesting explicit permissions for including their work in anything, why do you think original developers or freelancers should be treated any worse?

 

[.Pixote.]

Modders themselves are always quite a whiny bunch, requesting explicit permissions for including their work in anything

I don’t think it is fair to degrade modders in general. None of us do the work for ourselves, basically it’s because we love this thing called “Fallout”. Sure some of us might be wan-bee game designers, but these individuals spend hundreds, if not thousands of hours building or scripting their work.

I personally have made my small contribution to the game, and that’s enough satisfaction for me. I don’t see any purpose in trying to hold onto the artwork I’ve made. If others can use it and make new mods, good luck to them…

 

[Continuum]

Modders themselves are always quite a whiny bunch, requesting explicit permissions for including their work in anything

Sure, there's a lot of "OLOLOL! You can't use anything I made without permission, because I like when people are begging me for something OLOLOL!" type of modders. But there are also guys (like me for example) who don't give a flying fuck about it, I don't even give a shit about credits. You can even modify everything I've done as long as you know what you're doing *cough* Pixote *cough* . Plain and simple formula.

 

[.Pixote.]

You can even modify everything I've done as long as you know what you're doing *cough* Pixote *cough* .

Shit Conti, I think I fucked up *cough, cough*, the submarine is now - “yellow”; I thought I could be ultra creative with that design and got a little too excited.

 

[Tolknaz]

Modders themselves are always quite a whiny bunch, requesting explicit permissions for including their work in anything

I don’t think it is fair to degrade modders in general. None of us do the work for ourselves, basically it’s because we love this thing called “Fallout”. Sure some of us might be wan-bee game designers, but these individuals spend hundreds, if not thousands of hours building or scripting their work.

I personally have made my small contribution to the game, and that’s enough satisfaction for me. I don’t see any purpose in trying to hold onto the artwork I’ve made. If others can use it and make new mods, good luck to them…

I am sorry if my words came across as degrading. Let me assure you, that i have nothing but utmost respect for any of you guys. I was slightly drunk and tired and wanted to get my point across to a bullheaded opponent. I did not want to say that modders are whiny, but rather that many if not most request permission for including their work in other projects and can be quite vocal about it if their request is not honoured (quite understandable too i might add).

Edit:

mavi85bmn i see we have nothing more to talk about. I've said my piece long ago and from the look of things i think i shouldn't have bothered. Time for me to stop derailing this thread and get the hell out of dodge.

 

[mavi85bmn]

1. Posting a piece of art on deviantart does not equal to giving a permission to include said art in mods

It does not equal the opposite either. What's your point?

I am sorry if my words came across as degrading. Let me assure you, that i have nothing but utmost respect for any of you guys. I was slightly drunk and tired and wanted to get my point across to a bullheaded opponent.

The only "bullheaded opponents" (as opposed to "real oponents") are dumbasses like you who preach "morality", scream "offensive", try to rush the modder into stopping his work halfway through, or just make stupid stuff up along the way like you do. You couldn't come up with a point that's not moot from the beginning if your life depended on it, let alone get it across.

I did not want to say that modders are whiny, but rather that many if not most request permission for including their work in other projects and can be quite vocal about it if their request is not honoured (quite understandable too i might add).

Finally, you've said something that could make sense if you phrased it correctly. The artist made the picture to be included in the game, and he does indeed need not be asked for permission to include that picture in the same game's mod. It would be disrespectful to the artist NOT including the said picture in it.
And like many others have already told you, if you don't like what the modder does or you don't find the mod satisfying to your taste, DON'T PLAY IT!
But most importantly, stop your whiny trolling already. It's neither cute, smart, funny, or helpful in any way. It's just plain annoying. Go outside and talk to some real people for a change, you might find that much more satisfying.

 

[Psihotik]

Oh, shut up, shut up, shut up shut up!!!! Enough with the picture discussion. You are clogging this thread for nothing. Exchange Skype or MSN addresses and talk it out between yourselves.

 

[mavi85bmn]

Hey Psihotik, you've made a good point in your previous post. I was referring to that as well when I mentioned "many others."

Anyway, you're right. People shouldn't be clogging this thread for nothing, like, for example, telling everyone to shut up. Good thing you have your MSN address in your profile.

 

[Psihotik]

Hey Psihotik, you've made a good point in your previous post. I was referring to that as well when I mentioned "many others."

Anyway, you're right. People shouldn't be clogging this thread for nothing, like, for example, telling everyone to shut up. Good thing you have your MSN address in your profile.

Yes. I was a bit rude, sorry, but you were all out of line. Moderators or admins (whatever) can delete this post and I encourage them to do it. You have to realize that they are people waiting, and losing they minds in the process, for the upcoming RP 1.3, and rush here few times a day hoping to see some news, not hoping to see some people argue about an irrelevant thing. As I said, don't kill kids, you won't see the picture. Simple as that. Now please end it here, and continue about bugs, ideas, glitches and progress.

 

[mavi85bmn]

Yes. I was a bit rude, sorry, but you were all out of line.

Including you when you've made that other post about the picture? After all, we shouldn't be hypocritical here and accidently leave anyone out.

You have to realize that they are people waiting, and losing they minds in the process, for the upcoming RP 1.3, and rush here few times a day hoping to see some news, not hoping to see some people argue about an irrelevant thing. As I said, don't kill kids, you won't see the picture. Simple as that.

As far as I know, news are posted on the front page, not here on the modding forum. This place is meant for discussions about mods.
Granted, the discussions should be helpful, not the other way around. The dimwits complaining about such stuff as that ovary-kicking picture are really pathetic, and I actually enjoy belittling ignorant people who think they can disrupt a good thing.

Now please end it here, and continue about bugs, ideas, glitches and progress.

Take the lead.

 

[Brother None]

No thanks, I'll take the lead and remove any posts continuing on this topic.

Take it to PMs or not, I don't care, just shut up.

 

[mavi85bmn]

Thanks, Fat Man, Brother, or whoever you are. It was about time someone else started to care about this thread.

What do you look most forward to in RP 1.3, and do you think there's anything else left to be added or improved?

 

[Deadman87]

What do you look most forward to in RP 1.3,

To play it!!!

 

[Tagaziel]

The submarine.