Fallout 2 Restoration Project 2.2 - OPEN BETA (ie NOT FINAL)

Discussion in 'Fallout General Modding' started by killap, Jan 6, 2013.

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  1. RockingRocket

    RockingRocket First time out of the vault

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    Jun 14, 2013
    my problem isn't change. new reno second street still have crashing error, and i have no idea about that.

    i already tried replaying but same situations...

    so, restart and clear arroyo temple and going straight to new reno.
    going inside, and going second street; meet same error. huh :puppy-dog:

    no quest, no follower, not much item(only spear and knife), no special condition.... same error.

    how can solve that?

    if need savedata: here files(7z comp)
    it's all clean.
     
  2. Darek

    Darek is currently unavailable

    Jan 7, 2008
    @ RockingRocket,

    There is nothing wrong with your save, as it works perfectly fine for me. So it has to a problem with your game. Probably something missing. I would suggest you try to reinstall everything and see if that helps.
    If it doesn't you should tell us what version of the game you have, what OS you are using, install method etc.
     
  3. LucianDragos

    LucianDragos First time out of the vault

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    Jun 23, 2013
    Win 95

    Well after 10 years in storage I stumbled on to my old High School laptop a Toshiba Satellite Pro 465CDX spec's

    spec's
    Windows 95c OSR 2.5
    166Mhz Pentium w/MMX
    160Mb ram
    1Mb Direct Draw compatible Video card
    32Gig hard drive (late upgrade not long before it's retirement)
    10X cd-rom
    DirectX 8.0a (last out for win95)

    And it still had Fallout 2 installed so I started playing it again while at work (a call center with long stretches of downtime) the turn based game play works well for me there...
    Now I would like to get the Restoration Project installed but ran in to a hitch the installer demands DX9c witch I can not install on this old girl. All I really want is all the cut/added content because in truth playing on "real hardware" there is little need for the graphics overhauls other them making it run a 800x600 (already tried the High Resolution Patch Ver 2.0c and it works well).
    I have the disc so making a clean max install will not be a problem but I could use some help with a manual install

    some extra info
    Yes I'm playing it on the old laptop because my good one is having issues and my netbook's screen to too small it bothers me...

    And I have tried running Win 98se on this laptop, While it meets the system requirements it just does not play nice with it...
     
  4. NovaRain

    NovaRain Casual Modder Modder

    Mar 10, 2007
    @LucianDragos
    Wow, Win95. I only tried installing RP on 98se in VM...
    You might want to try installing FO2+RP on your newer netbook then copy the whole folder to the old laptop. As long as you don't use any DX9 related functions in sfall or hi-res patch, the game should work fine. But I can't guarantee the performance though.
     
  5. RockingRocket

    RockingRocket First time out of the vault

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    Jun 14, 2013
    sir Darek; thanks mention.

    yeah i think too about SAVEDATA.
    -and, i'll try reinstall and check again soon.

    win7 64bit sp1, steam version, and only added RP(full install by preset option).
    so, FO2 is 1.02.28 / RP is 2.2-pb1 / SFALL is 2.20a(last letter not sure. can't reading.) / F2_res is 4.0.2(not sure. in changelog)
     
  6. RockingRocket

    RockingRocket First time out of the vault

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    Jun 14, 2013
    sad feeling. :|

    uninstall and reinstall and testing; original FO2(download from steam) is correctly work. no crashing in new reno.
    unfortunately, same situation after RP installed.

    any solution?
    (some patch req before RP or need none-steam version gamefiles or...)
     
  7. killap

    killap Bear Dude Moderator Modder

    May 16, 2005
    So I know that Steam verifies its game files. This will probably pose a problem when installing mods. I'd suggest turning that off for F2.

    So do a fresh install of it, turn off the verify stuff, install a fresh copy of the RP and then copy over your save game.


    @LucianDragos
    Ah, I tried to support all versions of Windows with the RP but directx requirements must have slipped my mind. I'd suggest to go the route the NovaRain suggested. And performance shouldn't be too bad. The game was designed for Win 95/98 and the RP pushes the bounds only a bit more.

    I think I'll tweak the installer (yeah that's right I care about supporting old systems) to ignore the directx 9 check when Win 95 is the OS being used. The version of sfall for Win 9x is extremely old anyway, so it's not like features would be broken without the latest directx.


    @NovaRain
    Did installing under Win 98 work for you? No issues with the installer?
     
  8. NovaRain

    NovaRain Casual Modder Modder

    Mar 10, 2007
    @killap
    After digging out my old memo, I remember I was testing RP 1.2 at the time. Sorry for the misleading info. :oops:
     
  9. killap

    killap Bear Dude Moderator Modder

    May 16, 2005
    Do you still have access to a Win 98 machine? Would be interesting to know how the latest installer handles it.
     
  10. NovaRain

    NovaRain Casual Modder Modder

    Mar 10, 2007
    Unfortunately I don't have any testing environment now. My old Win98 machine got fried about two years ago. After that I only tested in Win98/Win2k VM on my working PC a few times (and mostly focus on Win2k), but all data was lost with a HDD crash last year. D:
     
  11. BrecMadak

    BrecMadak First time out of the vault

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    Jul 5, 2010
    Asking just for curiosity as I have Win 8 on my new notebook; is RP could be played without any problem ? Thanks.
     
  12. RockingRocket

    RockingRocket First time out of the vault

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    Jun 14, 2013

    wha...?! steam automatically integrity check?
    use steam only download program, not run on steam(FO2 run itself .exe). dayum... :x

    very thanks ur mention sir killap.
    i'll try reinstall on turnoff steam opt.
     
  13. RockingRocket

    RockingRocket First time out of the vault

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    Jun 14, 2013
    agrh... no advance. :cry:



    can prevent crash on FO2 Package ver?
     
  14. Darek

    Darek is currently unavailable

    Jan 7, 2008
    There's always the manual install option, no?
    But I seem to remember sfall started demanding dx9 at some point.
    Not sure it will even start without it, though it may only be if you use any of the graphics options.

    So maybe hold off with changing anything until someone with a last century pc has tested it.
     
  15. NovaRain

    NovaRain Casual Modder Modder

    Mar 10, 2007
    Only the 4.0.2 hi-res patch requires d3dx9_31.dll.
    I tried to remove all DX9 DLLs (d3dx9_**.dll) from system folders. The game still works as long as I disable the hi-res patch and don't use any DX9 graphics function in sfall. But I'm not sure if the maps will work properly without hi-res patch.
     
  16. Darek

    Darek is currently unavailable

    Jan 7, 2008
    Did you removed the dx9 files in the fallout folder as well?
    I assume you did but just asking to be sure. :)
    Then again, maybe they don't matter anymore if the whole thing gets disabled when you remove files from the system folder.
    Anyway, I think only the EPA maps will have issues without the hi-res patch. They won't be scrolling properly and you can't leave the place unless you come there with the car.
     
  17. NovaRain

    NovaRain Casual Modder Modder

    Mar 10, 2007
    Yes, I always remove the dx9 dlls in FO2 folder after installing RP, since they are redundant for my system.
    I remember Pixote said something about the issues in EPA ground map. Maybe he's working on some fixes.
     
  18. killap

    killap Bear Dude Moderator Modder

    May 16, 2005
    Hmm, perhaps I'll set it up where if someone has Win 95 then it will install hi-res 3.0.x instead. Extra work, but gotta support everyone. 8-) Of course I won't be able to test it but hopefully someone here can.

    Sadly not. He tried and the end result was either leave it be or remake the entire map. We chose the former. But yes, that's the only map that should have issues when not using the high-res patch, even if you choose 640x480.
     
  19. LucianDragos

    LucianDragos First time out of the vault

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    Jun 23, 2013
    Well I tired to copy over the folder but I just get and error on startup

    "wmAreaInit::Error loading Cities!"

    I looked over the ini's and as far as I could see there are no Dx9 options used... Though I don't think this error is caused be that but I could be wrong
     
  20. NovaRain

    NovaRain Casual Modder Modder

    Mar 10, 2007
    @LucianDragos
    I guess the system of your netbook is XP or above, so the included sfall won't work in Win9x. You have to use win9x version of sfall & an edited exe.

    EDIT: OK, here's the extracted/untouched files from the installer for win9x version: http://www.mediafire.com/?3zxoj5vmjo61msj
    You might need to tweak some options in ddraw.ini though.
     
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