DarkPhilly
First time out of the vault
st0lve said:
Woah....ummm If we the community were their #1 Priority wouldn't they be here, asking questions, putting up ideas, giving us some info?
st0lve said:
Have you seen their previous works?
Fallout 3 headed to XBox? Not unlikely
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First time out of the vault
Woah....ummm If we the community were their #1 Priority wouldn't they be here, asking questions, putting up ideas, giving us some info?
Have you seen their previous works?
Bradylama
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
There is an alternative to more expensive cross-platform games, that being less expensive niche games. Spiderweb's worked out a profitable environment for themselves, and Stardock made Galciv 2 with a crew that I don't think ever exceeded 20. Though, Galciv 2 provided a game for an undersupported 4X market, and garnered mainstream coverage for it.
The same claim can be made for isometric, turn-based cRPGs. Obsidian is "crazy" enough to release an "isometric" game with Neverwinter Nights 2, and while the player may be given a choice in how to angle the camera, it's still using a non-3rd person or first-person perspective, and it's hardly because of a lack of resources.
If it wasn't realtime w/ pause the game would even be tactical, and actually be an honest translation of D&D rules.
The same claim can be made for isometric, turn-based cRPGs. Obsidian is "crazy" enough to release an "isometric" game with Neverwinter Nights 2, and while the player may be given a choice in how to angle the camera, it's still using a non-3rd person or first-person perspective, and it's hardly because of a lack of resources.
If it wasn't realtime w/ pause the game would even be tactical, and actually be an honest translation of D&D rules.
st0lve
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Cause that's not what game developers do in the first place. And how the hell do you know that NO ONE from Beth have ever been on the forums reading our suggestions? My guess is taht they ALL have played Fallout\2 as a part of the pre-prod, to get the "spirit". The reason they probably don't say much, is that they don't want to miss inform people about release dates, features etc. since they probably haven't got a finished list yet. I don't know what you know about marketing or about game development, but when you make a sequel, you aim to please the "old" players which liked the first games. But you also try to reach out for new people, which is why it might go out on X-Box and other consoles, but the old ones are still 1st priority.DarkPhilly said:
How they solve this at Beth I tbh have no idea, but I'd guess multiple camera angles (optionals etc.) and such.
So you think just because ES is in FP, you are so sure that FO3 will be in FP? It's a new (for Beth) franchise, and they have certain "guidelines" to follow. I have no worries yet.DarkPhilly said:
SquishyDeadBody
It Wandered In From the Wastes
I was pondering an idea.
We all want to see a good F3.
If its going to go to a next gen system, we might as well make sure
that the Oblivian fan base and the majority of the gamer population knows about the Fallout Franchise and its potential.
I was watching X Play, and I thought to myself, what if a Gaming Media outlet (I.e) G4 were to do a piece on Fallout,Fallout 2, and the disappointment the Fan base is waiting for?
Maybe shine some lime light on the True Fallout, Give Beth a reason to make F3 in a more Fallout conventional sense by turning the gamers onto Fallout, so by the time F3 comes out, it will be a huge failure making it just another F
OS one more time over or a great success depending upon if they hear the cry of the fan base.
What better weapon does the Fallout fanboy have besides the Media?
Numbers?
Even though this could potentially turn out against us, I believe it is worth a try.
As I see it, If F3 is headed for pending doom, why not go into this head on and try and make a mark on Beth, NMA is already Black listed.
So NMA reps, let me hear your input.
Would you give it a try?
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Remember this is only an Idea, It has potential, but potentially so many errors and flaws.
We all want to see a good F3.
If its going to go to a next gen system, we might as well make sure
that the Oblivian fan base and the majority of the gamer population knows about the Fallout Franchise and its potential.
I was watching X Play, and I thought to myself, what if a Gaming Media outlet (I.e) G4 were to do a piece on Fallout,Fallout 2, and the disappointment the Fan base is waiting for?
Maybe shine some lime light on the True Fallout, Give Beth a reason to make F3 in a more Fallout conventional sense by turning the gamers onto Fallout, so by the time F3 comes out, it will be a huge failure making it just another F
OS one more time over or a great success depending upon if they hear the cry of the fan base.What better weapon does the Fallout fanboy have besides the Media?
Numbers?
Even though this could potentially turn out against us, I believe it is worth a try.
As I see it, If F3 is headed for pending doom, why not go into this head on and try and make a mark on Beth, NMA is already Black listed.
So NMA reps, let me hear your input.
Would you give it a try?
: Remember this is only an Idea, It has potential, but potentially so many errors and flaws.
st0lve
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Fallout3 will for sure be a next gen game, I doubt that Beth will use a really old engine to make FO3, they'll probably upgrade the same as they used for ES. Now, just because it's the same engine doesn't mean it's FP.
Do you think that Beth will make Fallout 3 for the Oblivion fanbase? Don't tell me that this is what you think just because they wanted to hire some talent from their modding community.
Writing a couple of "The TRUE spirit of Fallout" articles, adding them to Digg.com etc. and different places, would maybe reach out to the masses, it's worth a shot. The hardest thing would be to get Beth to read them before it's too late (as in finished pre-prod).
Do you think that Beth will make Fallout 3 for the Oblivion fanbase? Don't tell me that this is what you think just because they wanted to hire some talent from their modding community.
Writing a couple of "The TRUE spirit of Fallout" articles, adding them to Digg.com etc. and different places, would maybe reach out to the masses, it's worth a shot. The hardest thing would be to get Beth to read them before it's too late (as in finished pre-prod).
SquishyDeadBody
It Wandered In From the Wastes
st0lve said:
That is exactly what I am talking about!!
Digg.com Awesome Idea,
As for Fallout just for Oblivian fans no thats not what I think, I just don't want it to be the "only" aim.
F3 has potential to bring a wide variety of people to Fallout.
I just do not want another misrepresentation of what Fallout is and should be.
Briosafreak
Lived Through the Heat Death
Have you noticed this topic got a link from GameSpot?
And that whenever is talk of Bethesda and TES the praise is almost universal (almost...) and when people start to talk about FO3 the thing goes to a 50/50 ? I am probably wrong, but after two days of gaming sites and blogs viewing I'm starting to believe this endeavour is a greater risk to Beth than what they think so. They can't be attached to another release that hurts the franchise like in the case of Star Treck. Keep it real, Beth.
And that whenever is talk of Bethesda and TES the praise is almost universal (almost...) and when people start to talk about FO3 the thing goes to a 50/50 ? I am probably wrong, but after two days of gaming sites and blogs viewing I'm starting to believe this endeavour is a greater risk to Beth than what they think so. They can't be attached to another release that hurts the franchise like in the case of Star Treck. Keep it real, Beth.
SquishyDeadBody
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Briosafreak said:
That is what I want for them to come to realization of.
Maybe then they will drop it, I could see this as possibly a very large loss, but then again depending upon if it fits a new fan base it could do alright, Not in the eyes of True Fallout fans though.
VDweller
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
My sentiments exactly.Briosafreak said:
Bradylama
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
Something tells me that mainstream coverage of the issue isn't going to help. Just one guy in the article comments pointed out that we hate the idea.
Briosafreak
Lived Through the Heat Death
Gamespot said:
Bullshite. No one gives an exclusive interview to an X-Box magazine if they're not going to publish it on X-Box (360).
Especially not if they're simultaneously ignoring fansites that would seriously dislike such a move.
Especially not if they're simultaneously ignoring fansites that would seriously dislike such a move.
VDweller
Look, Ma! Two Heads!
Of course, it's bullshit.
I was told by one of the developers to check the trademarks in September. There were two: Knights of the Nine and Shivering Isles. I made a news post (link), the word got out, Pete said "No, we don't have any expansions in the works". Shivering Isles was officially announced on Jan 18.
There is marketing, and then there are dumb lies. What's sad is that many people believe these lies because they are "official".
I was told by one of the developers to check the trademarks in September. There were two: Knights of the Nine and Shivering Isles. I made a news post (link), the word got out, Pete said "No, we don't have any expansions in the works". Shivering Isles was officially announced on Jan 18.
There is marketing, and then there are dumb lies. What's sad is that many people believe these lies because they are "official".
Bradylama
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
What would even be the point in lying about an expansion pack?
Bradylama said:
I think lying is instinctive for Pete.
Bradylama
So Old I'm Losing Radiation Signs
One could only hope, all things considered.
RPG of the year!!
First time out of the vault
st0lve said:
Roshambo said:
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st0lve said:
Pete Hines said:
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st0lve said:
Yes. Retards rarely do.
st0lve said:
Bethesda didn't even make Morrowing for their own TES fanbase, and they didn't make Oblivion for their newly acquired Morrowing fanbase. So explain to me, chuckles, why you think they're going to make Fallout 3 for the Fallout fanbase*. "Because the tumor was pressing down on my brain" is the only satisfactory answer I can think of.
*Which they aren't. Check out Roshambo's handydandy summary of Oblivion: Brotherhood of Steel's feature list that I quoted at the top of this post.
Briosafreak
Lived Through the Heat Death
Check what the XBox gamers are saying
Ok here's another risk, by making the game too X-Box dependant they are jumping to a group of target costumers where the brand recognition is really low, while Oblivion already came out when Morrowind had an established name in the scene. Keep it real Beth.
Ok here's another risk, by making the game too X-Box dependant they are jumping to a group of target costumers where the brand recognition is really low, while Oblivion already came out when Morrowind had an established name in the scene. Keep it real Beth.
SquishyDeadBody
It Wandered In From the Wastes
Briosafreak said:
If thats is the Fanbase being aimed at....We are all Fucking DOOMED!
Half of the people were like oh yea !"Flatout" oh yea!
Dumb ass kids, It clearly said "Fallout"!
"Flatout" wasn't even wet dream when Fallout was released.
Noobie ass Bitches!
Eh...what the hell:
Heh. Morons.
Apparently half of them think it's 'Flatout', some kind of racing game. Most people there haven't even heard of Fallout, and most are saying 'Hey, it's Bethesda, so it'll be cool!'
Heh. Morons.