What were the initial prices of the NV DLCs? Weren't they also like ten quid each? Definitely felt more like you got your money's worth...
Fallout 4 Automatron is out
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Spacemunkey
Vault Senior Citizen
Yeah FNV DLC was 10 if I remember correctly. You can't compare the 2 though, New Vegas had DLC with new world spaces, some of the best characters in the Fallout universe, and an overarching story that connected them all, Automatron lets you build robots, shoot shit, and adds more awesomness that are radiant quests. If you think any of those things from New Vegas make it better you should take off the nostalgia glasses.
Yep, the Fallout New Vegas DLCs were around 10 or 12 Euro each (I think including the Gunrunners and that Pre Order Collection package).
And they definitely provided a lot more gameplay including replayability once you had finished them.
My ratings for the all the four DLCs combined would be around 8.5 or a 9.4 (they still had little issues here and there regarding quest types and of course the engine limitations.)
Had there been a little more content in Honest Hearts and Lonesome Road (Lonesome Road really required a little more story explanation and NPCs), and not so many Fed-Ex quests in HH and OBW I would have rated them even higher.
Ideal situation for me would have been if Lonesome Road took place after New Vegas's campaign and that the Endings of the main game and the DLC were combined but that is a whole different subject.
And they definitely provided a lot more gameplay including replayability once you had finished them.
My ratings for the all the four DLCs combined would be around 8.5 or a 9.4 (they still had little issues here and there regarding quest types and of course the engine limitations.)
Had there been a little more content in Honest Hearts and Lonesome Road (Lonesome Road really required a little more story explanation and NPCs), and not so many Fed-Ex quests in HH and OBW I would have rated them even higher.
Ideal situation for me would have been if Lonesome Road took place after New Vegas's campaign and that the Endings of the main game and the DLC were combined but that is a whole different subject.
Ragemage
Wept for Zion
Wow, so if even the critical reviews didn't push it into the green, is this a sign that people are finally waking up? Have the masses finally opened their eyes and realized Fallout 4 is a pile of steaming shit?
I think a Ulysses quote is relevant here: "And when they woke up, it was like all of history waking up at once. Almost didn't make it out. Almost. Left with answers I never intended."
Spacemunkey
Vault Senior Citizen
Unfortunately from what I've been reading I doubt it. The backlash seems to be from BGS having poor planning, they shove xp at the player constantly without a cap, the enemies level for shit in the game, and most players are playing this dlc with no challenge at all. I lol'd at the recommended level of 15, I went up 20 levels building a house. It seems to be a mess over at BGS if this is the crap they're cranking out.
Mr Fish
Slippy sloppy, The
Lonesome Road
Xbox critic 63
Xbox user 7.5
PC critic 57
PC user 6.8
PS3 critic 62
PS3 user 6.8
Honest Hearts
Xbox critic 64
Xbox user 7.0
PC critic 66
PC user 6.7
PS3 critic 66
PS3 user 6.4
Dead Money
Xbox critic 70
Xbox user 6.3
PC critic 70
PC user 6.2
PS3 critic 68
PS3 user 6.5
Gun Runners Arsenal
Xbox critic 60
Xbox user 6.7
PC critic N/A
PC user 6.1
PS3 critic N/A
PS3 user 5.3
Old World Blues
Xbox critic 83
Xbox user 8.2
PC critic 82
PC user 7.2
PS3 critic 81
PS3 user 7.5
I hate Old World Blues. Repetitive. Bullet-sponges. Fetch quest galore. Forced humour. Irritating design. And it ends up being the highest rated. Ugh... Whatever, make what you will out of this. Personally I don't give much thought to metacritic scores but I know Bethesda does so that's why I would love to see it bomb over there. But considering that FNV's DLC's aren't all that much better...
And here's Skyrim's DLC scores.
Dragonborn
Xbox critic 82
Xbox user 8.1
PC critic 83
PC user 7.8
PS3 critic 82
PS3 user 7.4
Dawnguard
Xbox critic 73
Xbox user 7.1
PC critic 66
PC user 6.8
PS3 critic 79
PS3 user 7.0
Hearthfire
Xbox critic 54
Xbox user 5.8
PC critic 65
PC user 6.2
PS3 critic 69
PS3 user 6.3
Xbox critic 63
Xbox user 7.5
PC critic 57
PC user 6.8
PS3 critic 62
PS3 user 6.8
Honest Hearts
Xbox critic 64
Xbox user 7.0
PC critic 66
PC user 6.7
PS3 critic 66
PS3 user 6.4
Dead Money
Xbox critic 70
Xbox user 6.3
PC critic 70
PC user 6.2
PS3 critic 68
PS3 user 6.5
Gun Runners Arsenal
Xbox critic 60
Xbox user 6.7
PC critic N/A
PC user 6.1
PS3 critic N/A
PS3 user 5.3
Old World Blues
Xbox critic 83
Xbox user 8.2
PC critic 82
PC user 7.2
PS3 critic 81
PS3 user 7.5
I hate Old World Blues. Repetitive. Bullet-sponges. Fetch quest galore. Forced humour. Irritating design. And it ends up being the highest rated. Ugh... Whatever, make what you will out of this. Personally I don't give much thought to metacritic scores but I know Bethesda does so that's why I would love to see it bomb over there. But considering that FNV's DLC's aren't all that much better...
And here's Skyrim's DLC scores.
Dragonborn
Xbox critic 82
Xbox user 8.1
PC critic 83
PC user 7.8
PS3 critic 82
PS3 user 7.4
Dawnguard
Xbox critic 73
Xbox user 7.1
PC critic 66
PC user 6.8
PS3 critic 79
PS3 user 7.0
Hearthfire
Xbox critic 54
Xbox user 5.8
PC critic 65
PC user 6.2
PS3 critic 69
PS3 user 6.3
Ragemage
Wept for Zion
*sniff* *sniff* You smell that Mr. Fish? Do you? Smells like Bethesda bias to me from all these reviewers.
I honestly love all the New Vegas DLCs. I can't exactly do Old World Blues every playthrough because of how long it is and the jokes get a little old after the 3rd or 4th time through, but I still enjoy it. I honestly never had a problem with bullet sponges in OWB but then again I usually just play on Normal with Hardcore turned on. At the very least all of NV's DLCs deserve 90s, not fucking 60s, what the hell? Gotta love Bethestards. Gotta ride Toddy's dick until the end of time. So glad I'm not a part of that mindset anymore. Though I'll gladly ride Obsidian's dick any day of the week.
Also as a side note, your icon literally made me gasp in horror the first time I saw it. I wasn't expecting... that.
Irwin John Finster
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
Go look at the content of the *FREE* DLC that CD Projekt Red put out on both Steam and GOG for Witcher 3 and then tell me the content of Automatron is worth $10.
People are comparing it to RobCo Certified mod for New Vegas, which is funny because if it is really so similar then they're just taking mods and charging for them. Looks like paid mods really are a thing.
People are comparing it to RobCo Certified mod for New Vegas, which is funny because if it is really so similar then they're just taking mods and charging for them. Looks like paid mods really are a thing.
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Just watched the ending videos of Automatron.
I get the feeling that the writer/designer had had a look at Old World Blues (and probably Fallout 3's Superhuman Gambit) and decided to up the 50s Science!/Robot wackiness to 11.
I can't say it is the designer's own fault as Bethesda itself already started this nonsense in Fallout 3.
Bethesda rather wasted the budget and DLC 'room' for an in general pointless expansion. At best this should have been a little freebie thrown in for the customers.
The fact that people in general don't even question Bethesda's decision to release this and was money on the Season pass tells a lot about them.
Next month (I think) they will get the Fallout Sims Expansion, and the month after that Far Harbor which also brings not truly new to Fallout 4. Just more of the same.
I get the feeling that the writer/designer had had a look at Old World Blues (and probably Fallout 3's Superhuman Gambit) and decided to up the 50s Science!/Robot wackiness to 11.
I can't say it is the designer's own fault as Bethesda itself already started this nonsense in Fallout 3.
Bethesda rather wasted the budget and DLC 'room' for an in general pointless expansion. At best this should have been a little freebie thrown in for the customers.
The fact that people in general don't even question Bethesda's decision to release this and was money on the Season pass tells a lot about them.
Next month (I think) they will get the Fallout Sims Expansion, and the month after that Far Harbor which also brings not truly new to Fallout 4. Just more of the same.
raynor009
Yeehaw!?!
I've done it in 2 hours or less. And btw? Wasn't the Mechanist in F3 a guy and not a girl ? LOL
Although.. I actually do enjoy building my own robots (please don't kill me)
Radiosity
Writiosity
Yeah, it was a guy in 3. Being a girl in 4 actually plays nicely into a parody I'm writing, so that works for me.
Irwin John Finster
Sonny, I Watched the Vault Bein' Built!
The consensus from even the really big fans of Fallout 4 appears to be that the crafting aspect of Automatron is great, but the other content (quest, writing, story) is as abysmal as the rest of the game and is too short to justify the price.
I'm not surprised people are enjoying the crafting element because Bethesda actually did a really amazing job with it. Before, we had all these Bethesda games where you could pick up a coffee cup or a fork off a table, and now we actually have reasons to do that. So it's a great improvement to the series. I'm always in favor of more content in a game.
That's really the overarching theme of Fallout 4 - massive focus on some good gameplay improvements while complete dumbing down of anything related to role-playing, which is where my gripes are with the game.
NotAcasul
meanie
Okay, so the DLC is actually pretty good.
Bite me, it's fun. It's got multiple endings, solid writing, believable-ness, and good storytelling.
It's still really short though.
Bite me, it's fun. It's got multiple endings, solid writing, believable-ness, and good storytelling.
It's still really short though.
NotAcasul
meanie
So you didn't actually play it? You sort of need to do that to critique a game.
I don't actually own Fallout 4. I gave it a try but I was so disgusted by it after a couple of weeks that I never wanted to play it again.
Perhaps I am not in a position to judge the DLC but I still think its storyline is cack.
Ragemage
Wept for Zion
*bites hard* Bad kitty.
It didn't have good story telling at all. First of all it just breaks more canon by officially establishing that every robot in the game now has built in AI for no reason, except now it's disguised by a very thinly veiled "Personality switch". Bullshit. None of the jokes in it are funny. ADA may as well have been a synth given how much personality she has. I could keep going.
I also wouldn't count killing someone vs not killing someone multiple endings. At all. You want multiple endings? Go play Fallout New Vegas and finish any of their DLCs. Actually, fuck me, I just realized, New Vegas's DLCS HAVE MORE ENDINGS THAN FALLOUT 4. HOW IS THAT EVEN POSSIBLE?
Spacemunkey
Vault Senior Citizen
Youtube exists so we don't have to play this turd.
Mr Fish
Slippy sloppy, The
C'mon you guiz, vore is inappropriate for this forum.
AgentBJ09
Vault Dweller
It was a dude back then, and the reason for that? The Mechanist is a comic book character, just like Grognak and The Silver Shroud.
Not with this DLC, because most of it is "Go here, find/destroy this", as I saw with the two hour walkthrough I posted on another thread here. (Here it is again, just in case.)
If we were talking about Dead Money, The Pitt, and DLCs like that, where survival is a theme and your choices matter in the narrative, the loss of direct input would matter. Here? At best you can slay The Mechanist or spare her, then go on radiant quests to wipe out more RoboBrains.