Fallout 4 coming out on November 10, free mobile spin-off out now

I dotty know that just because Prydwen ip sounds a bit like Pride that the Lyons BoS is coming. It wouldn't make any sense since this game takes place in 2277
 
I sure hope so.

Unrelated, but who on here is playing Fallout Shelter? It seems like every time I quite to main menu and leave for a few hours the game keeps going.
 
I'm thinking it will be the Midwest BoS myself.
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But Beth said they consider Tactics to be non-canon and pretend it doesn't exist.
(it's more lore-friendly than F3 but whatever)
 
Crni Vuk said:
Indeed! You are again correct, you are pretty smart. Because as we all know there is no user here which is actually capable of seperating Fallout from the basic game/story mechanics and critizing it merely as a Role Playing Game instead of a Fallout Game. In other words, no one here is capable of forming objective opinions! Absolutely. No. One!

I thought you knew this community? From the way you talk it sure sounds like it. Because at least I can remember that there have been enough cases where people discussed for example Fallout 3 as Role Playing Game like Fallout 1 and 2 never existed and coming to the conclussion that Fallout 3 is (in their opinion, mine too by the way) a "bad", at best a very very mediocre role playing game. Because there are many many other games out there that you can use as standart, like Plansecape Torment if you want so. Hell even Morrowind, if it has to be a Bethesda title. Even if it would have been released as Elder Scrolls with Gunz instead of Fallout 3. Seriously the hilarously bad dialogues, quest design and nonsensical world (little lamplight ...) don't magically improve just because you give the game a different name.

I am not attacking you, just saying, we have been over this countless of times ... but yeah, it MUST be the fault of this community ... because we simply don't get it.
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Well - what can you expect? You are the ghoul that's seen it all and I'm just yet another guy jumping in here after a long hibernatus. Sorry to dissapoint and retread old ground if that's the case.

But let's put it like this. I'm not going to join you in bashing Fallout 4 for being a mediocre Fallout game. For me that ship has long sailed, perhaps it has for you as well. But now that I know that Todd H. and Emil P. are running the show I might join you in bashing it for being a mediocre post-apocalyptic game, if that indeed turns out to be the case.

But I agree that Fallout 3 was a horrible game. Not just a bad Fallout game, or a bad post apocalyptic game. It was a bad game with lazy writing. Period. And now learning that the same leadership is still in charge my expectations for Fallout 4 have gone from low to ground zero levels. Pardon the pun.
 
I mean, sure it was a bad game from a story and dialogueerspective, but it was certainly an EXTREMELY fun game.

I think the best game we can hope for is to Fo3 what Skyrim was to Oblivion. Until a spinoff gets made.
 
Who says this is even the same Dogmeat? I mean, Dogmeat from Fallout 3 is not the same as Dogmeat from Fallout 1, and neither is this version of Dogmeat. The name is just fanservice.
 
Tactics is considered semi-canon. I.E there's a Brotherhood off shoot there and some of the end game stuff, but that's it. As Rothchild says in FO3 "Went rouge. Long story". The Brotherhood is already coming back and judging by the brief snippet in the trailer, it's Lyon's Brotherhood.

Edit: X12 beat me to the punch lol
 
Walpknut said:
It's obviously not the same dogmeat. The problem is that Bethesda seems to think that they have to crowbar in a dog called Dogmeat in every game just because he existed in the first Fallout.
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Um, ok, Fallout 2 was NOT made by Bethesda. So, that doesnt count. Fallout 3 and Fallout 4 are the only 2 games that have Dogmeat in it (though, when I watched the gameplay trailer it said simply "Dog").

So, 2 games does not seem like a stretch.
 
Dogmeat in FO2 is only available in a non canon random encounter, and FO2 had the Cyberdogs which were much better options as companions, Dogmeat was never this super important focus of the game. Hell he canonicaly died in FO1.....

Also they recently revealed that the dog is indeed called Dogmeat.
 
With voiced player character does that mean Modders could say, make a voiced Dog mod? A real Dogmeat, like from A Boy and his dog. I think the reason for the dogs always being called that is a reference to ABahD more so then Fallout per se, but it serves both purposes.
 
Ugh, I hate free mobile games since smartphones appeared because they're filled with advertisement.:yuck:
 
Walpknut said:
Dogmeat in FO2 is only available in a non canon random encounter, and FO2 had the Cyberdogs which were much better options as companions, Dogmeat was never this super important focus of the game. Hell he canonicaly died in FO1.....

Also they recently revealed that the dog is indeed called Dogmeat.
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I really dont see the difference between Dogmeat from Fallout 3 and Rex from Fallout New Vegas from a gameplay perspective (besides the item finder ability, which F4 Dogmeat could have easily gotten if Companion Abilities return)

My point is it sounds rather ridiculous to complain about something so minor. Maybe you would be able to turn Dogmeat into a cyberdog.
 
Rex is pretty different, he even has a quest related to him. Also he is not just a generic dog like Dogmeat is.
The problem here is laziness on Bethesda's part and their poor understanding of lore. They just cling to some rather generic things to put in every Fallout game, like the BOS, Enclave and Dogmeat and they just sem to transplant them without reason or cause. Why can't they just make up new factions or companions? Codworth is actually a more interesting character there, but they focused on the Dog, people seem to think there can't be a Fallout game without Dogmeat (Fo3 fans mostly) and they even made him immortal. It's just kind of an additional gripe I have on top of what they did to the core systems.

It's like with one of those Comic book continuations of tv shows, they just love quoting the show ad nauseum just to show how much like the show they are.... even when the original show just came up with things for others to quote and didn't just quote itself all the time and that's what made it good in the first place.
 
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If they really need to refer to "A Boy and His Dog" again, they should just call the dog "Blood" or "Vic". Hell, call him "Max", or "Wez", or "Immortan Joe" because it actually is FUCKING IMMORTAL.
 
Hardboiled Android said:
I think the best game we can hope for is to Fo3 what Skyrim was to Oblivion. Until a spinoff gets made.
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I think Skyrim was pretty unique in many ways. It's the only bethesda game I can remember in which you truly played someone special. You were just not a random guy who happend upon adventure and fame and fortune, but you were actually the "legendary dragonborn" and destined to great things.

In Fallout 3 you are... well... the "choosen one" who has to die at the end... because well, you are the choosen one. Great.

In any case I think the Skyrim style fitted Bethesda as a developer much better. They are horrible at doing "subtle" so why not let them do dragons, the dragonborn, the end of the world etc. At least I think they had better success with it than many other things they've tried.

With Fallout 4 they are yet again back in the place that a great story has to happen to someone who is essentially no one. Can they pull it off this time? Their track records isn't great.
 
Actually, they consider it semi-canon, not non-canon
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Really? I'm sure they said that Tactics is non-canon before F3 was out. But it's cool if we can expect some references to FT, I guess.

At least they could make the BoS in F4 less white knight and more "grayscale" like in FT - they do bad things, but they do good things and it's not easy to judge them. Fallout Tactics got it right, waaay better than Beth and it's not even a damn RPG, it's a tactical game. ffs, bethesda.
 
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Hassknecht said:
If they really need to refer to "A Boy and His Dog" again, they should just call the dog "Blood" or "Vic". Hell, call him "Max", or "Wez", or "Immortan Joe" because it actually is FUCKING IMMORTAL.
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You know, I was thinking about editing my post to call him Blood, apropos did you read the graphic novel Vic and Blood ?
 
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