I don't think Bethesda fanboys coming here is a bad thing regardless of what they say or think. A difference of opinion shouldn't be grounds for not having discussions. Spewing out the same tired phrases over and over again is just as easily shot down now as it was back when Fallout 3 came out. No one can dispute that Bethesda is bad at writing when compared to some other developers. Maybe they have improved though. They seem to know their strengths. No one is crying for isometric turn based gameplay anymore. This community has become more tolerant towards those who favor the new Fallout. Many NMA users loved New Vegas, myself included, but it should be said the new games still don't compare to the original 2. Neither did Wasteland 2 for that matter, but I don't think it really intended to.