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So I've confirmed that we're dealing with the Midwestern BoS.
Wow, good eyes man, or synthetic... Hopefully it's relatively true to their lore and not just the "wonderful, award winning" writers idea of what would make the MW BoS "cool"


I've got (cautious) optimism for it- I doubt they'll be using ICE vehicles and have furry, psychic deathclaws among their initiates.

I've always liked the concept of a BoS chapter that went rogue- it helps explain why, prior to Van Buren, the council was never able to decide in favor of expansion- once the MBoS left, the tie would be broken heavily in favour of remaining small and isolated, with the few dissenters only being able to strike out on their own (Like Marcus' Jacob). By the time Van Buren rolls around, and having remained out of helping with not one, but two, potential genocides... the expansionist party wins support finally at the top level and we have the NCR/BoS war and Lyon's BoS in the Capital Wasteland.

If there's one thing that bugs me about the BoS in the original Fallout is that they appear to be too united. It's pretty clear they're a foil to the Master's Super Mutants and the whole 'War Never Changes' theme and the Master's argument that humanity will always fight itself until no one is left has a point when you look at the Wasteland.

Not so much when the Brotherhood, though, has apparently spent over a century content to do nothing as their senile elders couldn't come to an agreement on what their purpose is.

Hopefully they'll be a lot darker than we've seen previously. Let's see why it's a good thing the Brotherhood remained powerless and unable to act. Let's see a BoS that isn't afraid to act- the oppposite. If the original was like Hamlet, and overthought things... let's see the MBoS be Laertes who doesn't think enough. Xenophobic to non-humans, forced drafting of human initiates of territory they lay claim to, and restricting the rights and access to technologies to keep non-BoS humans as second class citizens.

*sigh* Beth is probably just using them because they'll be a source for Power Armour- and won't tarnish that 'knight in shining armour' that plagues the BoS in any of the non Black Isle/Obsidian games :cry:
 
So I've confirmed that we're dealing with the Midwestern BoS.

http://imgur.com/a/m21KG

I think Bethesda has an internal checklist. Any Fallout game must contain:

a) A vault
b) war never changes
c) someone from a vault
d) a death claw
e) dogmeat
f) radiation
g) BoS
h) a radscorpion
i) nuka-cola
j) bottle caps
k) mole rats

As long as they cram those things in there it's a Fallout game and they call it job done. Then they make long E3 presentations where they pretend to care about an original story and quality writing. :ugly:

I would glow inside if they made a nod to Fallout: New Vegas with a sunset sarsaparilla bottle or two. After all, there's hipsters in Boston. :razz:
 
I was pumped till I saw E3.

Yeah, I was to. The horrible pandering that Bethesda is doing boggles my mind. :crazy: It clear that they want the more younger, Transformer and Call of Duty audience with this game as those games and movies make a shit tom of money(even though the only reason why they make so much money is because they pander to children.) Its pretty clear to me after E3 that Bethesda, much like many other big name video game companies like EA, have no respect for their audience and are going to treat them with kid gloves.
 
Hopefully the BoS is not all Enclave cartoonish evil. Going around burning down settlements and killing everyone/everything they see. I want black and white factions. No one is super good or ridiculously evil.
 
Hey guys, I know the reaction is gonna be "Well DUH!" but.... holy shit does that Fallout Shelter game suck balls....
 
Yup. A co-worker of mine recently figured out I enjoyed the originals and has decided to give me daily updates about the status of his "vault." FO on ipad, I said - that's just crazy. Needless to say it's crashed each time about five minutes into his demonstrations - for three days straight now. Guess we'll see how tomorrow goes.
It's so weak sauce I'm now embarrassed to be a fan.

On another note, can anyone tell me whatever ended up happening with project v13?
 
Y Needless to say it's crashed each time about five minutes into his demonstrations - for three days straight now.

I imagine that this is a look into the near future with Fallout 4. Remember what a bugged mess Skyrim was on launch? But instead of fixing the problem and being smart and delaying the game for a couple months they are going to release a broken game on launch! Heaven forbid that they miss out on the Holiday season! :V
 
Y Needless to say it's crashed each time about five minutes into his demonstrations - for three days straight now.

I imagine that this is a look into the near future with Fallout 4. Remember what a bugged mess Skyrim was on launch? But instead of fixing the problem and being smart and delaying the game for a couple months they are going to release a broken game on launch! Heaven forbid that they miss out on the Holiday season! :V
Hell, you remember Skyrim on PS3, they really fucked that one up. And it's really saying something that people were saying Skyrim was the most stable Bethesda release... Hopefully they now know their shit.
 
Y Needless to say it's crashed each time about five minutes into his demonstrations - for three days straight now.

I imagine that this is a look into the near future with Fallout 4. Remember what a bugged mess Skyrim was on launch? But instead of fixing the problem and being smart and delaying the game for a couple months they are going to release a broken game on launch! Heaven forbid that they miss out on the Holiday season! :V
Hell, you remember Skyrim on PS3, they really fucked that one up. And it's really saying something that people were saying Skyrim was the most stable Bethesda release... Hopefully they now know their shit.

Holy Hell! That was a cluster fuck! Also remember ESO? Holy crap was that a broken mess! :crazy:
 
Midwestern BoS? Didn't these guys got killed or severely handicapped by the Legion or locals? Not sure when this happened but I think it already did by the time of 200 years after the war.

Anyway, calling it, Midwestern BoS x Lyon's Brotherhood, one is backed by the Institute who are actually the Enclave under a new president, this time an android. The plan is to waste both sides while they are fighting over androids rights ad after that poison the water with a virus.
 
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