Fallout 4 gameplay videos leaked, Bethesda starts taking them down

whirlingdervish said:
And yet nobody said they would enjoy it for months.
Would you pay 60 dollars for months of being beaten with a stick?

If not, why not? You're getting months of experience with that "product".
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"No way I'm paying the full sixty bucks for a fleeting, shallow experience that's gonna last me several months at the most."

Derp.
 
At this point I'm just trying to understand what the central part of his point is supposed to be..

Is it the "months" part?
Is harping on the relative and unqualified quantity important for some reason?

To me "months" is a pretty small quantity and it doesn't carry any real weight as a point, compared to something like quality or enjoyability.
Any game that I only played for a few months would be considered a fleeting experience.

Every game that I love playing I have literally played for YEARS.

I still play Fallout and Quake, and I didn't pay 60 dollars for either one back in the late 90s.
 
whirlingdervish said:
At this point I'm just trying to understand what the central part of his point is supposed to be..

Is it the "months" part?
Is harping on the relative and unqualified quantity important for some reason?

To me "months" is a pretty small quantity and it doesn't carry any real weight as a point, compared to something like quality or enjoyability.
Any game that I only played for a few months would be considered a fleeting experience.

Every game that I love playing I have literally played for YEARS.

I still play Fallout and Quake, and I didn't pay 60 dollars for either one back in the late 90s.
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You're desperately trying to not understand here and tons of games cost anywhere from 40-100 dollars back then. If you get months of play and enjoyment (and if you dislike it why are you playing it for months?) out of it, $60 is nothing. For fucks sake if I go to the movies and get popcorn and soda with my wife it's $30+ for a 1.5 hour experience. Or I can wait till it's on blu ray, pay 20 and watch it as many times as I want. But your comparisons are terrible and you know it. Games that have 6 hour campaigns can cost $60 and months of play isn't worth it for that? Makes no god damn sense.
 
Battlecross said:
You wouldn't pay 60 bucks for a game you play for months? That's some seriously insane gamer entitlement shit right there.
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No, I wouldn't.

My money, my business.

Also, not only am I cheap but I am extraordinarily patient as well. I don't feel the urge to rush out and buy things the moment they come out like some trained lap dog. I can wait a while until the price drops... I've got plenty to keep me occupied in the meantime.
 
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Bubba Zanetti said:
Battlecross said:
You wouldn't pay 60 bucks for a game you play for months? That's some seriously insane gamer entitlement shit right there.
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No, I wouldn't.

My money, my business.

Also, not only am I cheap but I am extraordinarily patient as well. I don't feel the urge to rush out and buy things the moment they come out like some trained lap dog. I can wait a while until the price drops... I've got plenty to keep me occupied in the meantime.
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You should probably have read more, it would've made your reply pointless.
 
Battlecross said:
whirlingdervish said:
At this point I'm just trying to understand what the central part of his point is supposed to be..

Is it the "months" part?
Is harping on the relative and unqualified quantity important for some reason?

To me "months" is a pretty small quantity and it doesn't carry any real weight as a point, compared to something like quality or enjoyability.
Any game that I only played for a few months would be considered a fleeting experience.

Every game that I love playing I have literally played for YEARS.

I still play Fallout and Quake, and I didn't pay 60 dollars for either one back in the late 90s.
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You're desperately trying to not understand here and tons of games cost anywhere from 40-100 dollars back then. If you get months of play and enjoyment (and if you dislike it why are you playing it for months?) out of it, $60 is nothing. For fucks sake if I go to the movies and get popcorn and soda with my wife it's $30+ for a 1.5 hour experience. Or I can wait till it's on blu ray, pay 20 and watch it as many times as I want. But your comparisons are terrible and you know it. Games that have 6 hour campaigns can cost $60 and months of play isn't worth it for that? Makes no god damn sense.
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You continue to ignore the fact that months of play is not the same thing as months of enjoyment.
Nobody said they'd be getting months of enjoyment from it, just that it would take them months to play it all.

If, for example, you thought that movie you mention sucked, would you pay 30+ dollars to go see it in the theater, or would you wait for netflix?
Would it matter to you if the movie was 1.5 hours long or 4 hours long at that point?

I, like many other people, don't pay top dollar for something if I think it will suck, and that is not entitlement by any stretch of the imagination.
 
Battlecross said:
whirlingdervish said:
At this point I'm just trying to understand what the central part of his point is supposed to be..

Is it the "months" part?
Is harping on the relative and unqualified quantity important for some reason?

To me "months" is a pretty small quantity and it doesn't carry any real weight as a point, compared to something like quality or enjoyability.
Any game that I only played for a few months would be considered a fleeting experience.

Every game that I love playing I have literally played for YEARS.

I still play Fallout and Quake, and I didn't pay 60 dollars for either one back in the late 90s.
Click to expand...

You're desperately trying to not understand here and tons of games cost anywhere from 40-100 dollars back then. If you get months of play and enjoyment (and if you dislike it why are you playing it for months?) out of it, $60 is nothing. For fucks sake if I go to the movies and get popcorn and soda with my wife it's $30+ for a 1.5 hour experience. Or I can wait till it's on blu ray, pay 20 and watch it as many times as I want. But your comparisons are terrible and you know it. Games that have 6 hour campaigns can cost $60 and months of play isn't worth it for that? Makes no god damn sense.
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whirlingdervish said:
Battlecross said:
whirlingdervish said:
At this point I'm just trying to understand what the central part of his point is supposed to be..

Is it the "months" part?
Is harping on the relative and unqualified quantity important for some reason?

To me "months" is a pretty small quantity and it doesn't carry any real weight as a point, compared to something like quality or enjoyability.
Any game that I only played for a few months would be considered a fleeting experience.

Every game that I love playing I have literally played for YEARS.

I still play Fallout and Quake, and I didn't pay 60 dollars for either one back in the late 90s.
Click to expand...

You're desperately trying to not understand here and tons of games cost anywhere from 40-100 dollars back then. If you get months of play and enjoyment (and if you dislike it why are you playing it for months?) out of it, $60 is nothing. For fucks sake if I go to the movies and get popcorn and soda with my wife it's $30+ for a 1.5 hour experience. Or I can wait till it's on blu ray, pay 20 and watch it as many times as I want. But your comparisons are terrible and you know it. Games that have 6 hour campaigns can cost $60 and months of play isn't worth it for that? Makes no god damn sense.
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You continue to ignore the fact that months of play is not the same thing as months of enjoyment.
Nobody said they'd be getting months of enjoyment from it, just that it would take them months to play it all.

If, for example, you thought that movie you mention sucked, would you pay 30+ dollars to go see it in the theater, or would you wait for netflix?
Would it matter to you if the movie was 1.5 hours long or 4 hours long at that point?

I, like many other people, don't pay top dollar for something if I think it will suck, and that is not entitlement by any stretch of the imagination.
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I even said it. Why would you play something for months that you don't enjoy? That makes the player a fool or a glutton for punishment and it is illogical.

No one has at any point forced you to buy ANYTHING yet the entire argument you're making relies on that being the case. Don't buy it. No one gives a shit. Buy it when it's cheap. Again no one cares.
 
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Also, I don't spend every waking hour playing games... I tend to stretch these things out, especially the big open world games.

Oblivion, Fallout 3, and Skyrim generally last me a few months or so, since you can finish everything in one playthru and once you've explored the entire map you've pretty much seen all there is to see.

Fallout 4 will be much of the same, based on Beth's track record and everything we've seen so far.

Meanwhile, Fallout 1 and New Vegas have lasted me years.
 
Bubba Zanetti said:
Also, I don't spend every waking hour playing games... I tend to stretch these things out, especially the big open world games.

Oblivion, Fallout 3, and Skyrim generally last me a few months or so, since you can finish everything in one playthru and once you've explored the entire map you've pretty much seen all there is to see.

Fallout 4 will be much of the same, based on Beth's track record and everything we've seen so far.

Meanwhile, Fallout 1 and New Vegas have lasted me years.
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That's nice, then don't buy it. But don't tell me you're going to buy a new Triple A game and have it give you months of play and that isn't worth $60.
 
Battlecross said:
You wouldn't pay 60 bucks for a game you play for months? That's some seriously insane gamer entitlement shit right there.
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I don't really get this argument. I mean, if I really wanted to I could afford to pay $60 for Fallout 4, sure. I could also wait ~18 months and buy the complete edition for ~$40 or wait ~24 months and get it for ~$25. I have enough games to play in the meantime that I'm not really losing out on much aside from "participating in the games culture zeitgeist" (something I care very little about), so it's just a rational decision to hold off from where I sit.

I mean, I could pay $10 for a movie ticket, or I could get one for $5 during the Sunday morning matinee... It's not that I can't afford a $10 movie ticket, it's that I see no reason to pay $10 when I could just as easily get it for half the price.
 
That's nice, then don't buy it. But don't tell me you're going to buy a new Triple A game and have it give you months of play and that isn't worth $60.[/QUOTE]


Yo Mr. WhiteKnight Morality Guy,
I won't play it for months IF I even bother to play it.
It's NOT worth $60.00 not even $30.00 you're totally delusional IF you actually believe it is.
Oh, I already downloaded it and can play it for FREE.......... U mad??

You sound as stupid as that FuckPNutz kid on here.
 
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