Fallout 4 "The Wanderer" trailer

Discussion in 'NMA News and Information' started by 13pm, Oct 15, 2015.

  1. Vault21

    Vault21 Banned

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    Oct 13, 2015
    Character motivations and reactions that make the difference between an element in a larger world and story, to being the person that the world revolves around, is "looking" for something to bitch about? That's just noticing the difference between good versus poor quality world building. In a proper RPG, you should be an insignificant drop in a vast ocean, and eventually your own motions compound into a wave. With what we know about Bethesda, Skyrim, and the trailers featuring Mr. Badass Sole Survivor, the character is shaping up to be an all-important Mary Sue for the player's power fantasy. Believe it or not, history and little actions taken can give these things away. Who else but an all important demigod would confront a pack of super mutants, without armor or backup (a dog isn't backup), or without weapons to appropriately take them on? Actions have weight.
     
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  2. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    We are just following Fallout related news, you know by virtue of this being a FALLOUT centric forum and all...
     
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  3. CRBASF23

    CRBASF23 First time out of the vault

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    Sep 2, 2015
    And that's not it, they even made all those options match the color coded buttons of the xbox controller:

    So people won't need to even understand the options they're choosing, they only thing they need to know is that green A is for good response, red B is for bad responses, blue X is for neutral, and yello Y is for questions.
     

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  4. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    "That thing on your wrist - it's a convenience. It tells you where to go, what to do, dulls your brain. It may have helped you find the Sierra Madre broadcast, but it's just as much a crutch today as it was in the Old World."

    Father Elijah was right, man....
     
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  5. Zerginfestor

    Zerginfestor dear god, the scrapping

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    Apr 18, 2015
    SO basically, instead of defending the RPG aspects of Fallout (and what made it famous) with rational points and breaking down sent media by Bethesda, critique it, and keep a cool-head, we should do what a fascist basically focuses: Don't talk about it and pretend it doesn't exist, and just act like they did a great job. Obsidian fucked up on some parts, and even Fallout 2 was a swing-and-a-miss for some, what gives Bethesda suddenly the right of not taking any criticism? Get the fuck over yourself.

    I can apply your thinking on just about any subject, and I'd get the same, HUMAN, response:

    we criticize it because we love Fallout. A fan who doesn't pinpoint issues or speak up in feedback isn't a fan at all, but rather a sheep who just nods their head and follows a herd. Fans who really do love their subject will always send in feedback and critique, true fans would, at least.

    Trailers are usually there to represent a subject that a company is trying to sell/boost hype and show a representative of what to expect (Spoiler: This is also how people get massively disappointed, typical).
     
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  6. helios1

    helios1 It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Mar 10, 2014
    I'm talking about the guy who was bitching about the live action trailer. Its just a trailer thats not meant to be taken 100% seriously and people are somehow offended by it cause "its trying to be cool"
     
  7. helios1

    helios1 It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Mar 10, 2014
    Again I'm not saying you're wrong to criticize the game. All I'm saying is sometimes it goes overboard and starts being irrational. You are overreacting cause I didn't say Bethesda is my lord and savior like some fanboys do.
     
  8. Askorti

    Askorti HATE NEWSPAPERS

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    Jun 30, 2015
    Interpretation doesn't seem to be your strong suit. By making a trailer with "a guy looking cool" Bethesda sends a message, it shows their priorities. For Bethesda "the rule of cool" is the highest tenet, the ultimate law of their very "creative" process. To them "cool" is what matters and it shows. That's why people pick on the trailer, because it reinforces what we already know about what Bethesda wants to do and it's something people around here don't like much. And since we live in a free world, we have the right to voice our points of view.
     
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  9. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    Sure, certain doctors might call a lobotomisation a cure. But I am not sure if the patient would agree here as well.

    *replace doctor with Bethesda and patient with Fallout.
     
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  10. Walpknut

    Walpknut This ghoul has seen it all

    Dec 30, 2010
    I wouldn't have a problem with a trailer that is just "guy looking cool" if we even knew anything at all about the setting or if Bethesda had even tried and showcase their quests or writting for us to know what is exactly the premise of the game. THis combined with Todd Howard's statement that what made Fallout special was to kill things to 50's music sends a very clear message of what their priorities are with this series they didn't even create.
     
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  11. helios1

    helios1 It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Mar 10, 2014
    I don't really see anything wrong with a trailer making things look cool. Fallout New Vegas' trailer had plenty of action, explosions, guns, and an "epic moment" at the end with the explosion and slow-mo walking. I thought this trailer was cool for what it was. Wasn't supposed to be some super serious in depth look at the game.

    I'm assuming they didn't show us much story at all cause they want to keep it a surprise until the game, which is fine. Honestly not expecting much in terms of story. We all know how much Bethesda sucks at writing.
     
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  12. Crni Vuk

    Crni Vuk M4A3 Oldfag oTO Orderite

    Nov 25, 2008
    What you seem to forget is the difference between serious criticism and irony/making-fun-of something.

    Do you think that everyone here with his snippy comments is always 100% serious? We are not going to cut our wrists about Fallout 4 or Bethesda any time soon you know. Some of us are long time Fallout fans and ALSO long time NMA posters/readers. We just love to make fun about Fallout 3 and 4, particularly for the stupid stuff it contains. If someone can't deal with that. Well there is the door.

    I mean hey! You like the trailer, we dig that! Awesome! Good for you! I don't want to take ANY fun away from you while jerking off to it in some dark corner of the internet. However, for some of us it is just yet another action packed featureless prerendered footage of stuff we have seen probably a thousand times by now. What about the other stuff? Something substantial for a change? Like snipets of the writing, dialog, a few bones of information about the factions, I mean ARE there even factions? For christs sake there are RPGs out there that make trailers dedicated to DIALOG!

    No one's asking for a spoiler about the complete game here. But seirously ... at least they could remind us why this is also called an RPG, at leats once in a while.

    Sorry if that was kinda blunt.
     
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  13. LordAshur

    LordAshur Banned

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    Jul 18, 2015
    Being a Bethesda shill would be actively ignoring the things that are bitch and moan-worty.
    Also, I'm not quite sure whether you understand the meaning of live action.
     
  14. Zerginfestor

    Zerginfestor dear god, the scrapping

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    Apr 18, 2015
    Mostly because Obsidian also showed a Factions Trailer along with the gameplay trailer, which the gameplay trailer even portrayed the different factions in-game as well along with location, location and location. Action wasn't the only thing the portrayed there.
     
  15. helios1

    helios1 It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Mar 10, 2014
    It's live action. It just has a bunch of CG shit thrown in there. I'm not a fucking idiot but thanks for the link I guess?
     
  16. TransgenderVaultDeweller

    TransgenderVaultDeweller "Fallout 4 adds to the lore"

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    Aug 14, 2015
    A bit off topic, What did he really mean by that? I get that it prevents cunning/creativity. Does Father Elijah more of a harden techno fanatic than the chapter in the Mojave waste? As in wouldn't he give it more praise than it's con? I don't know, I think i'm looking too into it. It's not that big of an issue. I'm just trying to collect others thoughts on this.
     
  17. LordAshur

    LordAshur Banned

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    Jul 18, 2015
     
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  18. frajaq

    frajaq It Wandered In From the Wastes

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    Jul 23, 2015
    You are, it was just a way of the developers to poke fun at how the actual players depend so much on it. Elijah was a genius so he can say stuff like that.
     
  19. gordog_frohman

    gordog_frohman namhofr_godrog

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    Mar 4, 2015
    Why does Boston look like the California desert?
     
  20. Willy Rogers

    Willy Rogers Nothing better to do.

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    Jun 15, 2015
    Bethesda: Because Fallout 1, 2, and New Vegas took place in a desert and people loved those, therefore if we set Fallout 3 and 4 in a desert even though the geography makes no goddamn sense it'll be popular right? Right?! PLEASE LOVE US!!!